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Angus 27-01-2012 10:35 PM

Will American celebs bother with CBB in future?
 
It's obvious to me there is a massive bias against American housemates - I doubt Ch 5 will be able to attract any big names from across the pond in future when the likes of the gobby, attention seeking, alcoholic depressive Denise can win. She's an even worse winner than Alex Reid and that's saying something:bored:

Smithy 27-01-2012 10:38 PM

Both American housemates made it to the final, even after michael was up for eviction 3 (?) times

yes, total bias against them :|

Black Dagger 27-01-2012 10:40 PM

Well Neil Patrick Harris wants to do it :wink:

Not that he will, but he wanted to xD.

Black Dagger 27-01-2012 10:40 PM

Well Neil Patrick Harris wants to do it :wink:

Not that he will, but he wanted to xD.

Bluerang1 27-01-2012 10:40 PM

They shouldn't but they will. It doesn't matter anyway. As long as they're entertaining.

Liberty4eva 27-01-2012 10:47 PM

If they're desperate enough and the price is right, sure. The price will really go up now that it's quite clear there's a bias against them.

billy123 27-01-2012 10:48 PM

A few people here act like they should win it because they are americans its pathetic they didnt win and didnt deserve to get over it.

Niamh. 27-01-2012 11:36 PM

I think the best housemate should win, regardless of their nationality and tbh some of the truly xenophobic posts I've read here tonight are really disappointing.

Callum 27-01-2012 11:38 PM

This is a fair point. There are a lot of xenophobic people in the UK who discriminate against housemates for their nationalities. They are responsible for how it all turned out tonight. Bet the BNP are pleased too that an American hasn't won the show.

Why is thread allowed to stay open yet mine was closed????

Sophiee 27-01-2012 11:41 PM

I think so. both of the american housemates made the final and survived several evictions!

InOne 27-01-2012 11:41 PM

This BB seems a really "British winner for a British show" mentality, it's ridiculous.

Jack_ 27-01-2012 11:44 PM

Why are all the xenophobia threads being closed? Bit pathetic...people are entitled to their opinion. Closing the threads only adds fuel to the fire or however the saying goes...

michael21 27-01-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Angus (Post 4916368)
It's obvious to me there is a massive bias against American housemates - I doubt Ch 5 will be able to attract any big names from across the pond in future when the likes of the gobby, attention seeking, alcoholic depressive Denise can win. She's an even worse winner than Alex Reid and that's saying something:bored:

it does not matter who win it how much you get paid

Visage 27-01-2012 11:45 PM

I don't think it's been bias at all.

It is possible that some people just don't like Michael or the twins.

Other Americans have been in the show and not won, yet they still manage to find get some in this series.

Callum 27-01-2012 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visage (Post 4916747)
I don't think it's been bias at all.

It is possible that some people just don't like Michael or the twins.

Other Americans have been in the show and not won, yet they still manage to find get some in this series.

The comments on Facebook prove that there are a lot of xenophobic people in the UK who will never allow an American housemate to win this show.

MTVN 27-01-2012 11:49 PM

I hope so, they've given some great housemates over the years. I dunno, I feel this series we have seen anti-Americanism on a larger scaled, I don't seem to remember it being present against Coolio, Stephen Baldwin etc. but now it seems their nationality is something to be held against them

King Gizzard 27-01-2012 11:50 PM

Yes, I don't think they'd even do one ounce of research into what's happened before

Visage 27-01-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callum (Post 4916769)
The comments on Facebook prove that there are a lot of xenophobic people in the UK who will never allow an American housemate to win this show.

I don't know face book, I'm just going on what I see on here.

However that just sounds daft, but I can't really comment because I don't read what's on face book.

Monkey Slut 27-01-2012 11:52 PM

If housemates are entertaining then I don't mind where they're from. I wouldn't say "no more Irish or Welsh housemates" because Gareth and Georgia were boring. I wouldn't like people from other countries to not want to get involved because of the xenophobia from the public during this series though.

Niamh. 27-01-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Slut (Post 4916793)
If housemates are entertaining then I don't mind where they're from. I wouldn't say "no more Irish or Welsh housemates" because Gareth and Georgia were boring. I wouldn't like people from other countries to not want to get involved because of the xenophobia from the public during this series though.

yes exactly. People should be treated as individuals, nationality shouldn't even come into it.

