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GiRTh 08-05-2013 07:06 PM

Mourinho's teams dont usually win one trophy, they win doubles and trebles. He's the best in the world but maybe not suitable for Man U.

Moyes is a good safe bet .

Ryan57 08-05-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 5982287)
Mourinho's teams dont usually win one trophy, they win doubles and trebles. He's the best in the world but maybe not suitable for Man U.

Moyes is a good safe bet .

Wouldn't say safe. Well, safe in terms of personality but toally unproven at the top and in Europe.

Brother Leon 08-05-2013 07:31 PM

Well it's about to be confirmed tomorrow. Time to welcome him to the United family. If he can bring Felliani in then we take a huge step towards European victory.

Alf 08-05-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 5982263)
We have a lot of dead wood in our midfield, to be fair. Our midfield needs real work.
And Mourinho's style of play is fine. He has this reputation for being defensive but he's shown he can play fantastic football. Real broke a La Liga record scoring 121 goals last season. He plays better football than Moyes has done so far in his career.

And rightly so his teams should have played better football than Moyes teams, he's managed teams with the best resources available to him, Chelsea, Inter Milan and Real Madrid all with limitless amounts of cash to buy the best players in the World, Moyes hasn't had that opportunity (yet) to prove himself in the elite games, I think he'll take to it like a duck to water, he's a proven top manager in the premier league, he qualified Everton for the Champions league, got them to an FA cup final, and a Semi Final his final league positions are
7th
17th (transition time)
4th (and there's the transition)
11th (champ leauge and Europa league stretched our resources)
6th
5th
5th
8th
7th
7th
and it looks like 6th this season

Now that's not too bad with what he's had to work with at Everton , imagine what he'll do with what he has to work with at Manchester United, the sky's the limit

jackc1806 08-05-2013 07:34 PM

As a lot of people have said, Moyes is a big gamble. Completely inexperienced in regard to Europe and the title race, the only thing really going for him is his long stretch at Everton which is perhaps what the people upstairs want, someone who is there for the long haul unlike Mourinho who only really stays for a few years. Moyes has done well with his budget at Everton, but a major honour still eludes him after 11 years. When we brought in Sir Alex, he has already changed the landscape of Scottish football uprooting Celtic and Glasgow with Aberdeen. Can David Moyes walk into Man Utd and carry on from where Sir Alex left off? It's hard to tell, but as a United fan he isn't my first choice. Considering though I've only ever known Fergie as the boss, I don't really know who is my first choice.

Ryan57 08-05-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 5982374)
Well it's about to be confirmed tomorrow. Time to welcome him to the United family. If he can bring Felliani in then we take a huge step towards European victory.

Need a lot more than Fellaini lol. Don't fear we might play hoof ball to him?

Yes, he's had better players. But look at Martinez at Wigan. Great style of play with a bunch of shat players. Heard a lot of Everton fans after the cup exit mention they're not fans of Moyes' style of play.

He's done a good job at Everton. It's just, it's totally different at a higher level. Only UEFA Cup experience.

Agree, Jack. Except I have a first choice. Mourinho. Long been rumoured that he'd stay at United for longer than he has at other places. Even if he stays 3 seasons. If he brings success both domestically and in Europe I'd be chuffed.

Wouldn't be surprised if The Glazers are fans of Moyes as they'll never get trouble out of him. Have seen some deem him a yes man.

jackc1806 08-05-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 5982393)
Need a lot more than Fellaini lol. Don't fear we might play hoof ball to him?

Yes, he's had better players. But look at Martinez at Wigan. Great style of play with a bunch of shat players. Heard a lot of Everton fans after the cup exit mention they're not fans of Moyes' style of play.

He's done a good job at Everton. It's just, it's totally different at a higher level. Only UEFA Cup experience.

Agree, Jack. Except I have a first choice. Mourinho. Long been rumoured that he'd stay at United for longer than he has at other places. Even if he stays 3 seasons. If he brings success both domestically and in Europe I'd be chuffed.

