Malaysia : British Girl arrested for doing a Naked Selfie on Sacred Mountain
 

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[A few days later, a 5.9-magnitude
earthquake struck nearby and
killed 18 climbers – prompting
one of Malaysia's most senior
politicians to say that the
tourists' behaviour was to blame.]

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[Miss Hawkins (centre) is currently studying for a Masters
in aeronautics and aerospace engineering at the University of Southampton]

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You are well Educated
yet you have No care or Respect for that Nations way of life


I say Lock her Up
set a Solid example





Tibb's Ben who has Traveled to Asia
understands this

Oh yes. Let's start locking kids up because people are superstitious. Next step: hanging people for putting an umbrella up indoors.

People never stop banging on about people coming here and respecting our traditions, should we not show the same respect abroad even if we don't believe in it? This would be the equivalent of stripping off in Westminster abbey :idc:

No it wouldn't, in Westminster abbey there would probably be other people around which would make it public indecency. If someone stripped off in Westminster abbey when no one was around other than their friends, it shouldn't be any sort of a problem at all. On a personal note, I would be quite pleased if the entire world showed up to strip down and defecate on Westminster abbey's doorstep, but that's another thread for another day.

The mountain isn't "sacred", they sure as **** didn't cause an earthquake, and whilst yes it's arrogant and immature to go travelling and act like idiots (which they were) there's a pretty massive chasm between that and it actually being illegal. Send them home, ban them from the country, whatever. Don't lock them up Ffs. I can see this going really badly and some backwater idiot hurting or killing one of them for angering the mountain gods.

On another hilarious note, apparently the stripping naked occurred weeks ago but the earthquake only happened after the pictures appeared on social media. Who knew that sacred mountain earthquake gods were on facebook?

Obviously it didn't cause the earthquake no one is suggesting that, but my point still stands about respect. If it emerged someone stripped in the Abbey there would be public outrage make no mistake :idc: I doubt very much they will be detained for long at any rate

Like I said, I agree that it's arrogant and immature but the appropriate response would be to ban them from returning to the country, surely. Not to pander to local superstitions (the politicians doing this should be locked up IMO, I don't believe for a second that the people in power there actually believe any of the mountain god twaddle) by suggesting that they are responsible for deaths. Like I said, I can easily see this going horribly and one of them being hurt or worse by some superstitious vigilante.

If you can't respect other people's customs and traditions you have no right having a passport. To say I'm entitled because I think your religion is bullsh1t is ignorant. Go and enjoy other cultures, go and see the world, but don't impose your drunkenness and your nakedness on other people because you feel you can.

No TS

Respect the nations Rules

A Guide said do not dot

So that High Educated Lady
is Guilty
Lock her away
that will be a Sharp Education



Sign Of The Times

Like I said, send them home, ban them from the country. That would be appropriate. Locking naive young people up and potentially endangering them by suggesting that they have effectively committed manslaughter, because they angered fictional mountain deities, is absolutely not the appropriate response.

Why would you want to get naked on a mountain? :facepalm:

Ultimate Selfie
on top of the world
She was part of a group
rushing to leave the country - but that got her.
some of them are on the run


She his Highly Educated
warned not to do it.

Lock her away
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Photo of her in England

:laugh2: This made me laugh alot, i don't know why

I agree with Girth, Ban them from the country but a prison sentence is dumb, especially when the only reason this story got traction is because of some moron politician decided to scapegoat them for an earthquake.

No Dezzy it sets a Benchmark
forever more

Showing off her kebab

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After her arrest

She was rushing to Escape
they caught her


Lock Her Away
Thats Great Education

I think it's hard for us - as a secular country which is generally religiously apathetic these days - to appreciate the depth of feeling that could be had over this incident. Jail would not seem inappropriate to a lot of the local population for completely disrespecting one of their most sacred spots where spirits are supposed to go to rest. Part of the appeal of visiting places like this is surely the longevity and resilience of local customs and beliefs - don't be surprised if those then turn against you if you show no respect for them. Mind you even though we are less religious I still would expect a fair amount of outrage if - like Cherie said - someone did this on Westminster Abbey or if someone did it in a graveyard. Respecting the dead is pretty universal. And as for blaming it for the earthquake, well we have had councillors in this country claim that storms and floods should be blamed on gay people..

:clap1::clap1:

Surely people are cautioned about these things before traveling to country's like this?

