Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11115407)

A teenage girl is targeted and groomed to join a terrorist organisation, with grooming methods very much similar to that of victims of sex trafficking and sexual assault. She goes to the Middle East, is made to marry an IS fighter, has several children that all die and this is all before she's 20 years old. When she wants to come home, the UK government make a pantomine of it all to appeal to rancid gammon and hold her out to dry when we've taken back actual violent terrorists in the past with no such furore. She gets made an example of to sate the vindictiveness of this country and we all become hypocrites in the process as we strip a UK citizen of her citizenship and leave her without a nation, forcing her to become Afghanistan's problem when everyone that supports such actions would be throwing a fit if another country forced us to take in their 'undesirables' in the way we've forced Afghanistan to keep hold of Shamima. It's also against basic human rights to make someone nationless but that's what we've done because **** the rules, we're Britain.

I never used to feel much sympathy for her, but the more I hear about it, the more I realise how ****ed up it is and how hypocritical people are about it. Like, look in this thread alone. Look at Rustic's older posts about saying how Shamima Begum wasn't 'sorry enough' at the right time and that it's too late now. Rustic made out that there was some kind of time limit on things like this but she'd move the goalposts if the situation was different.

Shamima Begum should be allowed to come back, face the courts on any crimes she has committed, and be completely deprogrammed. Her experiences could prove to be very important in anti-terrorism and radicalisation efforts, but nah, gotta appeal to the bloodlust of the armchair gammon and punish someone who is very much a victim of teenage naivete and circumstances while we accept actual dangerous terrorists back with nary a complaint.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11115469)

she didn't help her cause by how she came across in previous interviews, that's for sure, but, we won't let her back in the country, yet we free a known child killer. It all seems wrong to me. We care about murderers and rapists and favour their route to rehabilitation above the safety of the general public but there is no route back for her

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11177527)

Was on GMBHD itv early

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11177527)

Was on GMBHD itv early

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11177556)

She was likely groomed, but doesn't mean she has been 'ungroomed' and can still present a significant risk. I think that she could at least be trialled here with very strict security protocol. Once radicalised is there turning back, questionable and questionable threat.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11206362)

Are they suggesting he did it to maintain his cover or had he gone rogue?

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11177671)

There's been no indication at all that she's been "ungroomed" or deradicalised. She doesn't regret her actions and want to return because she realises the ideology she was pursuing is bad, but because ISIS failed and life over there ain't what it was cracked up to be.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11206388)

Wouldn't it be valuable though to take her back to the UK and use her to try and figure out how and why she was successfully groomed by terrorists and figure out a way to stop this happening in the future? She could have a lot of information that might be helpful in understanding the enemy better too.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11206412)

I doubt she knows anything useful which couldn't be found elsewhere.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11231491)

Has any one watched the faking it special?
Shows what a truly twisted creature she is