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Beastie 07-10-2010 06:23 PM

Capital Punishment V LIFE in Prison.
 
Capital Punishment V LIFE in Prison.

This thread and poll was inspired by this thread.....

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=163722

If YOU had to choose which sentence YOU wanted which would you rather have??

Capital Punishment.. in which you WILL be killed STRAIGHT away.

Or.. LIFE in Prison until the DAY YOU DIE.

(I know you obviously can't choose in real life but lets just say if YOU could make a choice out of one or the other which would you choose)

And Why?

Beastie 07-10-2010 06:28 PM

I would rather have LIFE in Prison.

To be honest. I don't know what Prison is like. I could be naive to choosing this option. It COULD be easier just to have a quick death.

However.. I would risk going to prison. To be honest.. I think I could possibly be strong enough and last inside a room with only 4 walls. The thing that would scare me the most is the people. If I got beat up and that. This is a risk I would be willing to take.

Jack_ 07-10-2010 06:29 PM

Life - it means they have to suffer more. Of course not in the modern prisons, it's too cushy. I mean a real prison, with no luxuries whatsoever. And capital punishment doesn't solve anything, it just promotes violence/torture/murder. I find it laughable that anyone would condone that sort of thing, especially when it comes to promoting it to children.

Beastie 07-10-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 3832183)
Life - it means they have to suffer more. Of course not in the modern prisons, it's too cushy. I mean a real prison, with no luxuries whatsoever. And capital punishment doesn't solve anything, it just promotes violence/torture/murder. I find it laughable that anyone would condone that sort of thing, especially when it comes to promoting it to children.

READ the question.

It is about if YOU had commited a crime.. and got convicted BUT you was given the option..

So Jack.. would you choose to die straight away or live in Jail for life. The question is about YOU.

Mystic Mock 07-10-2010 06:31 PM

capital punishment because the criminals didnt show mercy to the victims, so why should we show mercy to the criminals? sorry i read the question wrong i would want prison if i was a criminal because you get xbox and playstation.

InOne 07-10-2010 06:33 PM

It all depends. If I didn't have a Conscience, I wouldn't care anyway and would just chill in jail. But if I felt remorse and it would eat away at me for the rest of my living days, then death.

Jordan. 07-10-2010 06:34 PM

Id rather just die. :shocked:

Niall 07-10-2010 06:35 PM

I would choose life in prison. I am absolutely petrified of death. I couldn't just choose to die. At least with life in prison my life would be lived out normally-ish rather than being killed off.

Also there would be a chance of parole in prison (or is that not allowed here?) which would mean I could return to the normal world.

MissKittyFantastico 07-10-2010 06:35 PM

If I'd done something THAT bad then I would take the life imprisonment and deal with it.

Lucy. 07-10-2010 06:36 PM

Life in prison. If I murdered someone I should have to deal with it.

Beastie 07-10-2010 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=Me!;3832201]I would choose life in prison. I am absolutely petrified of death. I couldn't just choose to die. At least with life in prison my life would be lived out normally-ish rather than being killed off.

Also there would be a chance of parole in prison (or is that not allowed here?) which would mean I could return to the normal world.[/QUOTE]

No. READ the question again! :hugesmile:

Sorry to be harsh!

Jack_ 07-10-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 3832186)
READ the question.

It is about if YOU had commited a crime.. and got convicted BUT you was given the option..

So Jack.. would you choose to die straight away or live in Jail for life. The question is about YOU.

Oh, sorry, I just read the title and skimmed the OP.

I guess I'd chose life inprisonment. I was going to pick capital punishment but then I remembered that I'm absolutely petrified of death, and it would a terrible ordeal. On the other hand I'd be absolutely petrified of the people inside prison, but I'd much rather be alive than dead. I don't think I could deal with the thought of leaving my family behind either [well, in the sense that I'd died anyway].

