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MTVN 30-08-2011 01:07 AM

ITV to make a joint bid for Endemol?
 
Just heard them talk about this on the radio, the Telegraph is running this story tomorrow apparently, couldn't find on their site but it's mentioned here

Quote:

ITV could form a joint venture with Silvio Berlusconi's Mediaset to buy Endemol, the debt-ridden TV production company behind 'Big Brother'. The deal is one of a number of options being discussed by Mediaset.
Strange story if true, dunno why those two companies would be jointly making a bid, doesn't bode well for BB's future on 5

Kerry 30-08-2011 01:12 AM

Doesn't really bode well for BB by the sounds of it. Too many fingers in pies and all that

GypsyGoth 30-08-2011 01:14 AM

I hate Silvio Berlusconi.

CharlieO 30-08-2011 01:21 AM

It might not change anything, ITV can't take all their shows. It may be purely financial.

Patrick 30-08-2011 01:30 AM

Oh My Days. :shocked:

Callum 30-08-2011 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 4516400)
I hate Silvio Berlusconi.

[2]

Joelle. 30-08-2011 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 4516400)
I hate Silvio Berlusconi.

[3] Hes a chauvanistic pig as well. :bored:

Patrick 30-08-2011 02:01 AM

My future is ruined.

They'll axe Big Brother and when they axe Big Brother then there won't be a Series 15 - and if there isn't a BB15 then I won't be able to go on the show at all.

This is my whole life down the ******ing drain.

Now I'm going to have to like, get a job and do well in school and sh*t!

keithafc 30-08-2011 02:15 AM

Will axe Big Brother if they get Endemol unless people would be happy if it is stuck on ITV2.

CharlieO 30-08-2011 02:36 AM

It's a joint venture so it does not necessarily mean BB is affected at all.

joeysteele 30-08-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO (Post 4516603)
It's a joint venture so it does not necessarily mean BB is affected at all.

I agree, it's too early to speculate what may or may not happen, also they haven't reached any deal yet either.

Hopefully BB won't be affected and current contracts and also near planned ones for the future that may already be 'pencilled in' will be fully honoured.

Sawyer 30-08-2011 09:05 AM

I don't understand why all you idiots are jumping on the band wagon insisting this doesn't bode well for BB's future. I don't get it. At the end of the day, Endemol is a business, with Big Brother being their most popular and export, ITV wouldn't just cut it because they don't like it. Besides which, there is no information to suggest anything would happen to BB, Deal or No Deal or any other gameshow. It's ridiculous assumption based on no real evidence.

Where does it say Big Brother will be affected. It's simply a buy-out of a debt ridden company which would actually do nothing but good for the company (and even possibly Big Brother).

joeysteele 30-08-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathews220 (Post 4516802)
I don't understand why all you idiots are jumping on the band wagon insisting this doesn't bode well for BB's future. I don't get it. At the end of the day, Endemol is a business, with Big Brother being their most popular and export, ITV wouldn't just cut it because they don't like it. Besides which, there is no information to suggest anything would happen to BB, Deal or No Deal or any other gameshow. It's ridiculous assumption based on no real evidence.

Where does it say Big Brother will be affected. It's simply a buy-out of a debt ridden company which would actually do nothing but good for the company (and even possibly Big Brother).

Absolutely right.

Gillian-73 30-08-2011 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO (Post 4516420)
It might not change anything, ITV can't take all their shows. It may be purely financial.

Indeed! come dine with me is an itv show but airs on another channel, channel 4 in this case.

Gillian-73 30-08-2011 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathews220 (Post 4516802)
I don't understand why all you idiots are jumping on the band wagon insisting this doesn't bode well for BB's future. I don't get it. At the end of the day, Endemol is a business, with Big Brother being their most popular and export, ITV wouldn't just cut it because they don't like it. Besides which, there is no information to suggest anything would happen to BB, Deal or No Deal or any other gameshow. It's ridiculous assumption based on no real evidence.

Where does it say Big Brother will be affected. It's simply a buy-out of a debt ridden company which would actually do nothing but good for the company (and even possibly Big Brother).

