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JohnBlox 04-07-2014 09:53 PM

100% definitely a voting fix, impossible not to be
 
I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 7012143)
It's not even about Matthew. It's about a housemate being 1/16 to go and being saved. No one odds on to go at 1/3 has ever been saved so when someone at 1/16 to go is saved then everyone smells a ch5 rat.

I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

Northern Monkey 04-07-2014 09:56 PM

I think Helen is an excellent HM and i was'nt bothered who went tonight,But i do agree that this seems dodgy.

JPG2502 04-07-2014 09:56 PM

I think it might have something to do with the 'app', I'm sure its giving us mixed results compared to what we might get with sole phone voting

Josy 04-07-2014 09:57 PM

This is getting boring.

Its not a fix at all, the channel and company that runs BB would be in massive trouble if they fixed the votes.

Novo 04-07-2014 09:57 PM

Brilliant, keep them coming :joker: :joker:

Jemal 04-07-2014 09:59 PM

Lol is there anyway mods can close these fix threads?

smeagol 04-07-2014 09:59 PM

well if any sporting event was those odds and they lost. there would be a massive uproar and a investigation. its virtually unknown.
its like a one legged turkey racing a car with those odds

its suspect for certain. those odds are massive.and as i said ages ago not many vote you could easily manipulate it to make money if smart enough, doesn't have to bb could be anyone

daniel-lewis-1985 04-07-2014 10:01 PM

Go cry to Ofcom.

Novo 04-07-2014 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 7012408)
well if any sporting event was those odds and they lost. there would be a massive uproar and a investigation. its virtually unknown.
its like a one legged turkey racing a car with those odds

its suspect for certain. those odds are massive.and as i said ages ago not many vote you could easily manipulate it to make money if smart enough, doesn't have to bb could be anyone

Odds dont determine the event though, that's what people forget.. There is still a match/competition/vote/event to be played out.. I bet USA hockey team beating Russia in that famous upset back in the day was a bigger price and look at Nadal the other day at the exact same price 1/20, no uproar there

Brother Leon 04-07-2014 10:05 PM

Ash was at 1/10 5mins before he beat Toya last week...

waylander1973 04-07-2014 10:06 PM

I did say, in another much earlier post that facebook bb had turned on ashleigh, and wanted matthew gone because for their 'friendship', and could not vote ashleigh.

CaudleHalbard 04-07-2014 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7012421)
Go cry to Ofcom.

Exactly. Do something about it if you genuinely think there is something unlawful going on.

smeagol 04-07-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 7012443)
Odds dont determine the event though, that's what people forget.. There is still a match/competition/vote/event to be played out.. I bet USA hockey team beating Russia in that famous upset back in the day was a bigger price and look at Nadal the other day at the exact same price 1/20, no uproar there


doesn't matter there is always a investiagtion when odds that high lose
its rare. if the odds are last minute not weeks prior.

this was 2 horse race one was a dead cert.

what team wins what is totally different

chuff me dizzy 04-07-2014 10:10 PM

Im not one of those people who shout FIX ,but in this case it must have been ,theres no way someone whos 1-10 (as Ash was today) could possibly stay ,and several on BB Facebook asked why when they posted it was fixed were their comments removed

Achilles 04-07-2014 10:11 PM

Odds are irrelevant. Polls only measure the opinion of the people who choose to vote on the poll. The Big Brother audience is larger than 5-6k.

You also have to factor in the number of times each fan/hater votes.

JohnBlox 04-07-2014 10:15 PM

England world cup team, worst result since 1958
Murrays worst Wimbledon result for 8 years
BB a 10:1 HM leaves over one at 1:15 = Never happened EVER.

If the App doesn't restrict voting it would be easy to automate it to vote 100+ of times a minute (using stolen credit cards for credit OR other hack?) on multiple accounts bouncing through proxies to rig the bet. Other shows (x-factor) have withdrawn computerised voting, probably for this very reason.

If people complain and it gets investigated, it will 100% definitely be shown to be rigged. It's not like it hasn't happened before Ant&Dec etc.

Josy 04-07-2014 10:16 PM

It doesn't matter what the ODDS SAID

Votes are what counts and people clearly never voted enough to evict Ash :facepalm:

CaudleHalbard 04-07-2014 10:18 PM

I don't believe BB rigged it. Maybe the public did by massive multiple voting, but hey thats life!

JohnBlox 04-07-2014 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7012507)
Odds are irrelevant. Polls only measure the opinion of the people who choose to vote on the poll. The Big Brother audience is larger than 5-6k.

You also have to factor in the number of times each fan/hater votes.

Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

GypsyGoth 04-07-2014 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waylander1973 (Post 7012462)
I did say, in another much earlier post that facebook bb had turned on ashleigh, and wanted matthew gone because for their 'friendship', and could not vote ashleigh.

I think that is one of the reasons, also people were positive all week Ash would go, and just didn't bother voting. As well, Ash had a pretty good couple of days on the highlights shows and Matt was seen bitching.

Also I'm sure people who gamble have some influence, there was a chance for some to make a lot of money.

Ramsay 04-07-2014 10:21 PM

EDIT MANIPULATION WHICH THE PUBLIC FELL FOR. not an outright fix.

