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Withano 03-07-2015 10:05 PM

Do you find arguments entertaining.
 
I understood the reason behind Marc's fanbase, but honestly, all he brought to the house (excluding week 1) was arguments.

Helen won too so I'd imagine some people do find arguments entertaining, are you one of these people?

There isn't much I find less entertaining than a 5 minute argument about who said what when to who and why.

In my eyes, a great housemate left when Marc stopped being fun and started being a dick but the house has lost nothing but arguments if the recent side to him is anything to go by.

reece(: 03-07-2015 10:06 PM

When they occur naturally and are not forced by production or their pets (Marc)

Liam- 03-07-2015 10:07 PM

Sometimes, mostly when there's a reason behind the argument other than 'we're all dickheads'

Withano 03-07-2015 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 7962050)
When they occur naturally and are not forced by production or their pets (Marc)

I used to be the same.. Back when an argument happened maybe 3 times a week on c4. 3 times an episode on c5 is so draining to me.

zakman440 03-07-2015 10:08 PM

Not the amount that Channel 5 ram down our throats. They need to find the right balance between drama and fun.

ItWasJustBanter 03-07-2015 10:08 PM

It beats them snoozing all day and patting one another on the back

abhorson 03-07-2015 10:08 PM

Not going to vote on this. When needed, arguments are necessary.

Vicky. 03-07-2015 10:08 PM

Sometimes, but I prefer a mix of fun and arguments tbh. And natural arguments beat the manufactured crap we get now hands down

RichardG 03-07-2015 10:08 PM

Yes when they're natural and spaced out periodically throughout the series in between nice, funny episodes. The biggest reason why I hated CBB in January by the end of the season - that month was draining.

Ramsay 03-07-2015 10:09 PM

They can be and other times they can't. all depends on the circumstances i guess.

Pete. 03-07-2015 10:09 PM

When they're natural

Lampfan 03-07-2015 10:10 PM

I think we all do. That's why we watch. So I didn't answer.

None of us watch to see the "happy house" or "pow pow" obviously. Somewhere in between.

cookiemonster 03-07-2015 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7962065)
Sometimes, but I prefer a mix of fun and arguments tbh. And natural arguments beat the manufactured crap we get now hands down

this

smudgie 03-07-2015 10:11 PM

Sometimes it's the only way we see what the housemates are really like.
If they lose their temper then they tend to forget their game plan.

jaxie 03-07-2015 10:12 PM

The poll needs a sometimes option.

Lampfan 03-07-2015 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7962079)
When they're natural

How can you determine when an argument is natural?

You pick and choose to suit your favourite/hated, yes?

rubymoo 03-07-2015 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 7962050)
When they occur naturally and are not forced by production or their pets (Marc)

This^^^

This series has been so controlled and manipulated by the production team. I prefer to see natural interactions, but as a society we're becoming conditioned for high drama, it's almost as if the production team seem to think that they know what the viewers want, and therefore go out of their way to interfere and manipulate and this spoils the viewing pleasure of a natural BB.

But then i guess people may get bored of a natural BB, hence the reason for interference, i guess we're too conditioned now to enjoy a normal BB:shrug:

Lampfan 03-07-2015 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7962102)
This^^^

This series has been so controlled and manipulated by the production team. I prefer to see natural interactions, but as a society we're becoming conditioned for high drama, it's almost as if the production team seem to think that they know what the viewers want, and therefore go out of their way to interfere and manipulate and this spoils the viewing pleasure of a natural BB.

But then i guess people may get bored of a natural BB, hence the reason for interference, i guess we're too conditioned now to enjoy a normal BB:shrug:

Do you really think this toilet C5 team have the skills to script the normal BB?... I mean I am quite cynical but I also know how ****ing awful they have been No chance they could. Definitely control the editing and who gets bad tweets and who's nominations get shown but jesus wept, not scripted.

rubymoo 03-07-2015 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampfan (Post 7962151)
Do you really think this toilet C5 team have the skills to script the normal BB?... I mean I am quite cynical but I also know how ****ing awful they have been No chance they could. Definitely control the editing and who gets bad tweets and who's nominations get shown but jesus wept, not scripted.

There's lots of people who think this years BB has been over manipulted, this years BB has been a washout!

lewis111 03-07-2015 10:23 PM

I love random ones over what seems like nothing, and between people who don't usually argue

HeelBatman 03-07-2015 10:25 PM

But the people that aren't actually boring don't deserve eviction

MrWong 03-07-2015 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter (Post 7962063)
It beats them snoozing all day and patting one another on the back

As if that's the only alternative to arguments.

MB. 03-07-2015 10:28 PM

Only when they're natural and not forced down our throats by thirsty producers. As they have been for the past two years.

Withano 03-07-2015 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 7962196)
As if that's the only alternative to arguments.

:joker: all of your posts sum up my opinions so beautifully.

