Julie Goodyear - The biggest Gameplayer ??
 

I've been watching Julie Goodyear since she entered the CBB House and on whole have been quite entertained by her up to tonight. But when she told Danica that it was absolutely OK to "Rinse" punters out of their hard earned cash and admitted she cashed in on her own fame to accept gifts from strangers (which is not technically quite the same thing), I realised that Julie is indeed playing a game as she has tried to endear herself to nearly all the HM. I think she is playing a massive game, she has had no conflict with anyone, she is trying to be the favourite granny of the house. All of her conversations with other HM end with her supporting them regardless of what they have said or done. She wants to be all things to everybody.

I'm convinced now she is totally fake not being real and the sooner somebody in that house stands up to her the better. Because now watching her she is making me cringe...!!!

Can anyone else see this or am I being too judgemental.

Oh no ,you are spot on right,but why cant the hm8s see it? if I were in there after her fuming at Jasmine following task, I would have thought "WTF ? She told Jasmine she loved her, was watching her back, was her adopted Mother,and now shes raving at the plasma ?"
Sad to say shes there until the finals, but i hope this week the crwod shout"Get julie out" only then will the others started to think ,but they wont, it will be " Get ... one of the girls " out

I agree with both two posts above, she's definitely changed and I can see now. She's all for herself and has even got coleen tricked now, so julie's also playing a dirty game

I love her. Although I think shes dramatic about nominations.

But with reading things about her in newspapers etc for several years this is the REAL Julie coming out, hated by journos ,fellow actors the country over

I've gone off her recently becuase she's been a bit two faced. Always telling people what they want to hear to their face then off bitching about it with other people.

She doesnt care about nominations, notice she never looks directly at the camera, always eyes down...cos she is a liar...

The "Diva" finally coming out that has been portrayed by the media

Dead right !!

Thanks Chuff , I'm happy other people can see this as well, not sure if there's anyone in the House who can see this. Because she has been quite clever to have these conversations privately with the individual HM.

She got caught out with Jasmine and Rhian as she couldn't have forseen the trolley dash. But then it was too late as Jasmine was evicted and she could focus on keeping Rhian sweet.

I just hope she gets rumbled and confronted by somebody because nobody is that "nice"....

I don't see her that way at all, she is if anything trying to get on with just about everyone,that is impossible to do really and maybe she will see that before the series ends and maybe she won't.
As to the conversation with Danica, I can believe Julie sees no real harm or wrong as to what Danica does just as some on here don't either while others do.
Julie's okay still with me, for one anyway and I would guess with loads of the voting public too.

they are only there for three weeks...we can see it but from the inside three weeks is not long enough!!

She is driving me mad, I absolutely fake her whole "mother/granny figure" I love everyone act. I've disliked her from day 1 and I find her tedious to watch. I can't believe Colleen has now fallen for the act.

All that rubbish in the diary room tonight was ridiculous, there is no way ANYONE could love everyone in a group of people and not find any fault with anyone. If your going to put on an act at least make it realistic!

Even if I was in the bb house with just my friends, I could still choose one of them to nominate and find reasons if I had to. No one likes everyone equally and no one is such a saint that nothing can be done to annoy them :nono:

You make a fair point she may be just an extraordinarily nice person although that is not the generally accepted view of a large number of people that work with her.

But let's assume she carries on in the same vein, can she fool everyone to the end or more importantly can she convince the viewing public that it's all genuine. Surely some incident will force her true colours to come out. Interesting that she doesn't drink Alcohol in there...!!!

Julie is playing a very clever game, and this has been apparent from day one. She really didn't like Jasmine's mum coming in (before she knew it was Jasmine's mum), and I think felt threatened by another (older?) woman's presence. She is the matriarch of the house, and she knows it. The biggest game player in the house for sure. And her profanities are not big or clever, either!

I can fully take on board what you are saying too, I like Julie but that doesn't mean she hasn't got faults like others have,however I like what I have seen thus far.