King Gizzard 27-01-2012 11:58 PM

It's just the new facebook culture. It's probably always been like this, we've just never had chance to see it cause social media and peoples views were never heard except the few comments the producers let to air on BBBM/BBLB etc

Wildcat! 27-01-2012 11:59 PM

Xenophobia is huge here. But the main problem is, a lot of you people dont want to accept it. i have been making the point here forever, but some of you are quick to brush it under the carpet, because no way are the uk people like that right? . When you accept that its there, you can make progress. Americans also have their issues with it, but they dont try to brush it off, because its embarrassing.

But after, this series, pretty hard to pretend it doesnt exist. Because even after some of what I have seen in the past, I have been TRUlly shocked with stuff Ive read tonight. I couldnt really comment BEing quite speechless.

michael21 27-01-2012 11:59 PM

i don't no what all the fuss is about you don't have to be British to vote

David R 28-01-2012 12:01 AM

The racism (and yes in my eyes it is total racism) towards the americans we have seen on this show both by the housemates and also on some of the discussions on BOTS I could see less of them willing to come over to be on the show.

Jack_ 28-01-2012 12:03 AM

The ironic thing about all of it is that these xenophobic ***** are not welcome in this country. We are a multicultural society and anybody that opposes that or thinks it is acceptable to discriminate against anyone for any reason whatsoever can **** right off.

US Nacho 28-01-2012 12:04 AM

I'm American, and I don't feel like there's a bias towards American houseguests. The twins were just awful human beings (but great Television, good job keeping them in til the end and voting them out first on the finale) and I don't quite understand why Michael was booed as much as he was, but I don't think he should have won. I guess the same people that thought Denise would make a good winner, were the ones that didn't like Michael. I feel like if there's ever an American housemate that deserves to win and doesn't, then you might be able to make this argument, but until then, I say keep chucking them in. I at least appreciate seeing celebrities that I know who they are.

Callum 28-01-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David R (Post 4916844)
The racism (and yes in my eyes it is total racism) towards the americans we have seen on this show both by the housemates and also on some of the discussions on BOTS I could see less of them willing to come over to be on the show.

It's more apparant now than it ever has been before. I wouldn't blame the Americans for never wanting to take part in CBB ever again, a lot of the narrow minded public will hate them regardless of their personality.

Wildcat! 28-01-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 4916850)
The ironic thing about all of it is that these xenophobic ***** are not welcome in this country. We are a multicultural society and anybody that opposes that or thinks it is acceptable to discriminate against anyone for any reason whatsoever can **** right off.

You making it sound like its imported. Its not. Its a local thing, it comes from right here.

Niamh. 28-01-2012 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat! (Post 4916831)
Xenophobia is huge here. But the main problem is, a lot of you people dont want to accept it. i have been making the point here forever, but some of you are quick to brush it under the carpet, because no way are the uk people like that right? . When you accept that its there, you can make progress. Americans also have their issues with it, but they dont try to brush it off, because its embarrassing.

But after, this series, pretty hard to pretend it doesnt exist. Because even after some of what I have seen in the past, I have been TRUlly shocked with stuff Ive read tonight. I couldnt really comment BEing quite speechless.

Me too, I can't believe some of the things I've read tonight :bored:

Jack_ 28-01-2012 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat! (Post 4916868)
You making it sound like its imported. Its not. Its a local thing, it comes from right here.

Not entirely sure what you mean by that.

I know it exists all around the world, I just mean that in terms of it in our country...it isn't welcome here.

MTVN 28-01-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by US Nacho (Post 4916860)
I'm American, and I don't feel like there's a bias towards American houseguests. The twins were just awful human beings (but great Television, good job keeping them in til the end and voting them out first on the finale) and I don't quite understand why Michael was booed as much as he was, but I don't think he should have won. I guess the same people that thought Denise would make a good winner, were the ones that didn't like Michael. I feel like if there's ever an American housemate that deserves to win and doesn't, then you might be able to make this argument, but until then, I say keep chucking them in. I at least appreciate seeing celebrities that I know who they are.

Hmm I don't mind if people don't like the Twins because of their personalities but I've seen a lot of people who use their nationality against them, and this idea that Denise, Gareth and Frankie being the top 3 is somehow a victory for Britain(!) has also been said tonight, which is also ridiculous

US Nacho 28-01-2012 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David R (Post 4916844)
The racism (and yes in my eyes it is total racism) towards the americans we have seen on this show both by the housemates and also on some of the discussions on BOTS I could see less of them willing to come over to be on the show.

