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Chuckyegg 30-07-2009 12:34 AM

Remember when members of the UK general public used to be picked as housemates?
 
Or maybe it's never been like that.
Maybe the HM's have always consisted of:

Friends of previous winners
Relatives of Endemol employees
Promotions girls
Relatives of Premier league footballers
Rich people who can buy themselves (and thier girlfriends) into the house

Davina's milkman
Dreamboats from other reality shows.

I really think us ordinary plebs should be aware of this before we make the effort to audition.

This show is now so far removed from it's origional intentions. It started as a social experiment now it's a popularity contest between rich people and c-list celebrities and us mortals pick up the phone and part with our money like fools.

A bloody monkey could tell you why people don't watch it anymore.

Benjamin 30-07-2009 12:37 AM

I totally agree.

BB is more of a dying soap opera than a reality show now.

Thank god this will be its last year. :banana:

Jordan. 30-07-2009 12:37 AM

I only rember vaguely its been so long :blush:

bigbrother10uk 30-07-2009 12:40 AM

good post!

bigbrother10uk 30-07-2009 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by Chuckyegg

Davina's milkman
but which housemate was davina's milkman? :conf:

a_2009 30-07-2009 12:45 AM

For some reason i've kept watching for the last 9 years hoping it would be as good as the first, they had a decent set of people in, who had no idea about the fame/money etc, it was all about the experience....

Chuckyegg 30-07-2009 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by bigbrother10uk
Quote:

Originally posted by Chuckyegg

Davina's milkman
but which housemate was davina's milkman? :conf:
Don't ask. You're opening up a can of worms.

rayheartbliss 30-07-2009 12:48 AM

yes thats true!

it barely feels like the housemates are like the general pubilic, which was a strong key of the show

Chuckyegg 30-07-2009 12:48 AM

It's a funny little coincidence but when housemates started to realise that they would not neccessarily get famous from the show - BB started to include people who were already on the periphery of fame. Wierd.

Shasown 30-07-2009 12:49 AM

Yeah I remember those days, seems like so long ago.

But hey wtf, my cousin has a mate whose sister is the aunt of the of the man who drives the delivery of food to the BB studios at Elstree.

Do you reckon thats good enough for me to go in as a housemate either this series or if there is a BB11 then on that one

arsenalforever 30-07-2009 12:50 AM

they used to show all the audition video's on E4 alld ay

rayheartbliss 30-07-2009 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by a_2009
For some reason i've kept watching for the last 9 years hoping it would be as good as the first, they had a decent set of people in, who had no idea about the fame/money etc, it was all about the experience....
so true, now most are fame seeker/wannabies or lunatics,
thats why Tom left, cuz the people in the house are either one of these.

andyman 30-07-2009 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by ukturtle
I totally agree.

BB is more of a dying soap opera than a reality show now.

Thank god this will be its last year. :banana:
You don't have to watch it if it stays on.. :bigsmile:

bigbrother10uk 30-07-2009 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Chuckyegg
Quote:

Originally posted by bigbrother10uk
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Originally posted by Chuckyegg

Davina's milkman
but which housemate was davina's milkman? :conf:
Don't ask. You're opening up a can of worms.

wtf are you talking about?

rayheartbliss 30-07-2009 12:54 AM

i think, that they are only putting in people in there who some may have already seen before or heard of to convince people to watch the show!

they do deserve low ratings

keithafc 30-07-2009 12:54 AM

It's a complete joke really. I ain't the most hardcore big brother fan you will ever see.

But as i see it, it's not about REAL people anymore. Only one or two of them in the house can string a full sentence together. The show should NOT be this long. It's far too long. June to September? Must be having a laugh, get real.

And yes, a yank in the BB UK house. What is up with that?

Claymores 30-07-2009 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by bigbrother10uk
good post!
Seconded :hello:

jaysa24 30-07-2009 12:59 AM

The best series by far was BB3.

Years ago BB in the US put in housemates ex partners, BB Uk are just moving with the times. Hosnestly, if it was the same old dreary format, even us dedicated fans would not be watching.

Peace out

a_2009 30-07-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by rayheartbliss
Quote:

Originally posted by a_2009
For some reason i've kept watching for the last 9 years hoping it would be as good as the first, they had a decent set of people in, who had no idea about the fame/money etc, it was all about the experience....
so true, now most are fame seeker/wannabies or lunatics,
thats why Tom left, cuz the people in the house are either one of these.
There wasn't the same ego's in the house, so they seemed to get on a lot better as a group, just cause a lot more mischief and not constantly talk about how they may be percieved on the outside....there was much more of a sense of fun....i've not seen much fun being had in the last few....

bigbrother10uk 30-07-2009 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaysa24
The best series by far was BB3.