I think you could find people who work with others that some will have bad things to say about them and others really good things to say too.
However I guess it is a wait and see thing really,if I saw her do or say anything really offensive to anyone or even about anyone then I would be one of the first to moan at her for doing so.

She is 70 now, she hopefully is a lot wiser than the pressured working days on Corrie, maybe this is the real Julie,as I said in my first post, maybe it isn't but she still has me supporting her anyway.

Naturally I respect your take on her too and if you get proven more right than me as to her I will certainly credit you for that.

She has even now got Coleen onside judging by Coleens comments in the DR. So it looks as if our biggest Gameplayer has got all the HM
Hoodwinked. So she's unlikely to be nominated. But can the viewing public be convinced so easily, she may find that when push comes to shove other bigger HM like Julian, Martin eg are more loved and will beat her in the final vote...!!!

Oh definitely, she is a sneaky cow
telling everyone they are her best friend, and that she knows them inside & out. Playing the bull****, i like everyone and can't nominate act. Walking around like bloody Mother hen, and saying one thing to one housemate, then being a complete hypocrite to what shes said.

Spot on.... she didnt give her a chance. Although she wasnt the only one. She didnt like seeing an older woman coming in and getting comfortably involved with the others. She pulled faces and acted in a very immature way....but it all came down to having her role challenged. She has her feet under the table and she wont be budged until the final because no-one will vote her out.... but eventually we will have the final say...

I think she is the the Alpha Female and the Alpha Male, I mean no one in there will say a bad word to her ... and no one is bitching about her so she really does rule the roost.

And to be honest I can't see it changing, unless she upsets someone or gets caught out being two faced, I think she's home dry. Until
The public vote of course...!!!

I love her, she cracks me up.

Her and Julian are providing some much needed humour. Without them this series would be as nasty as BB13.

Well said. I was reading an interview she gave and she said "in my 25 years on Corrie, I never once had a row with any of my colleagues" If the Julie we are seeing in the house is real, I can well believe that. She seems like someone who just wants peace and to get on with everyone. Commendable really!

Thank you, also Julie has left Corrie and gone back a few times really.
It would then seem odd to me that people not liking working with her would hardly be as overjoyed at each Bet Lynch return to the street as they all appeared to be,if that was really the case.

I agree with you, to me too she seems like she just wants to get on with as many people as she can, (she will say if she doesn't like someone,like that daft task with Jasmine's Mother, which to me was the worst thing BB has done probably).
Like you again, I find that commendable that she sets out to get on with everyone,if that is possible.

And then she is going down.............I hope....what a bitch and they cant see through it.:devil::devil:

Boy'o you got that right,she is such a bitch and they can't see it.....:devil:

They may have been too afraid to speak out,what a bitch she really is...she only tells the HM what they want to hear,thank God she's not my Nan....

Yes she does appear to have an aggressive quality about her, every now and again you can almost detect it in her voice, as it deepens when she utters her usual expletives. I think most of the HM really do not want to wake the Beast...!!!

she nommed danica!!

Re: Julie Goodyear - The biggest Gameplayer ??
 

Big Brother is a game though? with the winner title at the end of it. It's all a matter of how well they play it. It would be quite boring if they didn't see it as a game or play it that way, the only thing that annoys me with some BB housemates is how nasty they play it rather than cleverly.

They are all entitled to nominate whoever they want to though and for whatever reasons, whether it be dislike, trying to get rid of competition, or just clever strategy, it's their decision whether we like it or not, as they are in the house not us and so it is their right of choice.

Julie is witout doubt a big gameplayer but she has now got some competition. Coleen has analized the situation and come up with a lick ass plan to get her to the finals without being nominated again and Prince Lorenzo is kicking it up a notch. In the DR he says Danica is defo a user and abuser but he is allowing her to look like she is sucking him in around the house. He is either building up to soliciting the sympathy vote or he is going to dump her flat on her ass on live telly to get the votes. He must know the British public wont like her after thier reaction to Jasmine. Martin and Julian are now beginning to compete for airtime and its all hotting up but sadly overshadowed by the *****s actions.