Niall 07-10-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 3832206)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Me! (Post 3832201)
I would choose life in prison. I am absolutely petrified of death. I couldn't just choose to die. At least with life in prison my life would be lived out normally-ish rather than being killed off.

Also there would be a chance of parole in prison (or is that not allowed here?) which would mean I could return to the normal world.

No. READ the question again! :hugesmile:

Sorry to be harsh!

Ah ok. :spin:

Well then I still pick prison lol!

setanta 07-10-2010 08:13 PM

Life cuz I've obviously been wrongly imprisoned and need time to hatch a plan for a jailbreak.

ILoveTRW 07-10-2010 08:33 PM

Life in prison because id be out within 10 months

Kazanne 07-10-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveTRW (Post 3832507)
Life in prison because id be out within 10 months

That is similar to what i was going to post.

Mystic Mock 07-10-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW (Post 3832507)
Life in prison because id be out within 10 months

more like a day.:laugh:

Angus 07-10-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast (Post 3832180)
I would rather have LIFE in Prison.

To be honest. I don't know what Prison is like. I could be naive to choosing this option. It COULD be easier just to have a quick death.

However.. I would risk going to prison. To be honest.. I think I could possibly be strong enough and last inside a room with only 4 walls. The thing that would scare me the most is the people. If I got beat up and that. This is a risk I would be willing to take.

Lol, I thought at first this thread was about which punishment I would rather have for a paedophile or murderer.

If I had to choose for MYSELF then I think it would be capital punishment, something quick and humane, assuming I had done something terrible enough to deserve it. I really couldn't imagine spending a week in jail, never mind years and years - I would become a basket case. Besides I'd be doing the country a favour as it would only cost them the price of an injection! A kind of payback to society.

Angus 07-10-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedward fever (Post 3832188)
capital punishment because the criminals didnt show mercy to the victims, so why should we show mercy to the criminals? sorry i read the question wrong i would want prison if i was a criminal because you get xbox and playstation.

You can also continue your studies and gain a degree or two, or learn a language, take up art classes, write several novels, etc etc - in fact it could be the best thing that ever happened to you:laugh:

GypsyGoth 07-10-2010 10:06 PM

I clicked Capital Punishment, well I didn't read the question :blush: I thought this was about what we would do with criminals.

MTVN 07-10-2010 10:11 PM

I have an absolute fear of dying so I didnt pick capital punishment although I've also wondered whether life would really be worth living when you know you'll be behind bars for the rest of your life.

Mystic Mock 07-10-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 3832688)
I clicked Capital Punishment, well I didn't read the question :blush: I thought this was about what we would do with criminals.

i thought the same thing.

Kazanne 07-10-2010 10:17 PM

Although I said I would take life in prison,I was being flippant,which i shouldn't have been ,so thinking about it were i ever to murder anyone,I dont think I could live with myself so therefore I would go with capital punishment or do it myself,but it would have to be lethal injection,I dont want any pain!!as I really dont know how people can live with themselves after taking anothers life especially a child,how could you walk arounnd smiling,laughing and enjoying life knowing you have snuffed someone elses out?

MTVN 07-10-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3832704)
Although I said I would take life in prison,I was being flippant,which i shouldn't have been ,so thinking about it were i ever to murder anyone,I dont think I could live with myself so therefore I would go with capital punishment or do it myself,but it would have to be lethal injection,I dont want any pain!!as I really dont know how people can live with themselves after taking anothers life especially a child,how could you walk arounnd smiling,laughing and enjoying life knowing you have snuffed someone elses out?

The OP never says you've been charged with murder though, I think the reason you've been arrested is supposed to be irrelevant tbh.

AJ. 07-10-2010 10:58 PM

Wow didn't think so many people would choose capital punishment. Capital punishment is pretty disgusting imo no matter what the crime, what happened to two wrongs don't make a right? I don't think any rationally thinking man should be able to choose whether someone else lives or dies.

lostalex 08-10-2010 09:39 AM

If i was innocent of the crime i was being accused of, i'd prefer life in prison, so i'd have time to try and exonerate myself.

