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arista 19-03-2018 05:25 PM

USA: Uber suspends self drive after a Car has run over a woman and killed her
 
Ref: BBCnewsHD and SkyNewsHD.



had to happen.....

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-arizona-tempe
she later died in hospital.

http://myfox8.com/2018/03/19/woman-h...-driving-uber/

Northern Monkey 19-03-2018 05:45 PM

That’s the thing about self drive cars.The testing phase is dangerous.How many people have to die before its perfected.

Crimson Dynamo 19-03-2018 05:45 PM

Not Ant testing uber cars as a sideline?

Kizzy 19-03-2018 05:46 PM

AI bye bye

Northern Monkey 19-03-2018 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9924238)
Not Ant testing uber cars as a sideline?

Oh no you di-ant :laugh2:

Northern Monkey 19-03-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9924239)
AI bye bye

AI is scary or Atleast will be.

Kizzy 19-03-2018 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9924265)
AI is scary or Atleast will be.

Doesn't look like it's even nearly a thing... all the scaremongering at lorry drivers that in 5yrs they'll have to retrain or be out of a job?.... no chance!

Brillopad 19-03-2018 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9924238)
Not Ant testing uber cars as a sideline?

:hehe:

Brillopad 19-03-2018 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9924271)
Doesn't look like it's even nearly a thing... all the scaremongering at lorry drivers that in 5yrs they'll have to retrain or be out of a job?.... no chance!

Thank Christ for that. Driverless cars - men self-identifying as women - one big car-crash after another!

Alf 19-03-2018 06:33 PM

Who will be charged for this?

Kizzy 19-03-2018 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9924328)
Who will be charged for this?

Actually that a fair point can it be seen as blameless?...

michael21 19-03-2018 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9924328)
Who will be charged for this?

Michael knight no less

user104658 19-03-2018 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9924283)
Thank Christ for that. Driverless cars - men self-identifying as women - one big car-crash after another!

Thank women for that. Driverless Christ - men self-identifying as driverless cars - one big car crash after another!

bots 19-03-2018 09:45 PM

driverless cars are here to stay, they fact that uber messed up in trials is no particular surprise to me, but lots of other manufacturers are actively testing, and they will become common place in the near future

Marsh. 19-03-2018 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9924492)
Actually that a fair point can it be seen as blameless?...

Surely the bosses of Uber will be held accountable?

MTVN 19-03-2018 10:12 PM

There actually was a person behind the wheel monitoring the car. If the woman steps out suddenly into traffic then are they really at fault?

thesheriff443 19-03-2018 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9924238)
Not Ant testing uber cars as a sideline?

Bit of a sick joke considering a woman has lost her life.

Kizzy 19-03-2018 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9924605)
There actually was a person behind the wheel monitoring the car. If the woman steps out suddenly into traffic then are they really at fault?

Not read anything about the incident then?

Police identified the victim as 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg and said she was walking outside of the crosswalk with a bicycle when she was hit at around 10pm

'The self-driving technology is supposed to detect pedestrians, cyclists and others and prevent crashes.'

'John M Simpson, privacy and technology project director with Consumer Watchdog, said the collision highlighted the need for tighter regulations of the nascent technology.'

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-arizona-tempe

MTVN 19-03-2018 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9924611)
Not read anything about the incident then?

Police identified the victim as 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg and said she was walking outside of the crosswalk with a bicycle when she was hit at around 10pm

'The self-driving technology is supposed to detect pedestrians, cyclists and others and prevent crashes.'

'John M Simpson, privacy and technology project director with Consumer Watchdog, said the collision highlighted the need for tighter regulations of the nascent technology.'

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-arizona-tempe

Er yes I have hence why I pointed out that there was a human operative behind the wheel. Thought you would benefit from knowing that as you were confused about who should be considered responsible. From the BBC article:

Quote:

Police said the accident happened Sunday night while the car was in autonomous mode. A human monitor was also behind the wheel.

Police said the woman, Elaine Herzberg, had not been using a pedestrian crossing.

Kizzy 19-03-2018 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9924626)
Er yes I have hence why I pointed out that there was a human operative behind the wheel. Thought you would benefit from knowing that as you were confused about who should be considered responsible. From the BBC article:

So... It was in driverless mode at the time wasn't it? There was still nobody stepping out suddenly.

Police said the woman, Elaine Herzberg, had not been using a pedestrian crossing.

The self-driving technology is supposed to detect pedestrians, cyclists

Marsh. 19-03-2018 11:41 PM

If there was someone behind the wheel for the sake of these "tests" then surely they are there to act to prevent accidents so they are at fault?

Like a driving instructor having a break pedal in case of emergency?

Maru 20-03-2018 12:58 AM

I liked the original idea of having magnets/rails in the road that the cars followed... I don't like autonomous... I think that it's a security risk, especially if those systems run on a network and are hacked into remotely somehow... I like the rail system because at least, a networked/AI-ish system is only one of the variables... a mixed system sounds nice (but the infrastructure would probably be $$$$$$)

Marsh. 20-03-2018 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9924699)
I liked the original idea of having magnets/rails in the road that the cars followed...

I love trains. :laugh:

user104658 20-03-2018 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9924676)
If there was someone behind the wheel for the sake of these "tests" then surely they are there to act to prevent accidents so they are at fault?

Like a driving instructor having a break pedal in case of emergency?

Well... The legal issue would still be questionable there: because if you hit someone on a driving lesson (even on your very first lesson) it's the driver who is legally responsible, not the instructor.

A lot of learner drivers believe that they aren't legally responsible for what happens when they're behind the wheel if they don't have a full licence... But that's not the case.

Marsh. 20-03-2018 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9924818)
Well... The legal issue would still be questionable there: because if you hit someone on a driving lesson (even on your very first lesson) it's the driver who is legally responsible, not the instructor.

A lot of learner drivers believe that they aren't legally responsible for what happens when they're behind the wheel if they don't have a full licence... But that's not the case.

Yes but we're talking about a machine so the company bears the responsibility, surely?

My comment about an instructors pedal was more of a question tbh. Do the cars not gave safety measures like that to prevent accidents like this?


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