Years ago BB in the US put in housemates ex partners, BB Uk are just moving with the times. Hosnestly, if it was the same old dreary format, even us dedicated fans would not be watching.

Peace out

im lovin this year's Big Brother USA.
much better :dance2:

ElProximo 30-07-2009 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chuckyegg
Or maybe it's never been like that.
Maybe the HM's have always consisted of:

Friends of previous winners
Relatives of Endemol employees
Promotions girls
Relatives of Premier league footballers
Rich people who can buy themselves (and thier girlfriends) into the house

Davina's milkman
Dreamboats from other reality shows.

I really think us ordinary plebs should be aware of this before we make the effort to audition.

This show is now so far removed from it's origional intentions. It started as a social experiment now it's a popularity contest between rich people and c-list celebrities and us mortals pick up the phone and part with our money like fools.

A bloody monkey could tell you why people don't watch it anymore.
EXCELLENT POST and I 100% agree and may your words be repeated to Big Brother relentlessly until they start to get the message.

For me, the loyal BB purist who actually bought a computer and got online specifically FOR watching Big Brother (yes old skool here),
but that amazing and fascinating social experiment has all but completely passed away.
As you say this is now professional reality show 'actors' like Noirin and Isaac,
It is now reduced to different countries producers trading their talent back and forth,
its models like Kris, Sophie, Karly who's Agents got tight with Endemol Agents,
I have no doubt you are correct that friends of Davinas have enough money to buy a spot,
It is as everyone else BUT normal everyday representations of the population.
ANyways...

What you said!

jaysa24 30-07-2009 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigbrother10uk
Quote:

Originally posted by jaysa24
The best series by far was BB3.

Years ago BB in the US put in housemates ex partners, BB Uk are just moving with the times. Hosnestly, if it was the same old dreary format, even us dedicated fans would not be watching.

Peace out

im lovin this year's Big Brother USA.
much better :dance2:
Where can I watch BB USA?

The problem with BB uk is that people don't like gameplans, backstabbing etc, but in BB USA thats what it's all about. People realise it's a show and they just enjoy it.

PooBay 30-07-2009 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chuckyegg
Or maybe it's never been like that.
Maybe the HM's have always consisted of:

Friends of previous winners
Relatives of Endemol employees
Promotions girls
Relatives of Premier league footballers
Rich people who can buy themselves (and thier girlfriends) into the house

Davina's milkman
Dreamboats from other reality shows.

I really think us ordinary plebs should be aware of this before we make the effort to audition.

This show is now so far removed from it's origional intentions. It started as a social experiment now it's a popularity contest between rich people and c-list celebrities and us mortals pick up the phone and part with our money like fools.

A bloody monkey could tell you why people don't watch it anymore.
Word.

rayheartbliss 30-07-2009 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by a_2009
Quote:

Originally posted by rayheartbliss
Quote:

Originally posted by a_2009
For some reason i've kept watching for the last 9 years hoping it would be as good as the first, they had a decent set of people in, who had no idea about the fame/money etc, it was all about the experience....
so true, now most are fame seeker/wannabies or lunatics,
thats why Tom left, cuz the people in the house are either one of these.
There wasn't the same ego's in the house, so they seemed to get on a lot better as a group, just cause a lot more mischief and not constantly talk about how they may be percieved on the outside....there was much more of a sense of fun....i've not seen much fun being had in the last few....
quite true i guess, and yerh i noticed, they dont seem to talk a lot bout how they might be percieved in the outside, which last year had loads of -.-

coolestrocknrollstar 30-07-2009 01:12 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Chuckyegg
Or maybe it's never been like that.
Maybe the HM's have always consisted of:

Friends of previous winners
Relatives of Endemol employees
Promotions girls
Relatives of Premier league footballers
Rich people who can buy themselves (and thier girlfriends) into the house

Davina's milkman
Dreamboats from other reality shows.

I really think us ordinary plebs should be aware of this before we make the effort to audition.

This show is now so far removed from it's origional intentions. It started as a social experiment now it's a popularity contest between rich people and c-list celebrities and us mortals pick up the phone and part with our money like fools.