Wouldn't be surprised if The Glazers are fans of Moyes as they'll never get trouble out of him. Have seen some deem him a yes man.

Mourinho would be a much better choice than Moyes. Not sure on Fellaini, there are much better options available.

Ryan57 08-05-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jackc1806 (Post 5982408)
Mourinho would be a much better choice than Moyes. Not sure on Fellaini, there are much better options available.

Miles better than Moyes. I fear about who we'd sign with Moyes in charge. Nobody will of heard of him abroad really. Whereas with Jose, tremendous pulling power.

Z 08-05-2013 07:51 PM

Sir Alex is a legend. Hailing from Aberdeen, I've a lot of admiration for the man though I'm not one of these people who blindly supports Manchester United because I support Aberdeen, I hate those kinds of people. The results he's produced over his career are nothing short of unbelievable and he should be remembered as the greatest football manager ever to exist in this country. Whoever replaces him is stepping into the world's largest shoes and I'm not sure anyone will be up to live up to the expectations being placed upon the role now that Fergie's stepping down.

Ryan57 08-05-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 5982422)
Sir Alex is a legend. Hailing from Aberdeen, I've a lot of admiration for the man though I'm not one of these people who blindly supports Manchester United because I support Aberdeen, I hate those kinds of people. The results he's produced over his career are nothing short of unbelievable and he should be remembered as the greatest football manager ever to exist in this country. Whoever replaces him is stepping into the world's largest shoes and I'm not sure anyone will be up to live up to the expectations being placed upon the role now that Fergie's stepping down.

Hard for anyone. But I don't think Mourinho would fear it due to his ego. Seemingly though, we're not even going for him SMH.

AnnieK 08-05-2013 07:53 PM

Looks like Rooney's on his way to Bayern now too so whoever comes needs to be able to make some good signings

Cherie 08-05-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 5982414)
Miles better than Moyes. I fear about who we'd sign with Moyes in charge. Nobody will of heard of him abroad really. Whereas with Jose, tremendous pulling power.

Jose is so tempermental though. Moyes might be okay, be interesting to see if he can win anything..lets face it whoever comes in won't get very long before they need to start showing results so...anyway it could be worse as least no one has mentioned 'Arry.

Ryan57 08-05-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 5982427)
Jose is so tempermental though. Moyes might be okay, be interesting to see if he can win anything..lets face it whoever comes in won't get very long before they need to start showing results so...anyway it could be worse as least no one has mentioned 'Arry.

But he's a fantastic manager above all. The type that, going into a tough European tie you'd feel confident in him as your manager. With Moyes, no such confidence.

'arry has had a better career than Moyes so far. Actually has European experience also. Not saying I want him though, xD.

Ryan57 08-05-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anniek76 (Post 5982426)
Looks like Rooney's on his way to Bayern now too so whoever comes needs to be able to make some good signings

Could just be newspaper BS. Although, there's bad blood between Rooney and Moyes.

Brother Leon 08-05-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 5982393)
Need a lot more than Fellaini lol. Don't fear we might play hoof ball to him?

Yes, he's had better players. But look at Martinez at Wigan. Great style of play with a bunch of shat players. Heard a lot of Everton fans after the cup exit mention they're not fans of Moyes' style of play.

He's done a good job at Everton. It's just, it's totally different at a higher level. Only UEFA Cup experience.

Agree, Jack. Except I have a first choice. Mourinho. Long been rumoured that he'd stay at United for longer than he has at other places. Even if he stays 3 seasons. If he brings success both domestically and in Europe I'd be chuffed.

Wouldn't be surprised if The Glazers are fans of Moyes as they'll never get trouble out of him. Have seen some deem him a yes man.

We don't need "alot more" than him though. If we get him We have a midfielder who will take no ****s and bully people. Would give Carrick's legs a break. Now a midfielder who can thread a killer ball to really relieve the pressure off Carrick and we are set imo.


