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http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...marc-get-angry

The cretin calls Marc an "Irish ****** " Racist ? in my eyes is it

Irish isn't a race, so it would be xenophobic

It would be xenophobic though imo why bring where he comes from into it? Would it be ok to call Sam an Asian ****? it's the same difference

Harry is an ignorant disgusting cretin :bored:

Is she actually lying though?

Yes, she's really disgusting and ignorant

Well she's not lying, he is Irish and he is a ****, so :laugh:

Exactly

It's not the point Liam, why use his nationality infront of the insulting word? It's like calling someone a black **** or an Indian ****, neither of those would be acceptable either. I don't like Marc or Harry but that's offensive

No I agree and always think it's out of order and a bit stupid when people prefix an insult with someone's nationality, was just pointing out that it's not racist that's all :p

it's disgusting to call them a irish whatever tho :umm2:

Fair enough :love:

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no one should ever use someone's nationality for an insult. That angers me the most, It's plain rude and Ignorant.

She's a moron who really should think before opening her gob.

and did anyone notice how she was getting irate with Nick when he put her in her place for contradicting herself? She didn't like that at all. Cretin.

I get that using someone's nationality as an insult is unacceptable, but in these situations, I personally don't see how calling him Irish is the offensive part, when the offensive (and rightly deserved part) was the '****'

I mean, i wouldn't get offended if someone called me a Welsh wanker, so maybe I'm just seeing it from my own personal prospective idk

Why not just call him a **** then? What was the purpose of prefixing it with where he comes from if not to try and use that as an insult against him, it makes the sentence sound like she's using that as an extra insult. If someone called a person a black **** on BB, would that be offensive do you think, even if he was actually a black person?

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:fist: why did you have to win week 1 nominations thing you have made some great post this week

awww :love:

is she janet street porters daughter. they are so alike. both disgusting.

Don't come for me :sad:

Everyone would be furious on here if she had said "Black **** ,can you imagine ? double standards at its very worst

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why do people on here always use the 'BUT IF THEY SAID THAT ABOUT A BLACK PERSON' thing on here like really

Because its true

Because it's relevant to the discussion I was having. Liam said "but he is Irish and he is a ****" and I said "so if he was black and he was a **** it would be ok to call him a black ****?" You don't see how that's an ok comparison?

I personally find that when using someone's nationally in an insult like Harry used, i think it only becomes used as an offensive thing when the offensive word used, directly correlates to the person's nationality, if that makes sense?

Like, 'Irish ****' or like i said 'Welsh wanker' to me, that doesn't use a person's nationality as the prevalent insult, whereas if someone said 'Irish *something about potatoes*' or 'Welsh *something about sheep shagging*' that would be directly using someone's nationality as an insult to them.

It's still silly to place a person's nationality in that sort of context though, but I can't back that as being directly xenophobic.

Idek if any of that made sense but hohum.

Its more about double standards, if she had called him a black **** she would have been removed

Well, I remember being called a stupid ****ing Irish bitch by someone when i lived in London years ago and I can tell you the part that offended me so much was that the word Irish had been thrown in amongst the insults. I really felt like the person who said it was trying to belittle me because not only was I stupid and a bitch but I was Irish which was less then them, that's what it felt like to me

It was an xenophobic comment regardless of any excuses anyone comes up with.

I wasn't making excuses, I was stating my opinion.. the same as I'd do so even if it was Marc who had said something similar, before anyone feels like throwing that little cliche at me.

meh!........while the phrase is not one to be encouraged it's hardly disgusting...........

Mark L

The reaction of some on here would have been SO different if Marc had said that , it's pathetic , as is she.

Not from me it wouldn't.

And if she had said black **** ?

well the comparison would need to be a country


Nigerian ****
Malawian ****
Jamaican ****

Didn't Marc call Harry a Knacker yesterday? Apparently that is a derogatory term for a traveller, which is also "out of order"

Harry didn't bring up the colour of Marc's skin

and all I have no doubt she'd be warned if she said any of those things to a HM of one of those nationalities

What a load of utter rubbish ,I have a gypsy brother in law