A bloody monkey could tell you why people don't watch it anymore. [/quote

Its for these reasons the show is dying on its arse,,,it really cant continue with these wannabees,,,,the producers should find another way of getting hm's cus the current selection process from about bb6 onwards is exactly like the op has said. As a fan of bb i have to say this is probably the last year i will watch if the program (which i'm sure other fans over the years have done which is why the viewing figures are down)
TAKE NOTE OF THREADS LIKE THESE BB PRODUCERS IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THE SHOW!!!!!!!!!!

Patrick 30-07-2009 01:13 AM

I`ve been sayen this in every Thread involving Isaac and Kenneth before they entered and no one took noticed!

Its ridiculous, I know people who have auditioned, made it so close and then turned down because they dont date a HM!

I bet half the rejects this year were more entertaining than half of these people!

It was only shocking and brung in ratings when Nicole went in, now its used too much..

Bring in Marcus mum if they really want to shock people!

coolestrocknrollstar 30-07-2009 01:15 AM

Its for these reasons the show is dying on its arse,,,it really cant continue with these wannabees,,,,the producers should find another way of getting hm's cus the current selection process from about bb6 onwards is exactly like the op has said. As a fan of bb i have to say this is probably the last year i will watch if the program (which i'm sure other fans over the years have done which is why the viewing figures are down)
TAKE NOTE OF THREADS LIKE THESE BB PRODUCERS IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THE SHOW!!!!!!!!!!

Benjamin 30-07-2009 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyman
Quote:

Originally posted by ukturtle
I totally agree.

BB is more of a dying soap opera than a reality show now.

Thank god this will be its last year. :banana:
You don't have to watch it if it stays on.. :bigsmile:

I do. My new hobby is Hira spotting. :tongue:

Mutteroo 30-07-2009 01:17 AM

Ah yes BB1 was a ground breaking wonder. From then, on as far as normal contestants were concerned, it was downhill all the way.

bigbrother10uk 30-07-2009 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaysa24
Quote:

Originally posted by bigbrother10uk
Quote:

Originally posted by jaysa24
The best series by far was BB3.

Years ago BB in the US put in housemates ex partners, BB Uk are just moving with the times. Hosnestly, if it was the same old dreary format, even us dedicated fans would not be watching.

Peace out

im lovin this year's Big Brother USA.
much better :dance2:
Where can I watch BB USA?

The problem with BB uk is that people don't like gameplans, backstabbing etc, but in BB USA thats what it's all about. People realise it's a show and they just enjoy it.


i watch it on tv, but you can also see it at http://www.justin.tv/dreamangel/old

it tells you when its on,

sun 8pm - tues 9pm - thurs 8pm

so if you wanna watch it in britain, i think the times are:

mon 2am - wed 3am - fri 2am

yardski 30-07-2009 01:26 AM

I jus tuned into LF.. when and how did noirin's ex b/f go into the house? :shrug:

and what a load of bollox is that... do the producers think its gnna be more entertaining..? :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

so what if noirin is a flirt and there is tension in the house.. thats wat the show is about.. 2 ex boyfriends coming in2 the house aint made it any better.. and as for the adution process its a total joke ..

ElProximo 30-07-2009 08:19 AM

I even tried to propose a compromise and for that matter even take the short end of the compromise:

Let BB drop all pretense (and really they have now) and let your Summer season just go stupid with what are really just the 20 different Models and Actors whom the BB Agents have deals with. Let that be full of the Professional Reality Show Contestants traded back and forth by the established 'Biz' dealers. (Noirin, Isaac etc) and the Boyfriend and Girlfriends of HMs and Producers and even throw the celebrities in there. You Jeremy Kyle people (the professional talk-show contestants,
and,
Dont even bother with any pretense of following the original idea (already there) but so what.. have half the people already know each other, be like BBUSA and make sure 10 of them are all from the same NightClub that BB Producers frequent.
Have guests evicted and then return, have their family show up, have no evictions for months,
GO FOR IT!!
Basically just hire the cast from the Jerry Springer Play and have them live there for 3 months. Which is all you are doing now anyways.
Just do it.
Enjoy.. love it. Get massive disposable income from the types who obviously love that.

Okay.. Now... all I would ask is that for the Winter Season, instead of CBB (which is hard to discern anyways),
Instead,
Make the Winter version of BB (brace yourselves) but make that a fully legit, old-skool, purist, original concept Big Brother!!!!
I know wtf!?
Just give us that. 12 complete strangers who, in some broad range, represent some sort of reflection of the real UK demographic.
Absolutely NOBODY who has ever had a 'talent agent' and nobody who has ever been in television or entertainment.
12 complete strangers who are meeting for the FIRST TIME and who have NEVER worked for or been in the BB house.
Actual original BB rules and process.
Actually focus on their subtle and deepening inter-relationships.