Clootie Dumpling 03-07-2015 10:35 PM

I love a good argument - when it's well argued, rather than a bout of gainsaying - but I do agree that the production team made a bad decision when they elected to send some 'legends' in from previous series.

I mean, do they really think that sending in fishwives like Aisleyne, skunks like Jasmine & Charley and nutters like Brian and Nikki is going to do anything other than cause a series of slanging matches?

Will. 03-07-2015 10:35 PM

most of the time

lily. 03-07-2015 10:37 PM

Not really. I think if an argument comes along naturally, that's okay, but if someone sets out to cause arguments it comes over as fake.

Will. 03-07-2015 10:37 PM

depend though

Lampfan 03-07-2015 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7962174)
There's lots of people who think this years BB has been over manipulted, this years BB has been a washout!

People have been hand picked on C5 for the last 3 years. At least 75% of them have had media exposure.

But scripted is a whole different kettle of fish. That's what I am rubbishing. Ofcourse they edit it to suit themselves but the script stuff is nonsense.

Pete. 03-07-2015 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampfan (Post 7962101)
How can you determine when an argument is natural?

You pick and choose to suit your favourite/hated, yes?

When they don't stem from a task saying that Cristian called Chloe fat in a conversation with Joel or w/e

Lampfan 03-07-2015 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7962274)
When they don't stem from a task saying that Cristian called Chloe fat in a conversation with Joel or w/e

I'll be honest. I don't know what your referring to. I might have missed that episode but it still doesnt sound scripted...

rubymoo 03-07-2015 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampfan (Post 7962273)
People have been hand picked on C5 for the last 3 years. At least 75% of them have had media exposure.

But scripted is a whole different kettle of fish. That's what I am rubbishing. Ofcourse they edit it to suit themselves but the script stuff is nonsense.

Did i use the word scripted:conf:

They have manipulated, and in my opinion sent in HM's with an agenda (the old HM's)

It's all too contrived to be honest (imo)

And as i've said, i'm not the only person to think so!

joeysteele 03-07-2015 10:47 PM

Yes but not all the time.

Lampfan 03-07-2015 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7962300)
Did i use the word scripted:conf:

They have manipulated, and in my opinion sent in HM's with an agenda (the old HM's)

It's all too contrived to be honest (imo)

And as i've said, i'm not the only person to think so!

Oh, I see. I got the wires crossed.

I totally agree with you that the "guests" were sent in with a script. Not an exact script but... you know. Definitely. IT's opened up the win for Danny... ffs!

rubymoo 03-07-2015 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampfan (Post 7962343)
Oh, I see. I got the wires crossed.

I totally agree with you that the "guests" were sent in with a script. Not an exact script but... you know. Definitely. IT's opened up the win for Danny... ffs!

:douf:

MrWong 03-07-2015 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7962205)
:joker: all of your posts sum up my opinions so beautifully.

We are in sync this series Withano :douf:

Clootie Dumpling 03-07-2015 10:54 PM

I wish they'd stop sending people in - it flies in the face of the idea that these people are there to get on, or not, cut off from the outside world and public opinion. Allowing people in from the outside gives them the chance to change their behaviour based on what they think is being said about them outside.

Angelika 03-07-2015 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampfan (Post 7962085)
I think we all do. That's why we watch. So I didn't answer.

None of us watch to see the "happy house" or "pow pow" obviously. Somewhere in between.

I watch to see how people interact in a group. Bickering and the odd flare up that occurs naturally is interesting - setting up housemates like Helen and Marc purposely to wind housemates up, cause anxiety and mayhem etc. is destructive, cruel, disgusting and unpleasant to watch. Placing housemates under unbearable stress and then severely restricting their diets putting them on basic rations most of the time is, imo, unnecessary. BB producers need to be more responsibile for stopping situations before they get out of hand - Marc threw a sofa over with Joel on it for instance on tonight's show and nothing was said. Let Joel or Chloe do that it's a warning immediately.

I complain fairly regularly about the goings on on the house to C5 and Ofcom where I deem it necessary. The housemates should be treated humanely and with respect - sadly his is not always the case. IMO, we can't rule out long term emotional and psychological damage after leaving the show, only time will tell.

I really don't believe BB as a show is relevant for today's TV viewing - not in it's present form. It's no longer an interesting social experiment - it's become embarrassing and if I could I would have the show shut down for good.

Dollface 03-07-2015 10:59 PM

Yes, but when they go too far (i.e Helen) I find them quite uncomfortable

MrWong 03-07-2015 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 7962370)
I wish they'd stop sending people in - it flies in the face of the idea that these people are there to get on, or not, cut off from the outside world and public opinion. Allowing people in from the outside gives them the chance to change their behaviour based on what they think is being said about them outside.

That's my pet peeve. Ch5 have taken it to ridiculous levels.


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