no im not shocked livia its no different to teenage gangs running round the streets stabbing another school kid to death!
yes people need to get a grip and sit down and shut up or should we all go and blame some muslim family and burn their house down.

soldiers and their family's know the risks more so in Ireland
I give you know one can be prepared for a killing like this.

To be honest a school kid getting shot or knifed in broad daylight would shock me. This was so much more barbaric though. They butchered and hacked at this guy after running him over, and were so blahzé about it, wanting their "message" to get across via media...

How long now before a radical Muslim Imam preaching in a public place is dragged off and savagely beaten to death by an enraged crowd.

Not long I fear...!!!!

I feel really sad for this Soldiers family, this is a disgusting and completely unacceptable thing to happen.

I am also dismayed with the press too, showing this rotten individual on their front pages,that is exactly what these people want.
I just cannot imagine what the family of this Soldier must now be going through, yes, being a Soldier is a dangerous career but to be in his own country,they must have felt he was safer and then to have this brutal and barbaric end to his life.
I feel physically sick.

How can you not be shocked by this??

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-tonight.html

As someone else said...his point is perfectly reasonable and I can totally understand the reasonings behind it, but an eye for an eye never works and this is truly just as disgusting as what he is condemning.

because I have been in life or death situations, we live in dangerous times.

This Is Ironic From CNN, The Boston Bomber wrote eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth inside the boat when he was captured in, im now thinking these are linked?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

Can these people just be deported or something...I'd rather them go than the Muslim immigrants they so vehemently despise.

Heh. That twist to that story is such a load of bollocks. He lay dying from wounds from the night before but managed to write out a suicide note with god knows what, in the pitch black, that they didnt happen to find (despite searching the boat) until quite recently :laugh:

Its ridiculous isnt it.

My friends list exploded with a load of anti-islam **** too. Its quite embarassing how a whole religion gets blamed for the actions of a couple of nutjobs

The fact that anybody is not shocked by this upsets me.

What the **** has the world come to when two human beings can use meat cleavers to brutally hack another human being to death on a busy street and then somebody says it doesn't shock them?!

Why are we calling him a terrorist? It's like giving the insane **** some sort of badge, he's just a murderer.

Sorry Marcus. It was all over in less than an hour apparently..

this type of thing happens around the world, gangs running around chopping up men women and children.

Not sure I agree really, when a murder acquires a political character it crosses the line into terrorism and I think that's the case here, from the video it seems the guy is very concious of his actions and his motivations for them

Excuse me, but what point is "perfectly reasonable" ..... :conf:

And that makes it less shocking how?

but by calling them terrorists, you're playing into their hands, they want to spread fear, if you call them crazed killers, people just blame the individuals. People say he's concious of his actions, but to be honest, someone shouting bull**** in the streets holding a cleaver and knife in their bloodied hands, beside a body they just beheaded is nothing short of utterly nuts.

Because they are
One is from Nigeria.


They a Typical cowards
Drove over him first

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg

Mine too, I'm so disappointed by some of the stuff I've read by some people I know. It appears social media on the whole seem to be very 50/50 on scapegoating all Muslims/thinking that's pathetic, when I would've thought those peddling the anti-Islam rhetoric would've been in the minority. It's saddening that they seemingly aren't.

The mentality behind it is so ill informed and as you say, utterly embarrassing. I've seen comments like 'get back to your own county if you don't like our rules' and 'David Cameron needs to get all the immigrants to leave' (that one is dumb on so many levels). It's astounding. But that's the power of a right-wing media. Honestly, the amount of kids that go on about Muslims/immigrants/benefits in a derogatory manner is appalling. These kids are just spoonfed this misinformed bile every day wherever they go and it's perpetuated by their family and friends, it's like a vicious circle.

Not that he is or isn't one, don't really care....but how is he being from Nigeria meaning he is a terrorist?

What dumb ****ing logic.

its less shocking to me because im well aware of these murders and the images that go with them, and other crime that involve children and their parents.

I'll respond to that point when you justify your racist remark a few pages back and explain to me how it's surprising that a black man is 'well spoken'.

But there it is again, a nutcases words, printed for the masses to see, the guy is obviously insane and not representative of what Muslims are like, yet, his words are printed as if they are.

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/r...es/2462045.jpg
Nigeria - This one


Because its full of terrorists


Feck me look at that Killing in Nigeria , not that long ago
English charity worker and that Itlalian
both shot in the head

Extreme Muslims Yes

I don't know, I think it's a bit flippant to dismiss him as insane & I don't imagine they would consider 'terrorist' to be anything like a badge of honour, I'd have thought they'd find it insulting to have their actions demeaned in such a way and would probably argue that our army are the terrorists.

[Mum talked down Woolwich terrorists
who told her: 'We want to start a war in London tonight']

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-tonight.html

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...o_2570580d.jpg
The mother talking to the Nigerian Terrorist

The guys obviously wanted to get a message across, and didn't care about the outcome, them being classed as "terrorists" will stick in peoples minds more than "killers". I think it is right to call them insane, no sane person would run someone down and cut off his head for wearing a "Help for heroes" t-shirt.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

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Not gonna entertain this ****.

Yea I think that's unfair on Nigeria arista, yep there are terrorists there, but the majority of people there are decent. So it's not at all right to say it's full of terrorists.

im suprised theres been no message of support from the president yet wondering if camerons pissed him off.

Yeah, I agree. A few of my closest friends are Nigerian and they are not terrorists. You cannot generalize everyone like that.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your logic.

A man, safe in his own country, was chopped to bits in cold blood in a busy street full of other innocent bystanders.

Regardless of other atrocities on the world, this is horrific and terrifying!

That's not what I said ..... :nono:

I said "The "fanatic" is surprisingly black and well-spoken" ..... :idc:

At 1930, the news program I was watching described a "terrorist" attack having taken place in Woolwich where one of the assailants (no ethnicity or race mentioned) had been shouting incoherently except for one phrase "Allahu Akbar”, which, AFAIK, is an Islamic phrase which Muslims use, meaning "God is great".

I was therefore surprised when, later, linked on this site to a video which showed a black man speaking English very well* (or with "reason") when most of Britain's Muslims are of Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi origin or ethnicity and such extremists as belong to those origin/ethnicities are frequently portrayed as being lacking in English language communication and presentation skills **.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100

* "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," said the Woolwich attacker who spoke with a London accent. "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same."



** See Parviz Khan link in post #281.

Now explain your remark, as I requested, please ..... :pipe:

I couldn't believe on the news, the lady walking by him with a shopping trolley as he spoke to the bus passengers covered in blood holding 2 machetes... totally surreal.

Yeah, she seemed completely oblivious, or just desperate to get home for her cup of tea... She certainly didn't seem interested in anything going on around her!

Yeah, many aspects of this "terrorist incident" are not what we have become "used to" ..... :idc: