I keep hearing people say Mick is 'very intelligent'. :D That always makes me laugh.

He's done NOTHING to demonstrate any intelligence. I think he's totally thick. But people in the media love to throw out these compliments, like 'very intelligent' when there is no evidence to support it.

LBC's Nick Ferrari was saying Mick is 'very intellient' this morning and Julia Hartley-Brewer said Mick is 'very intelligent'. Seems like they get off praising this Mick IDIOT. :rolleyes:

Bizarre. Very weird.

time will tell if he is intelligent or not. Personally, i think the union made a mistake by rejecting the pay offer without asking their members and implementing strikes at a time that families won't get back. People forget that last christmas was bombed by covid too, so we have had years of disruption at christmas

They could have had many more of the public on their side with a little bit of intelligence

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Its funny because he was on radio a few weeks back saying they wouldn't interrupt Christmas travel and here we are, all the businesses struggling as it is to make ends meet and this won't help, sometimes you have to pick your battles

i think the unions are going to regret continuing this strike action. A pay offer is on the table if they accept some restructuring If they don't accept it, then people will work from home and struggling hospitality will go out of business, but the rail companies strategy wont change

Also added today


Also added by the RMT Union

6PM 24th Dec - to 27th Dec. 2022

that basically means that people cant travel 24-27th, which kills christmas with family for many

selfish

people will not forget

Mick Lynch was Live on SkyNewsHD
just before 10AM
he said the Deal was going fine
but then the Government
Insisted Driver Only Trains.

Mick says that is too dangerous
They will not agree.

Mick Lynch
has asked to speak to the Prime Minister.


Of course what has halted all current talks
is Saying
No guards on trains.


Mick will never agree to that.

Probably worth noting that this doesn't just affect rail; the lack of rail availability will mean that anyone who usually commutes by rail but also drives, will now be on the road commuting by car.

If you usually commute into cities (or if you're travelling into a city during commuter hours over the strike period) by car ... I'd double your journey time because the roads are going to be packed. It's bad enough normally at this time of year with all of the Christmas rush.

it has to be a very fine balance with strikes. The public are largely sympathetic to the strikers, but if it starts to impact their lives repeatedly, the sympathy can run out very quickly.

The unions and employers need to learn compromise

I will say again as I said on the nursing strikes page; transport (like medical) staff have an economically vital service that they can withhold. Public support is nice, but ultimately unnecessary. What is Joe Public going to do? They have no power. The politicians aren't going to budge on the grounds of public pressure or "for votes", they evidently do not give a hoot about public opinion, and so public opinion is irrelevant to strike action.

Frankly... the only thing holding many of these workers back from more significant strikes is the feeling that they're letting down a supportive public. If the public turns on them in any meaningful way, that feeling of duty will erode rapidly and these workers will be far more willing to vote for far more substantial strikes.

thats just not true, public opinion is everything in strike action. You probably werent around when strikes were last a big thing in the UK and at that point, public opinion was everything

You've countered your own point there bots; I know that it was important. It was important pre-neoliberalism- the last time something on this scale happened. That's why people think it's still important ... it isn't. If the public was joining these groups in any sort of meaningful protest, then yes that pressure might help. But vague support and well-wishes? I don't think so.

Heck, I think if the public turn vicious on nurses then huge numbers of them will flat-out quit the profession entirely and make the worries about strike action look laughable in comparison. The whole thing is on an absolute knife-edge.

But Mick Lynch
has stated Guards must stay on Trains,
it is too dangerous to remove them.

There is No compromise on that, possible

SkyNews Text :
[The Sunday Express has a warning
for union bosses that their strikes
could cost Labour the next election.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...c715098e70.png

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12...0918527036.jpg
[Passengers crowded on a platform at White City
underground station on the first day of rail strikes]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...os-begins.html


['December of discontent' under way
with strikes planned every day of month]


England in a mess

Mick lynch not to bothered about passenger safety in this photo.

Urgh, the underground is affected as well :fist:

I can't stand that Mick Lynch. He looks like a really old man of about 80, and should have been retired 20 years ago. Instead the clown is bringing the country to its knees.

Someone put him in an old people's home!! :D