Steve is typical of a brainwashed soldier
 

They think just because they 'fought for 'their' country', they're more entitled to an opinion than others, and have a better more informed opinion.

I have first hand experience of a brainwashed soldier relative who fought in Basra.

If what british soldiers do were that great, they wouldn't be earning a measely £400 a week.

I have personal knowledge of a relative who fought in the Falklands and can say you're 100% wrong.

Steve is just as thick as Pigsh!t

Maybe its certain soldiers then, however, they all believe what they're doing is for the good of the country. And also, many retired soldiers have said its a waste of time.

I'm sorry, but... so you're implying that the salary signifies how great the people are? So actors, Paris Hilton, and porn stars, are better than the armed forces? The salary doesn't mean anything.

I find myself continually agreeing with your posts GiRTh. The OP's opinion is his own, albeit blinkered and inflamatory, but I wouldn't mind betting he wouldn't be voicing it in the company of a serviceman. It's easy to be brave on the Internet.

:nono::nono: They edited out his mammoth strop. Much more of the same with a few eff words thrown in for free.

You could say the same about nurses, teachers etc - public service generally isn't that well paid - doesn't mean they don't deserve more - of course they do - the government are just tight - and pay all their money to their MPs for their expenses! :hugesmile:

He isn't the only one then!

I am a MASSIVE supporter of each and every member of the armed forces ,but I agreed with Ben ,We need to stop policing the world ,enough soldiers have lost their lives on foreign soil

Aye. They're all Foreign policy experts on the net.

That might be true now but was it rue back then of a leader who had already invaded Poland and Russia?

Exactly!

This!

Experts... yes. 'Ex' as in 'has-been' and 'spurt' as in 'a drip under pressure'.

This.

I think newspresenters are brainwashed ! :hugesmile:

No, its not about the human, its about what they do. Risking your life for £400 a week is ridiculous, hence the brainwashing that goes on to get them to do it.

You have personal experience of this brain washing, right?

I did, with my relative, he was going to attack me had someone not stepped in. They simply cannot handle someone exposing them.

Ben was talking more about now ,and we are Americas lapdog ,America say jump we ask how high

If he was on about now then I agree with him but I got the impression he was referring to WWII. I dont recall him mentioning America at all.

Someone like you, you mean?

If you took the same attitude with your relative that you've taken on this thread, it's lucky someone stepped in to save you, eh?

Exposing what exactly? How can you show your relative so little respect just to score points in a discussion?

I wouldn't have minded taking a punch from him, it might've made him see what a foolish thing he believes in. We were at a funeral reception by the way, my niece's. At the end of the night, he shook my hand, i noticed he'd had a word with his dad previous.

Nice moment you chose to make your point.

Enough. Life's too short not to have an 'ignore' list.

You are sooo wrong! Not everyone is totally mercenary in their outlook - some do their jobs for other reasons other than money, or is that something totally beyond your comprehension? Things like job satisfaction and helping others come to mind! :rolleyes:

Ben didnt ,but he said we cannot go on policing the world and we cannot

Exposing the falseness of the war. How mentally unstable does one have to be to believe that risking your life for £400 a week is ok, madness.

I would much prefer our troops patrol british streets catching illegals and other bad people, then i'd get something for the taxes i contribute.

He's right about that but he specifically mentioned WWII and the fact that we were not personally threatened.

Catching illegals? That says a lot about you if you think that's so important.

Maybe you made another ignorant comment that provoked him - sounds like a real possibility to me!

Ben reads ,Steve would struggle to

The reports and personal expressions coming from soldiers in iraq/afghanistan are that they're risking their lives, yes, some think they're doing good, some have, but generally they're not.

I cannot think of one good thing the people in britain have gained from this.

Considering Ben reads you'd think he's be more intelligent but it just goes to show there are some thing you cant get from book learning.

if there were no soldiers there'd be no wars!!

you are right but I think he lost the arguement by including WWII into the mix.....we may not have fully realised it at the time but because of true evil of Nazism , WWII was probably the most moral and necessary war we have fought

Oh. My. God.

Tell that to the Taliban! Dictators would rule the world with no one to stand up to them!

Due to human behaviour, we need them.

The first job of government is to protect the nations people, they're not doing this in iraq/afghanistan.