I can see why Julie will have nommed Danica, she doesn't have a personal problem with Danica because of what she does as part of her life,she will talk to her and listen to her but it doesn't mean she approves of all her actions.

In the diary room, Julie said to BB she had a big problem finding reasons to nominate other housemates as she felt she got on with near all of them and had no problems with their behaviour as to her.(i can understand and relate to that).
BB then said to Julie, is there behaviour that housemates are maybe doing to other housemates that you don't like,guiding her to make that a reason for nominating.
She spoke to one of the guys, after thinking about how she saw Danica acting towards him and the other one, asked him if he thought he was being played, he said yes, so she has taken that as a reason to nominate Danica.

Nothing really malicious as to the nomination but a reason, as Julie maybe doesn't genuinely like to think of people being played by others.

As for the ppoints that the Corrie cast members may be too afraid to speak out as to not getting on with Julie, if there is any truth they haven't in the past in the first place,I doubt that near totally.
There are and have been, many feisty characters on Corrie from past and present, very few indeed would be likely to hold back if they really had something to say on matters Julie.
As I said, when she has returned to Corrie, the cast have loved her return and said so.

There are always rumours as to people not getting along and at times it happens in all workplaces too but I think we would have heard loads about this from Corrie actors and actresses past and present if it had foundation.
Even the ones who have been out of Corrie a good while with characters killed off have never said anything like this as to Julie.

I have only really heard it from Nina Myskov, whose entire career has been to put people down,belittle them and be a right nasty person to most in shows she has been on, then the spiteful venomous Nolans who likely see Julie as Coleen's biggest threat on CBB.

Until I hear more solid and factual descriptions from the people who did work for 25 years on and off on Corrie with Julie, I will hold on to what I have seen overall myself, someone who is in my view, fairly genuine but with faults/strong opinions and likely a temper like the vast majority of the human race.

I dont think all the Corrie cast would agree with that,lol,didn't she have a bit of a feud going with pat phoenix?

Yes just read it ,Danica who she sat and told was fine in how she earns her living, even went so far as to say she also gets"gifts" all the while Danica was massaging her feet

Yes it's good to finally see some of the other big names in there start to realise they need to start living up to their celebrity, although Julian, Martin and Coleen are funny to watch none of them have really been at the forefront of any of the main story lines. That has been reserved for skanks and planks of the house.

But Julie has kept herself pretty much in the limelight by being a shoulder to cry on or lending a listening ear to younger ones.

I really hope the BB producers move away from the love triangle/square and show us a bit more of the bigger characters in the HL shows.

I still think Julie is playing a nearly faultless game and will be hard to beat...!!!

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Joey this is a long read,but it gives some insight as to her personality.

For Julie Goodyear the episode could have been entitled The Once and Future Queen.

The idea was for a Coronation Street comeback to reclaim her soap crown after a seven-year exile.

It was to be a publicity masterstroke to give the flagging show the shot in the arm it needed to take on EastEnders.

But the big return has been a disaster. The leading lady has exited, suddenly and amid talk of diva-ish behaviour. Her character, the leopardskin-clad Bet Gilroy, is not expected to return.

'She was very high-maintenance, and that has not changed,' said an insider at Granada, which makes the show, this week.

'She thought she could come back with all her usual demands, but no one's got the time or patience to deal with that kind of thing any more.' Another at the company was less diplomatic. 'That woman always was poison,' was one terse verdict.

'She's the most offensive person I've ever worked with, no contest.'

Insiders say that Miss Goodyear, once the undisputed Queen of the Street with 22million tuning in for her exit in 1995, had expected a level of deference from the young cast which was not forthcoming.

When she first joined the show in 1970 as a mini-skirted model she addressed doyennes of the cast Doris Speed and Pat Phoenix as Miss Speed or Miss Phoenix.