If i was guilty of such a crime, i'd prefer the death penalty. I'd obviously have serious psychological issues to be capable of such crimes, and would prefer to be put to death, so that i couldn't harm anyone else.

Tom 08-10-2010 10:36 AM

A lot of people who commit murders are psychopathic and feel no remorse so having them spend their life in prison is just a waste of resources. but on the other hand if capital punishment was legalised, people who want to commit suicide would abuse it and could lead to more murders

Lee. 08-10-2010 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3832925)
If i was innocent of the crime i was being accused of, i'd prefer life in prison, so i'd have time to try and exonerate myself.

If i was guilty of such a crime, i'd prefer the death penalty. I'd obviously have serious psychological issues to be capable of such crimes, and would prefer to be put to death, so that i couldn't harm anyone else.

Yeah, this is exactly how I feel..

Niamh. 08-10-2010 11:17 AM

Life in prison as long as Life was actually LIFE as in until you are dead.

lostalex 08-10-2010 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeejayAJ (Post 3832765)
Wow didn't think so many people would choose capital punishment. Capital punishment is pretty disgusting imo no matter what the crime, what happened to two wrongs don't make a right? I don't think any rationally thinking man should be able to choose whether someone else lives or dies.

isn't that what doctors do everyday?

Some would argue that no man CAN choose whether a man lives or dies. Some would say that decision is made by a higher power. Whether by bullet or scalpel, does any man really decide who lives and dies?

Let's get deep. :P

Some would say no matter the means or circumstances, what IS was meant to be.

Some would say, who are we to presume we have any say in it whatsoever?

Perhaps what happens is exactly what was meant to happen.

M X 08-10-2010 12:00 PM

Life, because that way you have to deal with what you've done. Capital punishment just gives people an easy way out.

joeysteele 08-10-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 3832194)
It all depends. If I didn't have a Conscience, I wouldn't care anyway and would just chill in jail. But if I felt remorse and it would eat away at me for the rest of my living days, then death.

Good point.

I wonder though what the response would have been on here had this question been, should capital punshment or a life sentence be the maximum penalty in the UK for others not ourselves.

lostalex 08-10-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 3833035)
Good point.

I wonder though what the response would have been on here had this question been, should capital punshment or a life sentence be the maximum penalty in the UK for others not ourselves.


wouldn't it be interesting if they chose to have more compasion for others than they'd have for themselves.

i think it's incredibly self-serving and self-righteous when people try to defend child molestors and murders, because i think showing mercy is very self-righteous.

A lot of british people seem to think that by showing mercy to horrible people, it means that THEY themselves are better people. They pardon horrible people in an attempt to seem more merciful themselves. it's so self-serving, and shows that they have no compassion at all for the actual victims of crimes.

It's so self righteous, it's sickening.

Tom 08-10-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 3833030)
Life, because that way you have to deal with what you've done. Capital punishment just gives people an easy way out.

But some people can't feel bad for what they've done because of their mental make up

lostalex 08-10-2010 12:34 PM

Some people are animals. They have no respect for anything or anyone but themselves. There are true sociopaths. Destroying them is an act of mercy.

imo.

Lee. 08-10-2010 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3833056)
wouldn't it be interesting if they chose to have more compasion for others than they'd have for themselves.

i think it's incredibly self-serving and self-righteous when people try to defend child molestors and murders, because i think showing mercy is very self-righteous.

A lot of british people seem to think that by showing mercy to horrible people, it means that THEY themselves are better people. They pardon horrible people in an attempt to seem more merciful themselves. it's so self-serving, and shows that they have no compassion at all for the actual victims of crimes.

It's so self righteous, it's sickening.

This is so true...

