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GiRTh 08-03-2014 11:15 PM



LOL at this. Johnny Giles reckons Moyes should just get rid of RVP. I dont think he can even if he wants to. Ferguson could get rid of him cuz he had won so much but no trophy Moyes cant get rid of a genuine world class player who is capable of 30 goals a season and replace him with whom?

King Gizzard 08-03-2014 11:17 PM

He won't get 30 again though, and I reckon Cavani is obtainable if you're willing to spend a **** load, Falcao also

GiRTh 08-03-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 6746666)
He won't get 30 again though, and I reckon Cavani is obtainable if you're willing to spend a **** load, Falcao also

HE wont get 30 this season but I think you'll agree RVP is a genuine world class player. Do you think those players will come to United if they dont qualify for the Champions league with a manger who's never won anything and has taken the champions to a mid table position??

King Gizzard 08-03-2014 11:21 PM

If you pay them enough, Falcao went to Monaco with an average of about 3000 fans per home game and Ranieri in charge, Cavani went to PSG with Blanc in charge

GiRTh 08-03-2014 11:23 PM

I dont share your optimism. The bloke on the right - dont know his name - talks sense when he says Moyes doesnt seem to have any kind of plan in mind.

Brother Leon 08-03-2014 11:35 PM

Let's be real. RVP is gone. As is Kagawa,Hernandez and Nani. An absolute **** load is going to be spent just replacing that never mind "filling the huge holes" the squad has already. Moyes ain't getting sacked because Sir Alex and Sir Bobby genuinely think he needs time.

With Moyes in charge and the amount of investment he needs just to challenge United aren't sniffing the title again until around 2016ish. Just hope Liverpool don't either :laugh:


If RVP goes the worst thing the club can do Is sign Falcao or Cavani. Move Rooney up there and Welbeck/value signing backing him up. A proper number 10 in Mata can play where he needs to then. Falcao and Cavani will take up a lot of the budget and wont really work.

King Gizzard 08-03-2014 11:36 PM

Oh I don't have any optimism for Moyes either, just making the point I think United could get most players they wanted if they threw money at them, regardless of current manager and situation

Brother Leon 08-03-2014 11:43 PM

Yeah. They need to go for the Mercenaries or foreign players who may still value the name etc. Would want the big money to towards a midfielder and left back mostly.

Brother Leon 08-03-2014 11:45 PM

On a bright note. Record 600m deal with Nike seems confirmed. Glazers must be doing cartwheels. I'm surprised Woodward still managed to get that crazy a deal. Fair play to him.

King Gizzard 08-03-2014 11:49 PM

Shaw would be a good start, make a statement and beat the likes of Chelsea and United to him, regardless of who he supported as a kid. That's your LB for 10 years

GiRTh 08-03-2014 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 6746684)
Oh I don't have any optimism for Moyes either, just making the point I think United could get most players they wanted if they threw money at them, regardless of current manager and situation

I agree that if they offer 250 grand a week they'll get anyone but I dont think that will solve the problem and I dont think Moyes will be able to handle star names.

I think just about everyone is seeing now that Moyes is indeed out of his depth. He's now in a bit of a hole cuz if he sells players who have won trophy's and brings in more over priced squad players like Fellaini then Man Utd will quickly turn to mid table mediocrity.

King Gizzard 08-03-2014 11:53 PM

Yeah, when you're a club the size of United, you can't have 'projects', you need immediate success, the likes of Pep and Mourinho can deliver straight away

Well, I say that, but Pep's never really had to deal with a terrible squad in his career (neither has Mourinho to an extent but he's had to rebuild somewhat)

GiRTh 09-03-2014 12:04 AM

The United squad isnt terrible but there are a number of aging players and squad players luxuriating in the first team. I think Mourinho did wonders at Inter winning the Champions league. That wasnt a great squad at all but he got the best out of them. Moys cant take a number of years to get his kind of players in he needs to show that he can get the job done with the players he's got.

Brother Leon 09-03-2014 12:13 AM

DDG - Give him 500k a week for life.

Rafael
Jones (C)
Evans/Smalling
Shaw

CM
CM

Januzaj
Mata
Kagawa/Welbeck for tricky games to do "the job"

RVP
--

That would be my ideal realistic XI next season. Then you have the likes of Players starting now being squad players like Carrick,Fellaini and Welbeck,Nani,Young amongst other attacking threats.

Rooney will be there for RVP in reality though.

Wet Dream CM would be Kross and Gundoghan, but that isn't happening. I think Carvalho and someone else cheaper most likely. Bar RVP that XI could play for years too. It will take heavy spending, but if they are serious about bloody Moyes then the board better deliver with funds :laugh:

GiRTh 09-03-2014 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6746722)
DDD - Give him 500k a week for life.

Rafael
Jones (C)
Evans/Smalling
Shaw

CM
CM

Januzaj
Mata
Kagawa/Welbeck for tricky games to do "the job"

RVP
--

That would be my ideal realistic XI next season. Then you have the likes of Players starting now being squad players like Carrick,Fellaini and Welbeck,Nani,Young amongst other attacking threats.

Rooney will be there for RVP in reality though.

Wet Dream CM would be Kross and Gundoghan, but that isn't happening. I think Carvalho and someone else cheaper most likely. Bar RVP that XI could play for years too. It will take heavy spending, but if they are serious about bloody Moyes then the board better deliver with funds :laugh:

Thats a good team but Moyes has already made it clear he's not keen on Kagawa, Evans and Kagawa. I dread to think who he's gonna bring in to replace them.

Ryan57 09-03-2014 09:19 AM

The bald headed guy is right. Moyes had nothing whatsoever making him deserving of the job. No way should this team of players be at 7th for most of the season.

No way would I trust him with a reported £200 million.

You can have the best players in the world in your team, but if you're a crap manager, you're not going to do well.

GiRTh 10-03-2014 11:28 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...wood-Park.html

Moyes could be lining up Danny Ings to replace RVP. :joker:

And this is unfortunately what I fear he'll do; replace genuine world class players with average squad players :joker::joker::joker:

GiRTh 15-03-2014 12:30 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...dogs-liverpool

Moyes is at it again. Apparently, Liverpool are favourites tomorrow cuz they've benefited from being out of Europe. I personally think being out of Europe has nothing to do with it but at least he once again has his excuses ready. :joker:

Ryan57 15-03-2014 01:00 PM

They are probably favourites, and being out of Europe has helped them, though.

However,

Tomorrow is the day when Dave rises from the ashes to dent Liverpool's title hopes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhbfvobIIAEypO3.jpg

Jesus. 17-03-2014 10:15 AM

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Black Dagger 17-03-2014 10:17 AM

Save our dave <3.

AnnieK 17-03-2014 10:34 AM

Rumour has it he will be out if we don't beat Olympiacos....Juergen Klopp in the frame to replace him from the new season :amazed:

Black Dagger 17-03-2014 10:35 AM

I hope not. I like Klopp </3.

AnnieK 17-03-2014 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 6758461)
I hope not. I like Klopp </3.

I love him...I hope we do get him and then we can forget about this awful season....

Jesus. 17-03-2014 10:49 AM

Klopp doesn't break his contracts, and he has 2 more years left to run, so there is no way in hell Klopp will be united manager next season.

He might be in the frame from the united perspective, but he won't accept that job in a million years.


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