Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 26-02-2021, 08:57 AM #1
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
Default Shamima Begum: UK Supreme Court say no to her appeal/ New Appeal Nov 2022 starting

The Supreme Court
feels the Home Secretary, at that time
was correct.


She has no British Citizen, at this point.
LBC 10 AM show Left Winger is debating this now,
He says she should not have citizenship stripped.



Just was live on Both news Channels


Marry an Isis Killer
you pay the price

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ip-court-rules

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...begum-23569656

Last edited by arista; 21-11-2022 at 04:56 PM.
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:17 AM #2
Zizu's Avatar
Zizu Zizu is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 27,063
Zizu Zizu is offline
Senior Member
Zizu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 27,063
Default

Iím glad ... I just couldnít take to her at all and Iím usually such a forgiving person .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Zizu is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:20 AM #3
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

go live on the ocean then
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:24 AM #4
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
go live on the ocean then

What are you on about?
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:25 AM #5
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
What are you on about?
she is stateless, so she can't live in any country
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:27 AM #6
Denver's Avatar
Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,021

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
Denver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,021

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
she is stateless, so she can't live in any country
She can take up Dutch citizenship they will love her there
__________________

Spoiler:

[/CENTER]

Denver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:30 AM #7
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by Denver View Post
She can take up Dutch citizenship they will love her there
which is why i will vote alongside my parents PVV and Wilders for our new PM, stronger anti-muslim policies
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:32 AM #8
Denver's Avatar
Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,021

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
Denver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,021

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
which is why i will vote alongside my parents PVV and Wilders for our new PM, stronger anti-muslim policies
So basically you are saying you racist and hate Muslims?
__________________

Spoiler:

[/CENTER]

Denver is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:38 AM #9
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,013

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,013

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

This is the right decision in my view.
joeysteele is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 09:40 AM #10
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Denver View Post
So basically you are saying you racist and hate Muslims?
no but we don't have anymore place for her here, for anyone else who wants to enter, we are already filled up with enough refugees

maybe France has place for her
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 10:52 AM #11
hijaxers hijaxers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 13,558


hijaxers hijaxers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Bristol
Posts: 13,558


Default

Really pleased she lost her appeal , i really have no sympathy at all with this woman.
hijaxers is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 01:03 PM #12
bitontheslide's Avatar
bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,604

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
bitontheslide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,604

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

i'm really pleased with the outcome, but i thought it would fall the other way
bitontheslide is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 01:05 PM #13
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
User banned
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,932

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
i'm really pleased with the outcome, but i thought it would fall the other way
yes one less terrorist in UK

very good news
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 03:13 PM #14
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
Default

arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 03:28 PM #15
rusticgal's Avatar
rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,372


rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
rusticgal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,372


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Denver View Post
She can take up Dutch citizenship they will love her there


Isnt her husband Dutch?
rusticgal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 03:29 PM #16
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Story is the same as it always has been; raised in Britain, radicalised in Britain, now insisting she isn't our problem. Pathetic. Good luck to the UK trying to deport criminals and terrorists back to their country of origin after this... They have set precedent. Their home country can just say "nah nothing to do with us". Right?

Last edited by Toy Soldier; 26-02-2021 at 03:29 PM.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 03:30 PM #17
rusticgal's Avatar
rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,372


rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
rusticgal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,372


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
i'm really pleased with the outcome, but i thought it would fall the other way

Knowing how soft we can be in this country...
rusticgal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 03:32 PM #18
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rusticgal View Post
Knowing how soft we can be in this country...
This is a demonstration of exactly how soft this country is. She was educated and radicalised in the UK, and she is the UK's mess to clean up. Are we going to? No we're going to wash our hands of it. Soft, pathetic, cowardly, shirkers of responsibility. Sums us up quite well on this one, I think.

Oh and to double down on the cowardice - the only reason it was ever denied was to appease the outraged public. Truly shameful populist leadership.

Last edited by Toy Soldier; 26-02-2021 at 03:49 PM.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 04:33 PM #19
caprimint's Avatar
caprimint caprimint is offline
another vice
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 7,997

Favourites (more):
CBB2024: Louis Walsh
BB2023: Jordan
caprimint caprimint is offline
another vice
caprimint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 7,997

Favourites (more):
CBB2024: Louis Walsh
BB2023: Jordan
Default

Thank ****ing god for this!!!!!!!!!!!!
caprimint is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 05:03 PM #20
Oliver_W's Avatar
Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
POW! BLAM!
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 16,009

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
POW! BLAM!
Oliver_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 16,009

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
Story is the same as it always has been; raised in Britain, radicalised in Britain, now insisting she isn't our problem. Pathetic. Good luck to the UK trying to deport criminals and terrorists back to their country of origin after this... They have set precedent. Their home country can just say "nah nothing to do with us". Right?
To be fair this particular decision just means she can't come here to fight her case for citizenship, our hands aren't washed of her yet!
__________________


Oliver_W is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-02-2021, 06:41 PM #21
Fetch The Bolt Cutters's Avatar
Fetch The Bolt Cutters Fetch The Bolt Cutters is offline
-
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 34,862


Fetch The Bolt Cutters Fetch The Bolt Cutters is offline
-
Fetch The Bolt Cutters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 34,862


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
go live on the ocean then
SCREAMING
Fetch The Bolt Cutters is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-06-2021, 02:18 AM #22
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
Default

[Can I come home, pretty please?... I would love to help
others': New look jihadi bride Shamima Begum says she
was a 'dumb kid' when she fled to Syria aged 15 - but insists
she doesn't need to be rehabilitated
Shamima Begum, 21, has insisted that she does not
need to be rehabilitated
Former East London schoolgirl speaking during
interview at al-Roj prison camp
Begum, who left Britain to join IS in 2015,
remains stripped of her citizenship]



[Shamima Begum, 21, has insisted she does
not need to be rehabilitated during an
interview at al-Roj prison camp in Syria
(pictured with journalist Andrew Drury)]
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-06-2021, 02:20 AM #23
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,827
Default




Yes now aged 21
But Not Legal to return to the UK


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...a-aged-15.html

Last edited by arista; 15-06-2021 at 02:22 AM.
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-06-2021, 06:41 AM #24
Oliver_W's Avatar
Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
POW! BLAM!
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 16,009

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
POW! BLAM!
Oliver_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 16,009

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Tell her to get her walking shoes and a dingy.
__________________


Oliver_W is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-06-2021, 08:53 AM #25
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

If she genuinely no longer has terrorist sympathies and wants to work towards helping other young girls at risk of radicalisation... what possible reason is there to not at least explore that as an option? Obviously she would need to be assessed to ensure that it's genuine and not simply a ruse to get back into the country.

As always I struggle with this story - she was a child when she was radicalised and went off to become an ISIS bride, and has become a press poster-child and propaganda piece. I feel like there's very little examination of the actual individual situation at all, simply because it became such a high-profile tabloid thing, and that doesn't sit right.

Would be different if she's actually engaged in violence or in planning terrorist activity but she was essentially a dumb 15 year old who was tricked, seduced away from home, raped and impregnated. It's a mess and the UK's refusal to engage is, ultimately, ridiculously irresponsible.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
appeal, begaum, begum, court, shamima, supreme, uk

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:09 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts