Cameron backs abortion limit cut
 

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100408...t-6323e80.html

Call me cynical but is Big Dave trying to swing a catholic vote?

It's 24 weeks??? That's vile,babies can be born and survive at 24 weeks.

He'll whistle any tune to get votes.

"He'll whistle any tune to get votes. "

As Does One Eyed Scottish Brown our UnElected PM at this time.

'Better the Devil we know'

The Conservatives will only benefit the richer demographics as they always have. Brown's sh*t but he's a better prospect then the tories.

So predictable

As soon as the election gets underway, out comes the real Cameron.

I did not realise you could have an abortion up to 24 weeks :( oh my god :(

what he said!

24 weeks is too late! It should be lowered - although not entirely sure how much!

As someone said its to try and get votes from anti-abortion people and catholics.

well given that the baby has a heart beat from around 6 weeks it is actually a life i dont agree with abortions personally so would love to see it lowered or gone completely i have a friend whos first daughter was born at 27 weeks and is now a thriving almost 6 year old i also know of a 25 weeker who has survived too

It can't be got rid off completely - however upsetting some may find the idea! Noone has the right to force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want!

Well this, and the fact he's voted against gay adoption every time it was raised before being thankfully allowed, signals me to believe that he - and perhaps the Conservative Party - aren't as 'neo' as they'd like us to believe.

perhaps she waved that option when she got pregnant, after all we all know how it happens

The Conservatives are far from progressive it goes against everything they stand for

Mistakes happen - young girls who are niave are often pressured into sex by boyfriends - lots of different reasons - doesn't mean they should pay for it for the rest of their lives! Not to mention risk their lives as noone ever knows what complications may arise during the birth - there is always a risk!

It is called forcing your opinions on others - just because you don't believe in it - doesn't mean you have the right to force your opinion on others!

either you value human life above convenience or you do not

Personnally I would never have an abortion, that been said I've never been raped so don't know what I would feel about it then, also I wouldn't say I'm right about it either just my own personnal feelings. However, 24 weeks is so wrong in my view, a baby could actually survive if born at 24 weeks so this has to be seen as murder, surely?

What a 'laying a guilt trip' comment that is - if only life were that simple! Words are cheap - they mean nothing unless put to the test! Who are you or anyone else to decide what choice someone else has in a situation like that!

Maybe abandoning your children and taking no responsibility in their lives - should be made a criminal offence - might make many men think before pulling their trousers down! It takes two!

It doesn#t happen often Wombai but I agree with you completely here.

I think its easy to sit on one side or the other of the debate and fail to see the other sides point of view, at what date would you suggest the life inside the female becomes a life and is worthy of legal protection?

And we all know that women are all angels and its always the man's fault. Though what denial of parental responsibilities has to do with a debate on Cameron wanting to lower the time limit on abortion is beyond me or is it just another chance to have a pop at men, to hijack a thread and make another stand for feminism and against the evil of all men?

What's so bad about 24 weeks? An unborn foetus is neither conscious nor self-aware.

Seriously, the easier it is for as many people as possible to have access to an abortion doctor the better. If they had done this twenty years ago, the streets might not be as infested as it is with violent criminals from broken homes.

I think that abortions at 24 weeks offend peoples sensibilities, given that a high proportion of premature babies delivered at 22 weeks are now surviving. So some people now consider it to be tantamount to infanticide. Again a case of the easily offend moral minority trying to force limitations on the rights and freedoms of others.

Funnily enough the abortion limit at 24 weeks was set in 1990 - twenty years ago as an amendment to the 1967 Abortion Act.

The main point being that social abortion (- abortion simply because the woman doesnt want a child)doesnt really occur after about 19 weeks. And abortion after 24 weeks on medical grounds is still legal. When the foetus has abnormalities there is no limit on the time of abortion

Firstly - I believe 24 weeks is too late, as I have already stated in this thread, although I am not altogether sure what would be an appropriate date!

Secondly - when did I ever say women were angels - they clearly aren't!

Thirdly - my comments were a response to a poster whose comments implied that young women getting pregnant was all young womens' fault! I said it takes two - as it clearly does! If I went off track a bit, as many often do, it was not an intended attempt to 'hijack' a thread as you clearly implied!

Like many, abortion is something I have strong opinions on as is the fact that it is not just a female 'problem' and if some want to legislate and force women to have babies then there should also be legislation in place that makes the men involved take their share of responsibility - and not just put it all on the women as is often the case! That is not about making a stand for feminism against the 'evil of all men' - which sounds to me like a bandwagon you are jumping on!

yes lets just exterminate the people who we dont like and keep all the good ones....

and the first point is not valid as we do not know that at all. what we know is only what we know now, and we ALL know how unreliable that is over time..

The thought of doing away with abortion is a very scary thought imo, I'm very pro choice about the matter, I believe it is essential to exist for various scenarios.

and I hate Cameron anyway.

At least the Conservatives will reclaim our open borders and put the brakes on immigration which is now out of control. The Labour Party have no idea how many illegals are in this country, but they're alright Jack since they'll all be able to leave this country when England is finally bankrupted and sinks without trace due to sheer weight of numbers.

How anyone can say that Labour giving handouts to allcomers who have not paid a penny into the system is economically viable or fair and just to the poor, beleagured taxpayer in this country beggars belief. Yet there will still be idiots who want to vote that bunch of war criminals back into power. You don't see many of the Labour MPs' sons and daughters going off to Iraq or Afghanistan do you?

Her own fault init.

Tough luck.

But he's not talking about doing away with abortion just changing the cut off limit, 24 weeks is too late imo too

See this is why I like this David guy.

Apperantly he wants to cut down on Immigration and stop them from coming here?

Wicked.

It takes two to tango, so it's not quite her own fault!

I want Cameron or Clegg to win. I DO NOT WANT Brown to win at all!

Though this plan is silly though.

her fault/his fault but certainly not the babies fault!

Absolutely right!

True.

And the other parties wont?

^to all the people saying 'her/his fault' - what about rape?

Errr no thanks not just yet, am making tea. I can fit you in about 8 though, if thats ok?

Like the others he'll say anything to get into power, nothing will come of it though because like with all politicians it's just empty words. Anyone foolish enough to vote in a Tory will deserve what's coming to them when they drop the whole 'we care about the working class!' act as soon as they're elected. They care about the middle and upper classes, always have and always will.

All politicians are snakes but out of the current candidates Cameron is by far the worst.

Yes because I specifically said in my posts that the other parties were perfect....oh wait....stop trying to put words in my mouth. All parties are as bad as each other but the tories are by far the worst.

I see logic and you arent too well acquainted.