Oklahoma women to have ultrasound before abortion
 

Pregnant women in the US state of Oklahoma will be given an ultrasound and receive detailed information about their unborn baby before going through with an abortion, under new laws.

Pro-lifers say the new measures, passed by the state’s legislature, are an attempt to save the lives of unborn children and prevent psychological trauma to pregnant women.

Women will hear about the dimensions of the baby, whether arms, legs and internal organs are visible and whether there is cardiac activity.

A key supporter of the change in the law, Tony Lauinger, vice president of the National Right to Life Committee, said: “The intent of the law is to provide a woman with full and complete information in advance of an irrevocable act that will take the life of an unborn child”.

Mr Lauinger added: “It is hoped that with the benefit of that information some women will opt to allow their baby to continue to live.”
Ultrasound

Mary Spaulding Balch, a director at National Right to Life, said: “Ultrasound gives a mother a window to her womb. It helps to prevent her from making a decision she may regret for the rest of her life and it empowers her with the most accurate information about her pregnancy so that she can make a truly informed ‘choice’.”

A second new law attempts to protect doctors by stopping “wrongful life” lawsuits, which have become increasingly common.

In such cases, women sue their doctors if their child is born with an abnormality claiming they would have had an abortion if they had known about it.

Earlier this week it was revealed that a baby boy in Italy had survived for two days after a botched abortion at 22 weeks.

Press reports today claim the mother chose to abort the baby after a prenatal scan showed he had a cleft lip and palate.

He was wrapped in a sheet and left to die by staff at the Rossano Calabro hospital in Italy, but the day after the abortion the baby boy, who still had his umbilical cord attached, was discovered moving and breathing by a Roman Catholic priest.

The baby was rushed to another nearby hospital, where he died the following day.

In Britain the remarkable youngster’s fight for life has fuelled calls for a reduction in the upper time limit for abortions, which are currently allowed up to 24 weeks.

A spokesman for the ProLife Alliance said: “There cannot be anybody in the world who is not horrified by a story like this nor anybody in the UK who would not support a massive reduction in the upper limit for abortion.”

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/okl...fore-abortion/

I think this is kinda a good thing. It will make people think twice before an abortion.

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I don't agree with it at all, it's basically a guilt trip. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them get on with it and leave them alone, it's their choice to do so and nobody else's.

Heaven forbid when you have children

Heaven forbid you actually try to debate something for once.

It should be like that everywhere!

i dont agree in abortions only in speical situatons but if you can lay down and spreed yer legs then pay price

"I don't agree with it at all, it's basically a guilt trip. If someone wants to have an abortion then let them get on with it and leave them alone, it's their choice to do so and nobody else's. "


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Damn right they should be guilty!
Unless they were raped then they should have to deal with the consequences of not saying 'No'.

The abortion limit must be lowered. Also if you want an abortion you should PAY for it and not have it through the NHS. It will make people think twice before having unprotected sex. Abortion should still be legal. There are lots of young people having babies who working people are paying for and they get a council house given to them by the government. This is not fair, I think the baby should be taken away from them rather than working people paying for them to have their own house and imenities, etc..

by allowing them to avoid the consequences we just keep on killing babies rather than make people responsible

Are you arguing with me here or agreeing? Because i don't agree with abortion unless it's because of rape so your arguing for no point if that's the case.

What's wrong with that? People have the right to choose do they not?

That story about the poor in Italy,my god! The abortion limit in the UK is ridiculous,there have been babies who've been born and survived at 24 weeks.

the right to chose to kill a baby?

I never realised Murder was a choice.

abortion is wrong and one day will be illegal and seen as a disgusting stain on human existance

Abortion is wrong, I agree o_0
I just don't think it's AS bad if the woman has been raped, I still don't think they should do it but I can understand their reasons.

Oh please, most abortions take place very early in the pregnancy when the foetus is just an egg.

Also it's very easy to judge when you're not in the situation yourself. Lucy especially, if you were to become pregnant you would consider abortion although you'd probably swear blind you wouldn't. The point is you don't know how you'd act and feel in that situation unless you've experienced so don't judge the people who do have abortions when you don't know what's going through their heads.

The difference is most sensible people know how to keep it in their pants or atleast use protection so they don't have that problem in the first place. If you can't do the time don't do the crime!

Illegalising abortion? Are you sh!tting me? That will cause more harm than good. There are enough unwanted children as it is, not to mention over-population.

Why ruin a young woman's life just because she was stupid and naive one time? We all make mistakes. She also does not want to be stuck with a rape baby.

Pro-choice all the way, baby. :laugh:

Yes, well a lot of people aren't sensible, and therefore unfit to have children anyway.

Well they shouldn't be allowed the easy way out by a quick trip to a clinic to absolve them of all reponsibility. 'Naive' bull****. Their just too lazy to give a stuff.

It stops being an egg at the moment of conception.

I am glad it is illegal here.

Nah, illegal doesn't help anything, people just have backstreet abortions and that's not good.

can you tell me and everyone else how many "rape pregnancies" there were in the UK last year, or indeed any year?

Again, it's easy to judge isn't it? People make mistakes with contraception. It's not foolproof and celibacy isn't a viable option really. Like Enid said, making it illegal would only cause more harm.

People aren't perfect and no contraception is 100% guaranteed to work, I don't agree with people using abortion as a form of contraception but I don't judge people who don't make the choice lightly.

I have never heard of anyone in Ireland having an illegal abortion, people do go to England to have them sometimes though. It's only a trip across the water on a ferry. If there are abortions going on in Ireland then there are definitely less than there would be if it was legal.

Perhaps rather than worry about that it would be better to stop the pregnancies actually occurring?

maybe we should concentrate on cause that on result

You're also being naive about the situation. Sometimes it is an incredibly difficult decision and situations change. It's never as simple as taking a trip down to the clinic. Well maybe in some cases, but you know what I mean.

I'd rather a girl have an abortion than see her try to raise a child before she's physically, emotionally and financially stable to support it. I see it every day.

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what are the numbers of failed contraception pregnancies that you refer to, UK stats would do?

That is true but I don't see how even having one backstreet abortion is right. They are horrorific.

Well she shouldn't open her legs then should she?!

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Can't be arsed with this if people are going to be so narrow-minded.

Enid you have a very poor and stereotypical view of this subject, it is you that has the keyhole view here

It's not narrow-mindedness.
Feel free to explain to me why you think murdering a life is acceptable, i'm all ears.

http://www.cbrinfo.org/

This is not for the feint hearted so dont go there (ie warning).

Lol, "murder". It isn't a life. It isn't even a human being. Sorry, but we are clearly very different people. Maybe I don't value "human life" as much as you do, but I do value freedom of choice.

NOTHING is right or wrong, it is merely opinion. There is absolutely nothing to say murder or abortion is wrong. I don't have to explain why I think abortion is right. I've already been through it anyway.

Damn, this is just annoying as those "MEAT IS MURDER" protests.