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Kate! 04-08-2025 08:18 AM

Clarification on the vast differences between asylum seekers and illegal migrants.
 
An asylum seeker is someone who has left their home country and is seeking protection in another country, claiming they fear persecution or harm, and their claim is still being assessed. An illegal immigrant, or undocumented migrant, is someone who has entered or remained in a country without the legal right to do so, often without proper documentation. While an asylum seeker is seeking legal status, an illegal immigrant lacks legal status.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Asylum Seeker:
Definition:
An asylum seeker is an individual who has crossed an international border and applied for asylum in another country, claiming they fear persecution or harm if they return to their home country.
Status:
Their claim is under consideration by the host country's immigration authorities.
Legality:
While they may have entered the country irregularly, they are not necessarily illegal immigrants as they are actively seeking legal protection through the asylum process.
Right to Apply:
Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in a country that has signed the 1951 Refugee Convention, and they have the right to remain until their claim is assessed.
Example:
A person fleeing war in their home country arrives at an airport in a different country and applies for asylum. They are an asylum seeker while their claim is being processed.
Illegal Immigrant (or Undocumented Migrant):
Definition: An illegal immigrant is someone who resides in a country without the legal right to do so, having either entered the country without authorization or overstayed a visa.
Status: They are considered to be in violation of that country's immigration laws.
Legality: They lack legal status and may face detention or deportation.
Example: Someone enters a country on a tourist visa and then stays beyond the visa's expiration date, or someone enters the country without authorization. They are considered illegal immigrants.
Key Differences:
Intent:
An asylum seeker intends to apply for legal protection, while an illegal immigrant may or may not have had any intent to seek legal status.
Legal Status:
An asylum seeker has applied for legal status, while an illegal immigrant lacks legal status.
Process:
An asylum seeker is undergoing a legal process to determine their status, while an illegal immigrant is in violation of immigration laws.

Kate! 04-08-2025 08:21 AM

To add to the above.

Asylum seekers, genuine cases are placed in sub standard accommodation.

Illegal migrants, of which there are many, many more entering on a daily basis, are placed in 3 star and above hotels. Hence all the countrywide protests that have been going on.

The public know what's what, and we are sick of it.

Glenn. 04-08-2025 08:49 AM

:joker: so unbelievably wrong

Kate! 04-08-2025 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11676132)
:joker: so unbelievably wrong

It's taken from a Government website.

Glenn. 04-08-2025 10:37 AM

Illegal immigrants aren’t housed by the government. Except the ones in detention centres.

This may help clarify it for you


1. Immigration Removal Centres (IRCs)
•Secure detention facilities.
•Used to hold people:
•Awaiting deportation.
•Who have overstayed visas.
•Whose asylum claims have been refused.
•There are currently 7 IRCs in the UK (e.g. Harmondsworth, Yarl’s Wood).
•Capacity: Around 2,000 people total.



2. Hotels and Temporary Accommodation (if asylum claimed)

If someone enters illegally but claims asylum, they are no longer considered illegal. While their claim is processed, they may be placed in:
•Hotels (e.g. budget chains) due to a shortage of housing.
•Dispersal accommodation (shared houses or hostels across the UK).
•Managed by contractors like Serco, Mears, or Clearsprings.
•In 2023, over 50,000 asylum seekers were living in hotels, costing taxpayers £8 million per day.



3. If not detained or claiming asylum

Illegal migrants who are:
•Not in detention
•Not claiming asylum
•Often live informally:
•Sofa-surfing
•With friends or relatives
•In overcrowded or unsafe housing
•Sometimes homeless or working illegally for shelter

Vicky. 04-08-2025 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11676122)
To add to the above.

Asylum seekers, genuine cases are placed in sub standard accommodation.

Illegal migrants, of which there are many, many more entering on a daily basis, are placed in 3 star and above hotels. Hence all the countrywide protests that have been going on.

The public know what's what, and we are sick of it.

..if they are illegal then how do they get nice hotels on the governments dime? Never understood that

Glenn. 04-08-2025 02:29 PM

They don’t Vicky. That’s what she’s trying to say happens.

Facts and processes apparently mean nothing.

Liam- 04-08-2025 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 11676274)
..if they are illegal then how do they get nice hotels on the governments dime? Never understood that

It doesn’t make sense because it’s obviously not true, illegal immigrants are illegal because they’re not supposed to be here and are not known to be here by the government, so this notion that they get given everything they want instead of white people is nothing but racist propaganda

Beso 04-08-2025 02:51 PM

Come by boat equals illigal..

As does arriving with no documentation...hence the need for passports.



People can dress it up in a big pink frilly asylum seeking dress all they want...but the illigal came before the asylum seeking..perhaps as not to be confused with chickens and eggs we could agree to call them illigal migrants with no other option but to claim they are seeking asylum.. but they would then have to have something to seek asylum from...the massive majority don't, hence why they ditch any form of documentation that would identify them.

Glenn. 04-08-2025 02:59 PM

Can’t even ****ing spell illegal

Kate! 04-08-2025 03:00 PM

No need to swear at him. Dearie me.

Beso 04-08-2025 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11676289)
Can’t even ****ing spell illegal

Such uncouth language from a wordsmith.:nono:

Glenn. 04-08-2025 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11676291)
Such uncouth language from a wordsmith.:nono:


It doesn’t help your case at all. At least make it believable.

Beso 04-08-2025 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11676292)
It doesn’t help your case at all. At least make it believable.

Still here are we.:smug:

Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2025 03:41 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GxgCOqvX...jpg&name=small

Kate! 04-08-2025 04:08 PM

I just watched several more videos of actual footage of the migrants in the hotels.

But no, it's not happening according to Glenn
Lol.

Glenn. 04-08-2025 04:10 PM

Dread to think the source :skull:

Kate! 04-08-2025 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11676308)
Dread to think the source :skull:

Whatever the source, you can't fake actual live footage.

Liam- 04-08-2025 04:12 PM

She’s watching racists just filming random brown people in hotels and believing everything said about them

Glenn. 04-08-2025 04:12 PM

Bless :joker: :joker:

Glenn. 04-08-2025 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11676310)
She’s watching racists just filming random brown people in hotels and believing everything said about them


They must be wearing name badges that say illegal immigrant

Kate! 04-08-2025 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11676312)
They must be wearing name badges that say illegal immigrant

Don't be ridiculous. They are interviewed and happily explaining why they are here.

Glenn. 04-08-2025 04:17 PM

Like the “concerned” mother from Epping who happens to be be the reform MP for Epping

Liam- 04-08-2025 04:22 PM

Or the ‘concerned citizen’ protesting to protect women and children, who was from Ireland and had been sent to prison for attacking, tying up and robbing an old woman, definitely just concerned people and totally not racists in any way whatsoever

Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2025 04:38 PM

"I’m at least hoping you know the difference between an asylum seeker and an illegal immigrant."

So which ones are the doctors and engineers?

:think:


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