Oh come on, it was PAINFULLY obvious that neither the twins or Michael had the slightest clue what they were doing when they went into the house. If you ever get a celebrity from America that actually knows the first thing about the format of the show or the culture surrounding it, then maybe you might have a point. But I'd imagine all they hear about the offer is "You get to go to England for 3 weeks and live in a house with other celebrities and be filmed 24/7 and get paid x amount of money. Anything beyond that is going to be lost on practically anyone from America, celebrity or not.

By the way, American is not a race. :hugesmile:

David R 28-01-2012 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callum (Post 4916865)
It's more apparant now than it ever has been before. I wouldn't blame the Americans for never wanting to take part in CBB ever again, a lot of the narrow minded public will hate them regardless of their personality.

It really was so apparent especially after the pants incident (a even early on with the fighting with Micheal) that this anti american sentiment started to brew and it almost became a 'vote for a british winner or your a trator to your country' competition.

Denise winning reinforces that its right to treat people who arn't the same as you exactly as how YOU please which very insular. Her saying 'well this is how we do it where I'm from' is ridiculous, you should try and accommodate other peoples cultures and personalities. Most other housemates managed it!

billy123 28-01-2012 12:13 AM

Wheres all these Xenophobic posts? i presume lots of bans have been handed out for it?
unless of course sour grapes are affecting some peoples judgement.

The twins were bitches i didnt like them at all michael was a good housemate who finished ahead of most people in the house but was a bit grumpy which cost him votes and i wouldnt have voted for him.
does that make me a Xenophobe?

some of the slapped arse attitudes on here have been as disgusting as some of the accusations thrown around on here tonight.

Visage 28-01-2012 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 4916908)
Wheres all these Xenophobic posts?

I keep reading claims of it happening, I just haven't found any evidence so far..:laugh:

King Gizzard 28-01-2012 12:17 AM

facebook mainly, where the intellectually challenged dwell because they don't have the know how to sign up to a forum

LessThanMe 28-01-2012 12:21 AM

Lets hope they do. They should. These planks use them as a draw then paint them as villains. A big 2 fingers would be nice... then see how you do.

The favourites were obvious from day 1. Natalie got a fun task and Denise Welch was the final "big" arrival... (not the Kill Bill, Resevoir Dogs actor) the Corrie, loose women alchy. Nuff said.

David R 28-01-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by US Nacho (Post 4916896)
Oh come on, it was PAINFULLY obvious that neither the twins or Michael had the slightest clue what they were doing when they went into the house. If you ever get a celebrity from America that actually knows the first thing about the format of the show or the culture surrounding it, then maybe you might have a point. But I'd imagine all they hear about the offer is "You get to go to England for 3 weeks and live in a house with other celebrities and be filmed 24/7 and get paid x amount of money. Anything beyond that is going to be lost on practically anyone from America, celebrity or not.

By the way, American is not a race. :hugesmile:

All the more reason that the British housemates should be good hosts and accomodate the american personalities. The format wasnt the problem for them, it was the few insular housemates who would not except that everyone isn't like their mates down the local street or pub! Just because its OK to pull your mates pants down doesnt mean is OK to do that with everyone you have a few drinks with!

American isn't a race in the same way British isn't a race (do you know how many times this island has been invaded!) but its still considered racism when you treat foreigners in an unaccommodating way.

LessThanMe 28-01-2012 12:22 AM

*Dont i meant obviously

Callum 28-01-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David R (Post 4916907)
It really was so apparent especially after the pants incident (a even early on with the fighting with Micheal) that this anti american sentiment started to brew and it almost became a 'vote for a british winner or your a trator to your country' competition.

Denise winning reinforces that its right to treat people who arn't the same as you exactly as how YOU please which very insular. Her saying 'well this is how we do it where I'm from' is ridiculous, you should try and accommodate other peoples cultures and personalities. Most other housemates managed it!

Yes 100%. People were quick to defend Denise in pantsgate because of her British nature and that's when I thought she could win this. You're totally right, it did become like that and there were people on Facebook saying similar things like A vote for Denise is a vote for Britain etc. It made me feel sick. The comments only got worse from then on, accusations left right and centre of American viewers rigging the votes by using false IP addresses. People could not stomach the thought of a British person voting to save the Americans. It was utterly uncomprehensible that a person of British nationality would vote for an American.

So true and I can only see it getting worse from now on sadly. There are way too many narrow minded people in the UK who hold the view that only a British housemate should win.


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