Agreed!

MTVN 30-08-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathews220 (Post 4516802)
I don't understand why all you idiots are jumping on the band wagon insisting this doesn't bode well for BB's future. I don't get it. At the end of the day, Endemol is a business, with Big Brother being their most popular and export, ITV wouldn't just cut it because they don't like it. Besides which, there is no information to suggest anything would happen to BB, Deal or No Deal or any other gameshow. It's ridiculous assumption based on no real evidence.

Where does it say Big Brother will be affected. It's simply a buy-out of a debt ridden company which would actually do nothing but good for the company (and even possibly Big Brother).

It's troubling news because it shows how much trouble the company is in and it's future is going to be a turbulent and unstable one. I believe the contract with Channel 5 is only for 2 years with an option of increasing it for 5, it's possible that new owners of Endemol will be far less inclined to increase that contract; it's a show that most in the mainstream media considered dead in the water and they might want to focus on other shows more, in recent years Deal or no Deal has proven more successful than BB.

And don't call people idiots.

jsd 30-08-2011 12:15 PM

ITV make shows for BBC, etc. so I doubt they'd have a problem doing it for C5 if it made money

CaudleHalbard 30-08-2011 01:09 PM

Surely BB is one of Endemol's biggest earners?

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4516514)
My future is ruined.

They'll axe Big Brother and when they axe Big Brother then there won't be a Series 15 - and if there isn't a BB15 then I won't be able to go on the show at all.

This is my whole life down the ******ing drain.

Now I'm going to have to like, get a job and do well in school and sh*t!

Endemol can't axe Big Brother :D, only C5.

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4516834)
It's troubling news because it shows how much trouble the company is in and it's future is going to be a turbulent and unstable one. I believe the contract with Channel 5 is only for 2 years with an option of increasing it for 5, it's possible that new owners of Endemol will be far less inclined to increase that contract; it's a show that most in the mainstream media considered dead in the water and they might want to focus on other shows more, in recent years Deal or no Deal has proven more successful than BB.

And don't call people idiots.

BB is C5's till 2015 unless C5 axe it next year.

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 01:26 PM

ITV buying Endemol wouldn't affect BB.

Marc 30-08-2011 01:27 PM

They shouldn't have made this series so bad :idc: if it was a success then BB would be kept on. Simple.

Patrick 30-08-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc. (Post 4517124)
They shouldn't have made this series so bad :idc: if it was a success then BB would be kept on. Simple.

This series is their most successful since 2008?

Pronshi 30-08-2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4516514)
My future is ruined.

They'll axe Big Brother and when they axe Big Brother then there won't be a Series 15 - and if there isn't a BB15 then I won't be able to go on the show at all.

This is my whole life down the ******ing drain.

Now I'm going to have to like, get a job and do well in school and sh*t!


so strange thats what i thought :L

Black Dagger 30-08-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4516514)
My future is ruined.

They'll axe Big Brother and when they axe Big Brother then there won't be a Series 15 - and if there isn't a BB15 then I won't be able to go on the show at all.

This is my whole life down the ******ing drain.

Now I'm going to have to like, get a job and do well in school and sh*t!

If your life is Big Brother and you feel that you don't have to get a job because you'll keep auditioning for it makes me worry for you.

MTVN 30-08-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalSid (Post 4517117)
BB is C5's till 2015 unless C5 axe it next year.

The contract is 2 years and Endemol only actually have the house until 2013, I don't see how Channel 5 could force them to continue it until 2015 is Endemol were against the idea

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4517143)
The contract is 2 years and Endemol only actually have the house until 2013, I don't see how Channel 5 could force them to continue it until 2015 is Endemol were against the idea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_contract

MTVN 30-08-2011 05:05 PM

Wow detailed reply. Do you actually have any details of the contract, I've only ever seen Channel 5 confirm that it is for 2 years

CharlieO 30-08-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 4517127)
This series is their most successful since 2008?

