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Crimson Dynamo 12-11-2018 11:58 AM

Antiques shop is slammed as 'outdated and offensive' for selling 'N**ger money banks'
 
Antiques shop is slammed as 'outdated and offensive'
for selling 'N**ger money banks' and golliwogs playing
musical instruments

  • The items were on display in glass cabinets in Memories Antiques, Ramsbottom,
  • Anti-racism charity Hope not Hope said they were 'outmoded' and 'appalling'
  • Shopper John Pearce said he understood why people would find items offensive
  • Memories Antiques said the money banks have now been removed from sale

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An antiques shop has been slammed after selling an 'appalling' haul of racist memorabilia including 'N****R
money banks' and golliwogs playing musical instruments.

The items include a pair of what are described
on their £65 price tags as 'N**GER money banks'
and the reviled children's book The Story Of Little Black S*mbo for £23.

Also on display are ceramic figures of golliwogs
playing musical instruments for £12 each and
another offensively caricature-esque money bank of 'Smilin' Sam From Alabam' for £52.

The final 'offensive' items are three sets of eight
golliwogs playing musical instruments - for £10 each.

The collectables are openly displayed in glass
cabinets in Memories Antiques in the centre of
the Greater Manchester market town of Ramsbottom.

A spokesperson for anti-racism charity
Hope not Hate said: 'This is outdated, outmoded and offensive.
We're well into the 21st century, not the early 20th.

'It's appalling to use the N-word to describe anything.

'It seems on the face of it pretty amazing that
somebody in this day and age is still selling these
things, particularly with that kind of terminology.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ney-banks.html

What do you think?

I have sold 2 of these thngs in the past
(not using the terms here i may add)
and these still come up at auction now and then (again the auctioneer would term them now as "ethnic")

By the way if you wnat to get an idea about the
charity mentioned in the article just have a look at their website to get a wee idea at what their agenda is

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/

:skull:

Matthew. 12-11-2018 12:02 PM

yeah that’s not on tbh

bots 12-11-2018 12:26 PM

It's going to be outdated given these are antiques, its in the definition of the word.

I don't think we should be destroying or wiping out these things. To me it highlights the progress that has been made since those times, and it's a good reminder of how things used to be.

arista 12-11-2018 12:31 PM

feck me £65
over priced


There shop is in Greater Manchester
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsbottom

will it get set on Fire???????????????????

arista 12-11-2018 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10344755)
yeah that’s not on tbh

What do you want done with those old items then?

Niamh. 12-11-2018 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10344781)
It's going to be outdated given these are antiques, its in the definition of the word.

I don't think we should be destroying or wiping out these things. To me it highlights the progress that has been made since those times, and it's a good reminder of how things used to be.

I think it's easy to say that as a white person as well though, when these antiques are basically mocking black people

Crimson Dynamo 12-11-2018 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10344792)
I think it's easy to say that as a white person as well though, when these antiques are basically mocking black people

not now its isnt and back then I doubt that was the intention - it was a novelty item like a black face would have been to 99.99% people

It was made to sell

Niamh. 12-11-2018 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10344796)
not now its isnt and back then I doubt that was the intention - it was a novelty item like a black face would have been to 99.99% people

It was made to sell

Sure Jan

Matthew. 12-11-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10344787)
What do you want done with those old items then?

idk, not really the point though is it

Crimson Dynamo 12-11-2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10344798)
Sure Jan

well if it wasnt it was a rather expensive and elaborate way to be racist when racism wasnt even a thing

arista 12-11-2018 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10344803)
idk, not really the point though is it


Do you want to ban them.
Then the price could triple

Twosugars 12-11-2018 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10344806)
well if it wasnt it was a rather expensive and elaborate way to be racist when racism wasnt even a thing

not Smiling Sam from Alabam :rolleyes:

racism has always been a thing, just back then it was more "natural" hence not seen as a problem
a bit like homos seens as perverts, perfectly natural back then

Matthew. 12-11-2018 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10344843)
Do you want to ban them.
Then the price could triple

just throw them out

user104658 12-11-2018 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10344781)
It's going to be outdated given these are antiques, its in the definition of the word.

I don't think we should be destroying or wiping out these things. To me it highlights the progress that has been made since those times, and it's a good reminder of how things used to be.

I agree about it being dangerous to attempt to erase the past but these belong in a museum with proper educational context attached; not still out being bought and sold privately.

arista 12-11-2018 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10344852)
just throw them out


That's no good
someone will go through his Rubbish and
Sale it at a Higher price (rare item)

Tom4784 12-11-2018 02:19 PM

It's not right to sell them like they are every day items. They have historical value and there's a lesson to be learned from them but to sell them like they are some sort of curio is grotesque.

arista 12-11-2018 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10344882)
It's not right to sell them like they are every day items. They have historical value and there's a lesson to be learned from them but to sell them like they are some sort of curio is grotesque.


Yes Clever how the Shop owner
puts them in the middle of normal buying items.


Must be alot of the Robertson's Jam Jar fella
pottery small bits - only £12 EACH


Sign Of The Times

armand.kay 12-11-2018 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10344806)
well if it wasnt it was a rather expensive and elaborate way to be racist when racism wasnt even a thing

when did you become a full time troll account? because this is- whew!!!!

armand.kay 12-11-2018 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10344882)
It's not right to sell them like they are every day items. They have historical value and there's a lesson to be learned from them but to sell them like they are some sort of curio is grotesque.

I agree although I would probably still side-eye the shop keepers for trying to make money off of items like this... how did they even aquire them in the first place what made them think 'this is just what the store needs' loool

Mokka 12-11-2018 02:40 PM

Wait... was there a time racism wasn't a "thing"
What kind of utopia era did I miss hearing about.

Scarlett. 12-11-2018 02:43 PM

Seems strange they'd have multiple items like this, if it was just one it probably wouldnt have been as big of a deal as it is

arista 12-11-2018 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10344911)
Seems strange they'd have multiple items like this, if it was just one it probably wouldnt have been as big of a deal as it is


They may sell them all
now, as he has full ads for his shop
on the DM site

Matthew. 12-11-2018 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10344876)
That's no good
someone will go through his Rubbish and
Sale it at a Higher price (rare item)

take it home and throw it away in their own bin then

Moniqua 12-11-2018 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10344792)
I think it's easy to say that as a white person as well though, when these antiques are basically mocking black people

:clap1:

TomC 12-11-2018 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10344882)
It's not right to sell them like they are every day items. They have historical value and there's a lesson to be learned from them but to sell them like they are some sort of curio is grotesque.

.

Clearly they should go to some sort of museum, the shopowner shouldn't be trying to make money off racist artefacts


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