Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7632820)

Positive discrimination would make the awards meaningless. To be a truly diverse society we've got to stop segregating ourselves, like Conzors said.

Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7632822)

yes!
when people don't recognize color and are just appreciated for who they are as a person then that's when discrimination will no longer be an issue.

Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7632810)

There just weren't any good films with a non-white lead role this year, there is nothing more to it!

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7632840)

Oh no, neither do I. But I feel Conzors was questioning why a "thing" is made about the representation of black actors in films.

And the older woman comparison is true. I'm sure Meryl Streep should just have her own category. The only older woman to ever win anything that I can ever remember. :laugh:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7632843)

Goldie Hawn said there are three categories of women in Hollywood - Babe, District Attorney and Driving Miss Daisy.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7632854)

Yeah, TV has overtaken films loads in the last 10 or so years hugely.

That's where the quality is too.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7632850)

I think TV is actually helping female roles hugely. TV has gotten so good in the last few years, so much so, film actors are starting to actually move into TV and alot of great shows have great female roles that cater for a much bigger and better range of "types" of women, American Horror Story and Orange is the New Black are 2 good examples of that

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7632837)

There are lots of sections of society who are under-represented in Hollywood. There aren't many great roles for older women, for instance. I honestly feel like things are moving for black actors though, every year we get a little further forward and pretty soon I'm sure black actors in leading roles will be the norm. I don't feel that positively discriminating is the way to push that forward.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7632828)

It's easy to say that as a white person though who hasn't really faced the same discrimination as black people. As LT said the lack of black actors up for awards was down to the lack of decent roles being given to black actors

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7632840)

Oh no, neither do I. But I feel Conzors was questioning why a "thing" is made about the representation of black actors in films.

And the older woman comparison is true. I'm sure Meryl Streep should just have her own category. The only older woman to ever win anything that I can ever remember. :laugh:

Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7633629)

I may not have faced discrimination because I'm black (because evidently, im not haha) but i have been the bunt of discrimination for other reasons - but i dont say that the oscars werent 'sexually diverse' this year because not many gay people won an oscar (although the host and his underwear phwoaarrrrrrr)



But its not as though they weren't given the part because they were black - it just so happens that the films up for the awards didnt star any black characters - and that is the ONLY reason. It has nothing to do with ethnicity.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7632836)

But how many films had non-white lead roles?

It's not really about the awards themselves but they always show up a lack of diversity within the film world itself.

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 7633642)

Yeah, I think this is generally the problem, like, that exodus film that was released last year, lots of people were in a furore that so many of the actors were white despite it being set in Egypt

Like, if George Washington was cast as a black man everyone would be up in arms :shrug:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 7633653)

And people in Egypt were actually not white


Which was my point

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7633657)

Not to mention all the religious inspired films like Noah, all those characters are always played by white actors when in reality they should be middle eastern