CaudleHalbard 04-07-2014 10:21 PM

Or it may be that people who place money with bookies are not the teenies who vote? ;)

JohnBlox 04-07-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 7012569)
Or it may be that people who place money with bookies are not the teenies who vote? ;)

Who fixed it and how is the question not IF, unless you are seriously gullible. Odds CAN be wrong, but NEVER that wrong, not possible

andybigbro 04-07-2014 10:25 PM

People must have thought Ash was gone so never bothered voting for him.

Miranda123 04-07-2014 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlox (Post 7012344)
I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread



I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

GET OVER IT!!

Ramsay 04-07-2014 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybigbro (Post 7012593)
People must have thought Ash was gone so never bothered voting for him.

^

JohnBlox 04-07-2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miranda123 (Post 7012601)
GET OVER IT!!

I am... over it for good!

Bye Bye BB, looking forward to all the time I'll save. I may watch the final but rest of this series and future ones (if it survives) I'm done.

I'm not bothered that Mat got evicted over Ash, just the embarrassing voting process.

andybigbro 04-07-2014 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlox (Post 7012766)
I am... over it for good!

Bye Bye BB, looking forward to all the time I'll save. I may watch the final but rest of this series and future ones (if it survives) I'm done.

I'm not bothered that Mat got evicted over Ash, just the embarrassing voting process.

That's a bit of a pathetic reaction tbh.

Achilles 04-07-2014 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlox (Post 7012552)
Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

The fans of Ash each vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The haters of Matthew vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The fans of Matthew don't see the danger.
The haters of Ash don't feel the need to vote as they think it is a foregone conclusion.
Result = Matthew evicted :cheer2:

00Jamie00 04-07-2014 10:58 PM

Anyone who is disappointed with the result can blame Ashleigh

smeagol 04-07-2014 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlox (Post 7012766)
I am... over it for good!

Bye Bye BB, looking forward to all the time I'll save. I may watch the final but rest of this series and future ones (if it survives) I'm done.

I'm not bothered that Mat got evicted over Ash, just the embarrassing voting process.


dont get baited. there s a lot here sudden;y jumping on a bandwagon.
dont fall for it.

beware of orces lol

daniel-lewis-1985 04-07-2014 11:02 PM

Look if it was a fix why would BB want to throw out Matthew over Christopher who provides entertainment?

They have gained nothing from this apparent fix apart from a backlash of unhappy people matthew went.

daniel-lewis-1985 04-07-2014 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlox (Post 7012344)
I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread



I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

DID YOU VOTE?

Also who did you want evicted?

JohnBlox 04-07-2014 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7012907)
DID YOU VOTE?

Also who did you want evicted?

No I never vote
Didn't really care who went

Assumed Ash would go based on the odds on odds-checker before the show. The thread wasn't supposed to be about teamA vs teamB just about the statistical anomaly that's given me the much needed push to stop watching for good. Choose to watch Helen the queen of chavs show? Seriously? Not for me. Makes me shudder and reminds one of the sad decline of this nation. To think Rooney paid to 'bleep' that - blimey, I give up!

Good-night

RodHull 04-07-2014 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlox (Post 7012552)
Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

Your missing a crucial point, if this was some fix or insider manipulation, Chrismass would have gone, not Mat. They'd want to save the controversial characters not evict them.

Its not fixed, put plainly Ashleighs vile and eye scratchingly hate inducing behaviour this week got Mat evicted. It was basically that show when she sat in the DR smugly congratulating herself with that prissy look on her face then the next show when she was awful to Kim and generally very fake, he was doomed from then on.

Where as Helen realised she was proving to be Ashs undoing and didnt react to Ashleighs little game, Helen won basically... deal with it people

CaudleHalbard 04-07-2014 11:30 PM

I have awful news for those who love the idea of fixes and conspiracies:

Those who run the show don't give a toss who gets evicted or even who wins. (Shock, horror!)

How much profit have we made...... THAT is the only question discussed on the boardroom.

daniel-lewis-1985 04-07-2014 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlox (Post 7013058)
No I never vote
Didn't really care who went

Assumed Ash would go based on the odds on odds-checker before the show. The thread wasn't supposed to be about teamA vs teamB just about the statistical anomaly that's given me the much needed push to stop watching for good. Choose to watch Helen the queen of chavs show? Seriously? Not for me. Makes me shudder and reminds one of the sad decline of this nation. To think Rooney paid to 'bleep' that - blimey, I give up!

Good-night

So if you didn't vote because you thought Ash was safe is it not possible that others did the same?

Isnt that more realistic than some minority report fantasy.

Also if you look around the forum there are people who have made threads who voted to evict Matthew.

We have already established from polls on DS that over 90% of people said they didn't even bother voting.

Im sorry but if people didn't pick up the phone to evict Ash because they was so certain he was going to go then the next biggest personality which was Matthew was bound to get more votes.

Miranda123 04-07-2014 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBlox (Post 7012344)
I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread



I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

you should eat cypriot grapes, theyre not quite so bitter!!!

Miranda123 04-07-2014 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7012897)
Look if it was a fix why would BB want to throw out Matthew over Christopher who provides entertainment?

They have gained nothing from this apparent fix apart from a backlash of unhappy people matthew went.

well Im very happy!!!!!

daniel-lewis-1985 04-07-2014 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miranda123 (Post 7013121)
well Im very happy!!!!!

That's brilliant even though I didn't want Matthew to go its good to see that there are people who did which makes it credible Matthew actually just got the most votes.

BUT.....

Did you vote? lol


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