It is no more successful than the last few series on 4 and the only slight rise I'd because of giving it a chance on a new channel (remember this is cbb not normal BB), it has gained no substantial amount of new viewers and is therefore a sinking ship. I am willing to bet BB12 rating will drop rapidly and I will admit i was wrong if it doesn't but I doubt it will.

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4517475)
Wow detailed reply. Do you actually have any details of the contract, I've only ever seen Channel 5 confirm that it is for 2 years

Endemol can't stop doing BB before 2015 if C5 pick up the option unless Endemol buy them out of the contract.

Tom 30-08-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalSid (Post 4517484)
Endemol can't stop doing BB before 2015 if C5 pick up the option unless Endemol buy them out of the contract.

The 5 year deal was just speculation before the official announcement of 2 years

Whether or not ITV buy Endemol it will have no impact on Big Brother at all. ITV make plenty of shows for other channels. If anything it boosts comeback chances on ITV2 if Channel 5 decide they dont want it anymore

MTVN 30-08-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4517521)
The 5 year deal was just speculation before the official announcement of 2 years

Whether or not ITV buy Endemol it will have no impact on Big Brother at all. ITV make plenty of shows for other channels. If anything it boosts comeback chances on ITV2 if Channel 5 decide they dont want it anymore

Yeah I thought that was the case

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4517521)
The 5 year deal was just speculation before the official announcement of 2 years

Whether or not ITV buy Endemol it will have no impact on Big Brother at all. ITV make plenty of shows for other channels. If anything it boosts comeback chances on ITV2 if Channel 5 decide they dont want it anymore

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...5-to-sign-deal

MTVN 30-08-2011 06:22 PM

The first link was an unconfirmed report before the deal had been completed, the second only refers to it as a 2 year deal not a 5 year one

Also in Channel 5's official confirmation of the deal it is only a two year contract mentioned - http://www.channel5.com/articles/big...s-to-channel-5

Lol you've now removed that second link

Tom 30-08-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalSid (Post 4517559)

Yeah you've just confirmed my point with that instead of backing up your own

It was on March 31st before the official announcement

Nowhere does it say anything about 2 years and optional 3 years

Channel 5 won't want it after next year, they're only using it to get a new audience watching C5. They have zero commitment to it and long term viewer interest just isn't there anymore

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4517568)
The first link was an unconfirmed report before the deal had been completed, the second only refers to it as a 2 year deal not a 5 year one

Also in Channel 5's official confirmation of the deal it is only a two year contract mentioned - http://www.channel5.com/articles/big...s-to-channel-5

Lol you've now removed that second link


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...turn-this-year

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4517571)
Yeah you've just confirmed my point with that instead of backing up your own

It was on March 31st before the official announcement

Nowhere does it say anything about 2 years and optional 3 years

Channel 5 won't want it after next year, they're only using it to get a new audience watching C5. They have zero commitment to it and long term viewer interest just isn't there anymore

Media Guardian announced the deal before C5, they had inside info:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...turn-this-year
http://www.channel5.com/articles/big...s-to-channel-5

Tom 30-08-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalSid (Post 4517589)

Where in that article does it say about a 5 year deal?

MTVN 30-08-2011 06:49 PM

Err why have you just reposted that link, how the hell does that prove your point, the article says:

Quote:

Big Brother will be back on the small screen this summer after Richard Desmond's Channel 5 finally concluded eight months of negotiations to buy the format from Endemol in a two-year £200m deal.
Nowhere does it make mention of a 5 year deal

Although that link also clearly didn't know all the details anyway as it says the program will start in 2012

I'm not sure what you're not getting about this; it us a 2 year deal they have and you have no reliable sources that contradict that

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 4517596)
Where in that article does it say about a 5 year deal?

First link I posted.

DigitalSid 30-08-2011 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4517602)
Err why have you just reposted that link, how the hell does that prove your point, the article says:



Nowhere does it make mention of a 5 year deal

First link I posted.

Quote:

Although that link also clearly didn't know all the details anyway as it says the program will start in 2012

I'm not sure what you're not getting about this; it us a 2 year deal they have and you have no reliable sources that contradict that
"Only in 2012, would Big Brother return to its traditional schedule"


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