As for the Glazers, I actually credit them. They could easily of gone for the big name to boost the brand, but they have trusted Fergie's word and have attempted to think long term. Highly doubt it's a case of wanting a yes man.

Drew. 08-05-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by anniek76 (Post 5982426)
Looks like Rooney's on his way to Bayern now too so whoever comes needs to be able to make some good signings

i can see this happening

jackc1806 08-05-2013 07:59 PM

If you look at our midfield, the standout performer is Carrick. Excellent passes, reads the game well always looking for the man in a good position. I've always admired Carrick and I'm delighted this season he has been highlighted as a much needed player in our team. Kagawa has showed glimpses but I'm convinced his future is out wide- he has hardly set the league alight down the middle. Cleverley is one to keep an eye on, next season he must start to show his worth otherwise he could end up being similar to Gibson. Scholes is gone, not getting games and I can't see him here next season. Giggs can't perform week in week out because of his age but still produces great displays. Jones isn't really one for going forward, will be an excellent CB. Anderson needs to go, 6 seasons and he really hasn't done a lot. We've really missed Fletch, but it's unlikely he'll play again. When you look at this, what does Fellaini add that is so outstanding? He isn't the type of world class player we need at the moment. The display against Chelsea shows how weak our midfield is without Carrick.

Cherie 08-05-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 5982433)
But he's a fantastic manager above all. The type that, going into a tough European tie you'd feel confident in him as your manager. With Moyes, no such confidence.

'arry has had a better career than Moyes so far. Actually has European experience also. Not saying I want him though, xD.

Don't get me wrong I would love Jose! At the very least I want him back in the PL.

Z 08-05-2013 08:00 PM

I think David Moyes is precisely the kind of manager they need. Fergie's choice to home grow talent rather than squander millions on buying existing talent is a wise one, because it's more stable than throwing money at men who will only be tempted away by better money. José Mourinho would not keep up that kind of work, but I think David Moyes would. European experience comes with time, Moyes is a professional, he'd be up to the task. I hope that Moyes gets it.

Alf 08-05-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 5982393)

Yes, he's had better players. But look at Martinez at Wigan. Great style of play with a bunch of shat players. Heard a lot of Everton fans after the cup exit mention they're not fans of Moyes' style of play.

He's done a good job at Everton. It's just, it's totally different at a higher level. Only UEFA Cup experience.

Alex Ferguson only had Cup winners cup experience before he came to Manchester United, Mourinho or anyone for that matter never had champions league experience until they managed in that competition, it's not that superior a competition it's still just a game of football.

AnnieK 08-05-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew. (Post 5982445)
i can see this happening

I think he will be gone..just a matter of what club. Don't think he fancies PSG so I think Bayern is where he'll end up...

Brother Leon 08-05-2013 08:02 PM

Should tell Bayern to give us Bastian or do one tbh.

Ryan57 08-05-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5982455)
Alex Ferguson only had Cup winners cup experience before he came to Manchester United, Mourinho or anyone for that matter never had champions league experience until they managed in that competition, it's not that superior a competition it's still just a game of football.

Fergie broke the stranglehold between Celtic and Rangers.

Imo, it's vastly superior. Where is a team as good as Bayern, Dortmund or Barcelona in our league to come up against? Dread to think what they'd do to us with Moyes.

AnnieK 08-05-2013 08:03 PM

Part of me hopes it's a complete shock tomorrow....I got a text before from a huge fan saying someone had said jurgen klopp is in the frame too...don't believe it but I would love to wake up to a surprise....:laugh:

Alf 08-05-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan57 (Post 5982414)
Miles better than Moyes. I fear about who we'd sign with Moyes in charge. Nobody will of heard of him abroad really. Whereas with Jose, tremendous pulling power.

I'm not playing for Manchester United because even though i'm involved in football, I've never heard of David Moyes.

Have a word with yourself


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