At this point I would GLADLY settle for that. Then do whatever the F you want with your 3 month long Jerry Springer Play loosely based on the Big Brother concept featuring actors, models and friends of producers.
But give us that little something in Winter?
Is that so much to ask?
Can we get SOME sort of concession on this?

BB22 30-07-2009 08:32 AM

The Nicole stunt last year was kind of interesting. But then, illustrating their lack of imagination, the producers seemed to think they could simply take that stunt and do it again and again this year.

And, really, bringing in contestants from other reality shows is just totally crossing the line into the realm of lunacy.

Prole 30-07-2009 08:36 AM

I totally agree with chuckyegg. All the focus is drawn to the people you mention. Rex and his vacuous tart last year, hard-faced Karly and her d1ckhead of a boyfriend this year, who happens to be a friend of Rex. Now we've got Noirin and the shamelessly self-promoting "entertainer and bar owner" Isaac.

BB need to get back to the original premise or they're dead in the water.

WOMBAI 30-07-2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chuckyegg
Or maybe it's never been like that.
Maybe the HM's have always consisted of:

Friends of previous winners
Relatives of Endemol employees
Promotions girls
Relatives of Premier league footballers
Rich people who can buy themselves (and thier girlfriends) into the house

Davina's milkman
Dreamboats from other reality shows.

I really think us ordinary plebs should be aware of this before we make the effort to audition.

This show is now so far removed from it's origional intentions. It started as a social experiment now it's a popularity contest between rich people and c-list celebrities and us mortals pick up the phone and part with our money like fools.

A bloody monkey could tell you why people don't watch it anymore.
Completely agree!!

The whole programme has gone right off track now! Lost its original meaning! And they wonder why viewing figures have dropped!! It is now a complete sham!!

It is so unfair to give certain housemates such an obvious advantage over the others - and as good as turn it into their own show!

Why would anyone now want to audition for next year's show (if there is one) - what is the point?

Sex pests, playboy gangsters, boyfriends, ex-boyfriends, sons of friends of Davina's (Rex), his girlfriend - can't be doing with it anymore!

muchadoaboutnothing 30-07-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chuckyegg
Or maybe it's never been like that.
Maybe the HM's have always consisted of:

Friends of previous winners
Relatives of Endemol employees
Promotions girls
Relatives of Premier league footballers
Rich people who can buy themselves (and thier girlfriends) into the house

Davina's milkman
Dreamboats from other reality shows.

I really think us ordinary plebs should be aware of this before we make the effort to audition.

This show is now so far removed from it's origional intentions. It started as a social experiment now it's a popularity contest between rich people and c-list celebrities and us mortals pick up the phone and part with our money like fools.

A bloody monkey could tell you why people don't watch it anymore.
Probably one of the best topics (posts) on here for some time. Well done Father Chuckyegg.

Adamw92 30-07-2009 09:39 AM

I think they should start showing each series again from next year onwards

WOMBAI 30-07-2009 09:44 AM

Don't know about anyone else - but I for one won't be voting or viewing any more. This show is nothing without viewers and voters - the general public make the show - but in return get treated pretty shabily. Not voting and not viewing is the only 'voice' we have. :xyxwave:

RtooDee2 30-07-2009 09:48 AM

To me BB1 was still the best one. For the simple reason that not one of them knew
if anybody was watching. It was just them and Big Brother.
Now its them, Big Brother, the public, their agent, the Heat magazine deals and God knows what else!
'Normal' people dont stand a chance! Tom may have Loved himself but he was normal.
AND HE RAN FROM THE HOUSE SCREAMING! DONT BLAME HIM ONE BIT!

munky 30-07-2009 10:06 AM

Well said.

The whole genre is getting really tired. Total lack of imagination when selecting housemates and content. Out of all the people that audition is this really the best they can come up with?? They don't even have to feed chickens or grow their own veg anymore. No secret missions other than Rodrigo's bark like a dog challenge. Very dull.

I would like to see a series where the housemates enter the house to find their parents already in there waiting for them!

How about handcuffing HM's together for 13 weeks by the ankle? Now THAT would be fun to watch. As each week goes by, the evictees handcuffed partner gets handcuffed to another pair by the wrist.

Or, send them into a house that is completely empty with just a stack of wood, hammers and nails. They have to make their own beds and furniture from scratch.

Incidentally, if you go for an interview with Endemol you have to come up with two BB challenges on your application form!


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