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lambruscokid 13-08-2006 02:05 AM

The bookmakers\' odds [merged topics]
 
Watching the betting odds can be far more accurate than the polls: http://orange.oddschecker.com/orange...her/scard/8655


They haven't taken down the last ones yet, so you can see that Imogen was 1/50 to be evicted, while Richard was 10/1 - and of course, that's how it turned out.

In all the bookmakers odds, Pete is way ahead - 2/11 compared to 9, 14, or even 20 for Aisleyne:
http://orange.oddschecker.com/orange...69x/sid/903391

Ella 13-08-2006 02:06 AM

Yeah we all know Pete going to win hehe

dudul 13-08-2006 02:17 AM

yes well theres no doubt about that.haha. as long as ash is in top 3 im ok with that

lambruscokid 13-08-2006 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by dudul
yes well theres no doubt about that.haha. as long as ash is in top 3 Im ok with that
Even though I'm not an Ash fan, I'm happy she's in the finals instead of a lot of the HMs that could have been. I've said it before, I'm pleased with how it's turned out now, no matter who wins.

dudul 13-08-2006 02:23 AM

yes i know its all good but i just dont think it is fair that nikki is aloud to win the public evicted her for a reason if u no what i meen

lambruscokid 13-08-2006 02:35 AM

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Originally posted by dudul
yes i know its all good but i just dont think it is fair that nikki is aloud to win the public evicted her for a reason if u no what i meen
True, but the public also voted her back in. I thought it was unfair that she was evicted in the first place, as it was only due to the vote being split across all the HMs due to Jayne.

Don't worry, though, she's not likely to win over Pete or Glyn.

RAS 13-08-2006 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah we all know Pete going to win hehe
lol, i really don't think its that clear cut yet.

dudul 13-08-2006 02:49 AM

i don't either the most acurate polls i hav seen which people vote in the thousands is bbonline and they are never ever rong even in last years final poll vote soooo....

James 13-08-2006 03:01 AM

The bookmakers usually get it right in terms of predicting the result.

The one exception I remember was when Kenzie was odds-on to win Celebrity Big Brother 3 - right up to the final day even - and Bez ended up winning.

Also you have to remember bookmakers' odds don't necessarily reflect how likely something is to happen but reflect how much money has been laid, where.

Something has definately changed in the polls this week... this is the first week Aisleyene has been in the lead.

Farmloon 13-08-2006 03:01 AM

Betfair has Ash closing on Pete!

Ollie! 13-08-2006 07:11 AM

There's only 4 left in it: Pete, Glyn, Nikki and Aisleyne. Richards odds of 50-1 are too bad to even contemplate a top 4 finish and Jennie is virtually anonymous.

Aisleynes odds have dropped to as little as 9-1 at one bookies with an average of 14-1 has the edge in some polls, Pete has it in others. But the bookies have Pete a clear winner with Glyn a tiny fraction ahead of Nikki and Aisleyne a little bit behind.

So it looks like a Pete win, with 2nd place up for grabs between Glyn, Nikki and Aisleyne. Shocks do happen although Kenzie wasn't as far ahead of Bez as Pete is of the others this year. I really hope Aisleyne doesn't win but there's a teeny weeny chance! Maybe Glyn could win though too. :tongue:

ferg_luvs_bb7 13-08-2006 07:29 AM

I dont want Pete to win, hes so dull

Bells 13-08-2006 07:40 AM

I always saw Pete winning, nothing's changed...

kara 13-08-2006 08:07 AM

I think something has changed, and friday is gonna be a shock to a lot of people !

kara 13-08-2006 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
The bookmakers usually get it right in terms of predicting the result.

The one exception I remember was when Kenzie was odds-on to win Celebrity Big Brother 3 - right up to the final day even - and Bez ended up winning.

Also you have to remember bookmakers' odds don't necessarily reflect how likely something is to happen but reflect how much money has been laid, where.

Something has definately changed in the polls this week... this is the first week Aisleyene has been in the lead.
James, in the thread about Poll accuracy you say in response to the question "are the polls on this forum accurate?":

Quote:


I'd say pretty much, yes.

For CBB4 the final week poll predicted Chantelle would win by a landslide. It didn't predict that Michael Barrymore would be second though - the fact that people often vote for more than one housemate in the final is a variable that the polls on this site don't really take into account.

For the BB6 final the poll correctly predicted throughout the week that it was nip-and-tuck between Anthony and Eugene. After Eugene won half the money in the penultimate night twist there was a run-off poll and Anthony was the clear leader there.

The eviction polls have been generally accurate throughout this series also. For example Imogen's eviction percentage was 62% and the poll here predicted 63.1. Mikey's eviction percentage was bang-on level with the poll here - 48.5%.

