The referendum is not binding. However, the government would be on a suicide mission if it chose to ignore the will of the people.

I don't know what the formal notice of withdrawal is. I know they were pushing for 28 days but whether that's been passed or amended? :conf: The reason the out campaigners wanted such a short notice period is to stop the government using a 'close vote' or 'lack of vote' for a referendum withdrawal.

It is binding, this is not a information seeking exercise,the govt have clearly stated the people will decide in this referendum whether the UK remains in the EU or leaves.
The govt have handed the whole responsibility of the decision to stay or leave to the voters only.

It is no longer a decision then for govt, if we vote to stay we stay and if the vote is to leave we leave.
They have put no conditions on it even as to turnout,or majority or how many UK Nations vote for or against staying.

This is a fully binding referendum on the govt,no matter how close or how wide the result either way.

you cannot just vote you have to apply to vote, that stinks too, millions wont be aware of this

umm, you're welcome. :wavey:


It's just like the Scottish referendum... do you honestly think the votes matter? You are staying.

It's already decided. Get over it.

The USA has been doing it for two centuries, and we even fought the most deadly war we've ever fought to keep all the states in our Union. The US individual states are just like individual EU countries. You make no sense saying the US would never accept those terms, because actually we do and have done for hundreds of years. and it has made us the most prosperous country in the world. the USA understands the benefits of keeping states in a union. We are the best evidence that the model works.

yes but usa didnt wait 3000 years to merge 30+ countries with 1000s of years of profoundly different languages, laws, currencies, resources, histories, cultures etc etc etc
the usa did it from the grass roots up with a tiny 6000 word constitution which worked....try our 70,000 one packed with more laws than any politician has ever managed to read let alone understand or implement

Indeed, you are right,excellent points.

I only wish I could have the confidence you have the the UK will vote to stay Alex, I really think it will be a narrow vote to leave myself.
From all I am hearing and picking up.

Heres another report today about how horrific ttip would be for the UK

just a few titbits , this is the deal that the EU and USA are close to completing
the usa will takeover just when the eu is at its weakest on its knees over run with debts, bankruptcies, overpopulation and terrorism


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a6999646.html

This is what youre supporting?


Opponents say the deal could give corporations the power to sue governments when they pass regulation that could hit firms' profits through an international court called the Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS).


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TTIP: Obama says trade deal should be signed by the 'end of the year'
United Nations figures show US companies have made billions of dollars by suing other governments nearly 130 times in the past 15 years under similar free-trade agreements.

Details of the cases are often secret, but notorious precedents include tobacco giant Philip Morris suing Australia and Uruguay for putting health warnings on cigarette packets

Your individual states are just that, states; states belonging to the same country. They are not separate countries each with hundreds, thousands of years of culture and history and a range of languages. It's not the same as this situation at all. If political decisions were made for the USA by Canada or by Mexico, and you all had to abide by them, you'd be opposed to that no doubt. But you think it's okay for the UK. The point is that it is not the business of Obama or anyone else who is not a British citizen.

Hi Alex.