You talk sense :)

setanta 08-10-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3833056)
wouldn't it be interesting if they chose to have more compasion for others than they'd have for themselves.

i think it's incredibly self-serving and self-righteous when people try to defend child molestors and murders, because i think showing mercy is very self-righteous.

A lot of british people seem to think that by showing mercy to horrible people, it means that THEY themselves are better people. They pardon horrible people in an attempt to seem more merciful themselves. it's so self-serving, and shows that they have no compassion at all for the actual victims of crimes.

It's so self righteous, it's sickening.

Again, it has nothing to do with compassion or mercy - the law has a responsibility to protect people from themselves sometimes because, in my opinion anyway, killing another human being, whether they're beyond help or not, never changes anything and only adds to the collective fear and anger that a society feels.

lostalex 08-10-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta (Post 3833096)
Again, it has nothing to do with compassion or mercy - the law has a responsibility to protect people from themselves sometimes because, in my opinion anyway, killing another human being, whether they're beyond help or not, never changes anything and only adds to the collective fear and anger that a society feels.

i think there are 2 major mistakes you make in your opinion.

1st mistake - that keeping someone alive is the default. Being alive is not a default, in fact the vast majority of life on this planet is dead, so death is the default, not life.

2nd mistake - Assuming that any kind of social or governmental program can "reform" anyone. where is the research for this reformation? is there any kind of program on the planet that has shown any significant success rate in reforming criminals??? no thre isn't. infact in every ingle country, from canada to new zealand, no country has shown any truelly sucessful rehabilitation program what we see in every country, is that criminals go on to commit more crimes.

there is NO SUCH THING as REHABILITATION. it doesn't exist.

i am a man of science, and there is no science that supports rehabilitation. IT DOESN'T WORK.

All of the research done about crime around the world shows that no program of rehabilitation has worked. Criminals tend to remain criminals, forever.

Niamh. 08-10-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3833111)
i think there are 2 major mistakes you make in your opinion.

1st mistake - that keeping someone alive is the default. Being alive is not a default, in fact the vast majority of life on this planet is dead, so death is the default, not life.

2nd mistake - Assuming that any kind of social or governmental program can "reform" anyone. where is the research for this reformation? is there any kind of program on the planet that has shown any significant success rate in reforming criminals??? no thre isn't. infact in every ingle country, from canada to new zealand, no country has shown any truelly sucessful rehabilitation program what we see in every country, is that criminals go on to commit more crimes.

there is NO SUCH THING as REHABILITATION. it doesn't exist.

i am a man of science, and there is no science that supports rehabilitation. IT DOESN'T WORK.

I agree with this. I mean I'm all for trying to reform thieves etc. But murderers and paedophiles? No, No, No, as I have said in that other thread the only way of testing if this rehabilitation works is by putting these people back into society and risking innocent people and that to me is unacceptable. Either lock them up and throw away the key or capital punishment.

setanta 08-10-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3833111)
i think there are 2 major mistakes you make in your opinion.

1st mistake - that keeping someone alive is the default. Being alive is not a default, in fact the vast majority of life on this planet is dead, so death is the default, not life.

2nd mistake - Assuming that any kind of social or governmental program can "reform" anyone. where is the research for this reformation? is there any kind of program on the planet that has shown any significant success rate in reforming criminals??? no thre isn't. infact in every ingle country, from canada to new zealand, no country has shown any truelly sucessful rehabilitation program what we see in every country, is that criminals go on to commit more crimes.

there is NO SUCH THING as REHABILITATION. it doesn't exist.

i am a man of science, and there is no science that supports rehabilitation. IT DOESN'T WORK.

I'm not talking about the criminal here: I'm talking about society in general and the repercussions the lawful killing of another human being can have on it. It never relieves the pain. Like I said before, the law is there to protect everyone and once you allow death and killing into your heart, well then you learn to devalue life. It's the brutalizing effect.

As for no rehabilitation - I don't believe that at all.


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