Of course (as politicians are fond of saying) the only poll that really counts is the one, the result of which, will be announced at the end.
What do you think is going on, are the bookmakers right or are the polls right?

Lucky 13-08-2006 08:55 AM

Either way it probably worth putting a few quid on Ash :thumbs:

BigBrother10:AllnewBigBro 13-08-2006 08:56 AM

Ash has half of the bookies shortened to the same as Nikki or even better than Nikkis.Glyn is now second fav at 7/1 Nikki kind of joint 3rd fav with Ash overall with the bookies.Nikki has drifted to 11/1 and 9/1.Ash is 15/2,16/1(should shorten),and 12/1.Pete is still about 1/6 ans slighttly drifted to 2/11.

BigBrother10:AllnewBigBro 13-08-2006 09:01 AM

The bookmakers usually get it right in terms of predicting the result.

The one exception I remember was when Kenzie was odds-on to win Celebrity Big Brother 3 - right up to the final day even - and Bez ended up winning.

Also you have to remember bookmakers' odds don't necessarily reflect how likely something is to happen but reflect how much money has been laid, where.

Something has definately changed in the polls this week... this is the first week Aisleyene has been in the lead. James said - but Petes odds are shorter than kenzies ,he was 10/11 and 8/11 so Pete has better odds so he has a better chance 1/6 and 2/11 way better so Pete has a better chance.

kara 13-08-2006 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by Lucky
Either way it probably worth putting a few quid on Ash :thumbs:
defo, i put £20 on her at 26 to 1 a few days ago

Girardo 13-08-2006 09:32 AM

yeah but Richard is the lowest down in the order and thats wrong.

its obviously that Jennie will finish last. u dont need to watch BBBM or BBLB or polls to tell u that! she just hasnt had enough time to accumalte popularity and people naturally are not drawn to newcomers.
ASH is a total exception. shes still be in there for like 11.5 weeks or so.

kara 13-08-2006 09:37 AM

odds are just probabilities, so if a bookmaker puts pete at 1 to 6 it means that they expect him to win 5 out of 6 times, so they are not discounting the chance that he won't win 1 out of 6 times. That's just a dice throw! Let's hope that God indeed does play dice!

Bigmouth 13-08-2006 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by kara
odds are just probabilities, so if a bookmaker puts pete at 1 to 6 it means that they expect him to win 5 out of 6 times, so they are not discounting the chance that he won't win 1 out of 6 times. That's just a dice throw! Let's hope that God indeed does play dice!
Just like-
1-England hot favs for the world cup (lost)
2-ATHENS 2004 will never happen (best ever olympics)
3-Wembley will be ready for 2005 FA cup (still waiting)
4-The TITANIC will never sink(boy did they fcuk that one)

:tongue::tongue:

kara 13-08-2006 10:05 AM

Current ODDs - Ash 2nd Favourite!
 
Ash is SECOND favourite!!!!

http://www.coral.co.uk/sb.go?page=su...0&sid=20&ms=MS

Bigmouth 13-08-2006 10:10 AM

Sweet:joker: Kara whos that picture of in your Avatars???
Shes cute:tongue:

kara 13-08-2006 10:10 AM

she's also 15/2 (7.5 to 1 ) on another site and 8 to 1 on a third

jrc 13-08-2006 10:11 AM

Give over, 'Ash' is not going to win. Pete will win in a landslide victory.

BigBrother10:AllnewBigBro 13-08-2006 10:11 AM

Pete is still fav and keching up on the polls.
 
Pete is still a big fav(1/6) and keching up on the polls.Glyn is fav on the winner without pete betting market,Ash is 2nd at 21/10 nearly 2/1.Glyn is 1/1 and 10/11.Nikki was fav but now 3rd at 11/4.Nikki stands no reall chance to be honest.This market kind of predicts who will finish 2nd or 3rd and so on.
With some bokkies Ash has the same odds as Nikki and has evn overtook Nikki.With bet365 she is 15/2 ,Glyn is 8/1 and Nikki 10/1.But Glyn is still 2nd fav overall and Nikki 3rd overall but Ash will kech up with her.

kara 13-08-2006 10:13 AM

so its now 1/6 pete and pretty much the inverse for Ash - It's a two horse race now. I reckon it's 50-50 pete or ash to win - the bookies will catch up by tuesday

BigBrother10:AllnewBigBro 13-08-2006 10:14 AM

With some bookies ,but with most she is 3rd and 4th favourite.Glyn has shortened slightly or has stayed the same.I chek each bokkies odds so overall Glyn is 2nd fav love.http://odds.bookies.com/Default.aspx...e=0&help=false
you will see for yourself.