By contrast, this time around the 60-year-old was treated like the rest of the cast. She may have finally got the dressing room she wanted after a minor tantrum, but there was no red carpet welcome.

Some were unhappy at her return, particularly those who had clashed with her before.

'People like Bill Roache were polite of course, because that is the way they are,' a source said.

'But there were worries about her and her demands.'

The new stars of the show were not inclined to make a fuss of her. Indeed, 40-a-day Miss Goodyear was astonished to be told to put out one of her trademark Cartier cigarettes in the now nonsmoking rest area. There are differing accounts of what went on during her 14 days back at Granada.

What is clear is that one Sunday four weeks ago, following a day's filming, she decided she was no longer able to continue.

The actress has said she is suffering from exhaustion and has been resting at her farmhouse in Heywood, Lancashire. There she is being cared for by the latest man in her life. He is Scott Brand, 33, an HGV driver she met when he was delivering goods to her home.

A Granada spokesman said: 'We wish Julie a full and speedy recovery and will talk to her when she is ready about coming back.'

But no one thinks that she will be persuaded to return despite her £170,000 one-year contract.

Those who brought her back are blaming each other. 'It always was a terrible idea - it had disaster written all over it,' said one.

So what went wrong? When Miss Goodyear left in 1995, she said she had decided that it was time to move on. But despite lucrative stints in panto, the amount of work she anticipated did not materialise. Meanwhile the Street has appeared to flounder as EastEnders waltzed off with the awards and plaudits.

In came Carolyn Reynolds - an old hand - as executive producer. Miss Reynolds hatched the idea of a return by her old star.

But problems quickly became apparent. Miss Goodyear was used to meticulous rehearsals but Coronation Street no longer has the time for that.

And, with the soap now on four times a week, scenes are shot back to back. She was in 32 scenes in her first week and 29 in the second.

Her performances have been savaged by the critics. Jaci

Stephen, the Mail's soap expert, said: 'Julie Goodyear's return has been a disaster from day one. She left as a pantomime dame and she's come back as one half of the pantomime horse.'

Granada believes Miss Goodyear will expect to be paid to the end of her contract, and is ready to negotiate.

Last night the actress renewed contact with the show's producer. There will be a meeting next week, although the outcome is unclear.

'It's very hard to predict what Julie will do or say,' a source said. 'The situation is a great big mess.'

For now there is no need for Bet Gilroy to come back.

Scriptwriters have rewritten the plot so that, for the next few weeks, there will be mentions of Bet and a trial off- screen over missing money. After that, she may never be heard of again.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz24jsWpu5Q

I know a casting director who has worked a lot for ITV and she said Julie Goodyear is a mean, spiteful, nasty bitch.

No surprises there...she also tried to influence the sitchs noms, not that he needs influencing, what he does need is some acting lessons ....that pause for dramatic effect before he told Julie he felt played...:sleep:

I was reading through that and taking on board some of that printed, but still keeping an open mind as the papers do tend to print what they want us to believe in many cases re stars of the media world. It would be so easy to believe all we read, why only the other day an online rag posted The Sitch had been evicted last Friday, and even gave quotes? So when I got to the end of that about Julie, hey I expect many stars hare difficult to work with, especially the older they get, and so Julie would be no different, but that is from 'The Daily Mail', one of the worst rags imo for printing up any old stuff that brings the readers in. I can't stand that rag at all.

Julie is no Angel, but I doubt she is the Devil Incarnate either, she is just at the moment a Celeb on a reality show trying to use her wits to make the final.

Thanks for the well researched background on the circumstances surrounding Julie Goodyears short lived return to the street. It must have been hard for her to come back after such a long absence and resume being the top dog on the show together with all the perks ie largest dressing room etc..

The show had moved on and her return as you point out was only to try and increase the audience figures (since the show had hit a bit of a slump at that time)

I still think she's one tough lady playing a good game and providing she doesn't shoot herself in the foot she could go all the way...!!!