Frankly... if a group of foreign students came here and got naked in a graveyard, then were accused of causing a natural disaster and put in prison, I would be ****ing horrified.

Pretty sure they knew what mountain they were on :laugh: put it liike this they wouldn't have pulled this stunt in the Middle East

Again though it seems like people can't separate a feeling of "that was stupid / that is wrong" and "PUT THEM IN JAIL!!11!1!".

No one is arguing that it was a good idea or that they aren't idiots. No one is arguing against the fact that they disrespected local culture and it's wrong to do so, or that they would be quite justified in saying "please never darken our doorstep again". All of that is totally valid. They're a bunch of young people who did something stupid, arrogant and naive and I could even bring myself to agree with Livia that when they get home, they should have their passports locked away until they can be trusted not to be twats.

All fine.

Jailing them for angering fairies and invoking the wrath of some non-existant yet apparently exceptionally moody bastard god... essentially accusing them of being guilty of causing a number of deaths... is not fine. It's ****ing nonsense, and just because it's in a country that still widely believes in said ****ing nonsense, does not make it acceptable.

Their Lawyer
has said the Police must not put them
in cells near the locals as they are Angry.

6 more are still on the run

See, this is my fear. Some bumpkin attempting to harm them because they angered The Balrog.

Hope the 6 others make it out of the country and back to sanity.

But they're not in jail on the charges of 'causing a natural disaster', the charges are obscenity, and you can be charged for pretty similar in the UK

The fact that some people do think the two things are linked - well shock horror, not everyone thinks as most Westerners do, different cultures have different belief systms, it doesn't do much good taking an attitude of 'those silly little tribal people should get over themselves'. If you're not comfortable with a belief that - though alien to us - is deeply held and embedded in their society then there's not much point in visiting in the first place. And if it does result in their jailing then there is not much point in our finger wagging and tutting. Politely requesting that they are met with clemency fine; demanding their release shouting that it's based on nothing more than 'fairies' and 'nonsense' - not so fine

It IS based on fairies and nonsense though, and of course there's a point in visiting the place. The world is stunning. It's stunning with or without stupid people and their backwards beliefs. To reiterate, again, what they did was stupid. It is not stupid enough to warrant being locked up or having their safety threatened. Anywhere.

I don't think you are cut out for international diplomacy TS :inamood:

The world is stunning I agree but there is more to appreciate than its geography and architecture

Getting locked up for 3 months
is good
Others want them Hanged


Respect Every Nation you enter TS

I appreciate what you're saying about what helps them (being humble etc. Etc.) and if I was a lawyer or diplomat representing them I might employ a different tactic, feign acceptance of their juvenile beliefs, and what not.

However I am neither of those things and I doubt (though can't be sure I suppose) that the Malaysian authorities aren't on TiBB. They probably think that the Internet is the work of Abaddon and that browsing forums may cause a terrible hurricane the likes of which has never before been witnessed.

Silly beggars.

People do stupid and disrespectful things, well then they have to be prepared for the consequences.
I am not saying lock them up, but that is up to the law of that land I suppose.
Perhaps a public apology showing some genuine remorse and then a lifetime ban from the country would do the job.:shrug:
Depends how deep the feelings go for the Malaysian people and how offended they are.

Someone owns Westminster abbey, as far as I know nobody owns a mountain.

Yes her being naked caused an earthquake. We all have different cultures it seems put apparently politicians being lying ***** is a universal thing.

Give them their buffalo and that's that, this time next year it will just be interesting dinner party conversation.

The locals say the Gods own it.


She is Well Educated


Lock Her Up
It will do her good

Canadian siblings, twins, from near where I live, are also being prevented from leaving the country and may still be charged...

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/wo...aving-malaysia

Well they don't, it's just people laying claim to things and imposing rules in the name of religion again.
Locking up innocent people does no good.

People should be able to get naked wherever they want (with very few exceptions) so long as they aren't harassing any other person without their consent in the process.

Regardless, I'm with Toy Soldier, arresting them for this is utterly ridiculous.

Not really the point, its about respecting cultures regardless of who owns what

Young people travelling to far-flung places need to be a little more grown up and aware of their surroundings Everywhere is not Ibiza. In some places you have to behave a certain way - your actual life may depend on it. And really, if that's not understood they should stay at home. And ridiculing people's religious beliefs because you think it's a bit silly will cut no ice in a prison cell, and don't bother calling the embassy to dig you out because they won't help you.