kara 13-08-2006 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jrc
Give over, 'Ash' is not going to win. Pete will win in a landslide victory.
tell us what makes you so sure? don't the numerous on-line polls make you a little unsure?

kara 13-08-2006 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bigmouth
Sweet:joker: Kara whos that picture of in your Avatars???
Shes cute:tongue:
that's me :)

BigBrother10:AllnewBigBro 13-08-2006 10:16 AM

She is joint 2nd fav with Glyn.But Glyn has better odds with most bookies so Glyn and Nikki are still ahead f Ash.

nikkiisgreat 13-08-2006 10:16 AM

cool just remove gyl and add dickey then i would be alrite
1 pete hope he win he deserves it
2nikki dont want her to win although i love her because she has been evicted
3dickey love him
4 ash i like her more but not as much as pete dickey and nikki
5gyln i dislike him more as the day go by
6jennie not because i dislike her more but bcause she doesnt deseve to win

Bigmouth 13-08-2006 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kara
Quote:

Originally posted by Bigmouth
Sweet:joker: Kara whos that picture of in your Avatars???
Shes cute:tongue:
that's me :)
God dam girl,You look sweet enough to eat:love: Was you in star wars:joker: Thanks for the banner:thumbs:

BigBrother10:AllnewBigBro 13-08-2006 10:18 AM

Glyn as well ,Its Pete,Glyn and Ash for the title.A 3 horse race not 2.3 contenders.Nikki has blown her chances she is out.So the rest as well.

jrc 13-08-2006 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kara
Quote:

Originally posted by jrc
Give over, 'Ash' is not going to win. Pete will win in a landslide victory.
tell us what makes you so sure? don't the numerous on-line polls make you a little unsure?
Well for a start I honestly think that Pete is the most popular housemate. These polls are not an example of the real thing, because you can only vote once. Look, instead of boasting about how you 'know' Ash will win, you may as well just wait until friday, its only 5 days away.

kara 13-08-2006 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jrc
Quote:

Originally posted by kara
Quote:

Originally posted by jrc
Give over, 'Ash' is not going to win. Pete will win in a landslide victory.
tell us what makes you so sure? don't the numerous on-line polls make you a little unsure?
Well for a start I honestly think that Pete is the most popular housemate. These polls are not an example of the real thing, because you can only vote once. Look, instead of boasting about how you 'know' Ash will win, you may as well just wait until friday, its only 5 days away.
pete was popular, but that popularity has slipped in this last week. People will multi vote for all of the contestants. I don't 'know' that Ash will win, but I feel she has a good chance of winning as anyone else (and I've got some money on her! :) )

nikkiisgreat 13-08-2006 10:23 AM

justremove gyln from the mist then ash and pete i wouldnt mind who win

BigBrother10:AllnewBigBro 13-08-2006 10:30 AM

Look pete is still fave cant you accept that, stop pretending Ash is odds on.Pete and Glyn stand a better chance at the moment.Pte to win.Ash is fake.

James 13-08-2006 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kara
Quote:

Originally posted by James
The bookmakers usually get it right in terms of predicting the result.

The one exception I remember was when Kenzie was odds-on to win Celebrity Big Brother 3 - right up to the final day even - and Bez ended up winning.

Also you have to remember bookmakers' odds don't necessarily reflect how likely something is to happen but reflect how much money has been laid, where.

Something has definately changed in the polls this week... this is the first week Aisleyene has been in the lead.
James, in the thread about Poll accuracy you say in response to the question "are the polls on this forum accurate?":

Quote:


I'd say pretty much, yes.

For CBB4 the final week poll predicted Chantelle would win by a landslide. It didn't predict that Michael Barrymore would be second though - the fact that people often vote for more than one housemate in the final is a variable that the polls on this site don't really take into account.

For the BB6 final the poll correctly predicted throughout the week that it was nip-and-tuck between Anthony and Eugene. After Eugene won half the money in the penultimate night twist there was a run-off poll and Anthony was the clear leader there.

The eviction polls have been generally accurate throughout this series also. For example Imogen's eviction percentage was 62% and the poll here predicted 63.1. Mikey's eviction percentage was bang-on level with the poll here - 48.5%.

Of course (as politicians are fond of saying) the only poll that really counts is the one, the result of which, will be announced at the end.
What do you think is going on, are the bookmakers right or are the polls right?
I think the polls are fairly accurate but the gap between Pete and Aisleyne will close later in the week - Pete has started off slow in a lot of weeks' favourite polls but picked up more votes later.

A lot of votes (to win BB7) will be cast near the end of the week. The final vote might be quite tight.


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