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VanessaFeltz. 15-07-2015 04:15 PM

Why everything about Jack has to be about his weight?
 
Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:17 PM

Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

Crimson Dynamo 15-07-2015 04:17 PM

He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple :nono:

Marsh. 15-07-2015 04:17 PM

Hot

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8000222)
He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple :nono:

Being gay and black does not kill you.

Being fat kills you.

Crimson Dynamo 15-07-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000221)
Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

plenty skinny people die of heart attacks


stop fat shaming :nono:

Crimson Dynamo 15-07-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000224)
Being gay and black does not kill you.

Being fat kills you.

being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8000225)
plenty skinny people die of heart attacks


stop fat shaming :nono:

Call it what you want really, I'm just being truthful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8000228)
being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

Stereotypical. These factors don't affect your overall health, anyhow.

Marsh. 15-07-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8000228)
being gay did kill you in the 80s

and being black does a lot in the USA

:omgno:

Crimson Dynamo 15-07-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000229)
Call it what you want really, I'm just being truthful.

so would you call Chloe fat?

Marcus. 15-07-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 8000209)
Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

this :clap1:

Crimson Dynamo 15-07-2015 04:20 PM

Jack has to win for the future of BB

Lostie! 15-07-2015 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000221)
Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

Marcus. 15-07-2015 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8000240)
That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

:clap1:

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8000233)
so would you call Chloe fat?

No, I'd call her curvy. I don't think she's fat, she's just carrying a bit of extra weight which can be burned off easily. Jack is heading towards a brick wall.

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8000240)
That may be your motivation, but a large portion of weight-related jibes towards overweight BB housemates certainly have nothing to do with "looking out for" them. There's always an element of certain housemates being mocked for their appearances on the forums, and it's just really unpleasant.

I agree, and I hope I'm not being associated with those types of people because I'm not. There are a lot of overweight people on Big Brother that I have adored and wanted to win. I don't like Jack's personality and although I have a strong opinion about his size, I don't let it overrule what I think about him. I dislike him because of his personality, but I also think he could do with losing weight.

VanessaFeltz. 15-07-2015 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000221)
Because if he carries on being fat, he'll die of a heart attack.

We're just looking out for him.

His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

vafunghoul 15-07-2015 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 8000209)
Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that, I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 8000255)
His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

This is what I don't like; people assuming that I am judging him based on his weight. I'm not, because I don't do that. I just think that in the future he could suffer serious problems if he doesn't act now.

Liam- 15-07-2015 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 8000255)
His weight is none of other people's business, he knows what he is living in and it is not our job to judge people based on their apperance.

If people do that then they shouldnt cry about more diverse casts. Because apperantly they only want skinny blonde girl and men with muscles

Fair point

Lostie! 15-07-2015 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000254)
I agree, and I hope I'm not being associated with those types of people because I'm not. There are a lot of overweight people on Big Brother that I have adored and wanted to win. I don't like Jack's personality and although I have a strong opinion about his size, I don't let it overrule what I think about him. I dislike him because of his personality, but I also think he could do with losing weight.

Oh, I don't have you down as someone who'd mock someone for their weight at all. :)

And I'm the same in that I'm not a Jack fan, but his weight has nothing to do with that. I'm also not a fan of Danny and Cristian (actually, they're both currently annoying me more than Jack) and they're more stereotypically "attractive". Appearance shouldn't ever be a factor in whether someone likes or dislikes a housemate, to be honest.

And frankly, if you have a valid qualm with someone's personality or actions, you wouldn't need to resort to petty, juvenile appearance-based mockery.

abhorson 15-07-2015 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=AshRley;



Stereotypical. These factors don't affect your overall health, anyhow.[/QUOTE]

I suppose not, if you are dead!

Moosething 15-07-2015 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8000222)
He cant help being big boned

he was Born That Way

you must not hate what people cannot help

if he was gay or not white can you imagine the outcry....


Its fat shaming pure and simple :nono:

:laugh:

VanessaFeltz. 15-07-2015 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vafunghoul (Post 8000263)
No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that

Thats ok to have opinion on him.

Quote:

I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.
This is not.

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8000267)
Oh, I don't have you down as someone who'd mock someone for their weight at all. :)

And I'm the same in that I'm not a Jack fan, but his weight has nothing to do with that. I'm also not a fan of Danny and Cristian (actually, they're both currently annoying me more than Jack) and they're more stereotypically "attractive". Appearance shouldn't ever be a factor in whether someone likes or dislikes a housemate, to be honest.

And frankly, if you have a valid qualm with someone's personality or actions, you wouldn't need to resort to petty, juvenile appearance-based mockery.

Thank you; again, I agree. "But he's good looking tho" is not a valid justification of vile behaviour.

Jack_ 15-07-2015 04:31 PM

Because people are nasty, that's why.

It's been atrocious this year with the endless insults about the way housemates look and has made this on season one of the most draining and miserable ever

abhorson 15-07-2015 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vafunghoul (Post 8000263)
No, he doesn't have an agent, no he doesn't have a high salary, but he's a phoney asshole who WANTS to win. I dislike him because he farts all the time, cannot handle any semblance of accountability. Especially when nominated for any reason and because of all that, I personally choose to mock him for also being a fat bastard.

Everyone farts all the time. Don't you:laugh:

Moosething 15-07-2015 04:32 PM

Those people who bring up Chloe's dad & similar stuff when its irrelevant to her in the house are just as bad

Jack_ 15-07-2015 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moosething (Post 8000282)
Those people who bring up Chloe's dad & similar stuff when its irrelevant to her in the house are just as bad

Indeed

vafunghoul 15-07-2015 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 8000279)
Everyone farts all the time. Don't you:laugh:

Yes but I have class!!!
I do so in private. except when I want to share, then light them.
:shrug::joker:

VanessaFeltz. 15-07-2015 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000265)
This is what I don't like; people assuming that I am judging him based on his weight. I'm not, because I don't do that. I just think that in the future he could suffer serious problems if he doesn't act now.

But that come across that way because all the comments are like

"Fat bitch"
"Lose some weight"
"He is very big"
"When will he lose weight"

And i am not talking about you specially i am talking about the comments on here, maybe you are not like that but some people are seriously hating him based on his weight and trying to cover it by "he moans a lot"

If people hate on him based on personality then they shouldnt be offended by my comment at all

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 8000279)
Everyone farts all the time. Don't you:laugh:

I personally wouldn't stand in a room full of people and let it out, or do it whilst sitting at the dinner table in the middle of a serious conversation. Jonty from BB8 is a perfect example of this. :laugh:

Ashley. 15-07-2015 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 8000289)
If people hate on him based on personality then they shouldnt be offended by my comment at all

You quoted me in your reply so I assumed you were calling me judgemental. Sorry.:laugh:

abhorson 15-07-2015 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000290)
I personally wouldn't stand in a room full of people and let it out, or do it whilst sitting at the dinner table in the middle of a serious conversation. Jonty from BB8 is a perfect example of this. :laugh:

:laugh:

I would not either. But amongst certain friends i have done as do they. Might even say "savour the flavour". The British love toilet humour:laugh:

VanessaFeltz. 15-07-2015 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 8000297)
You quoted me in your reply so I assumed you were calling me judgemental. Sorry.:laugh:

No i am not trying to that :D i am trying to tell people it is not okay to shame people based on their weight because lots of people do that this series and it is very unconfortable for me to watch

BB4fan 15-07-2015 04:47 PM

That £23.000 is destined for a spending spree on KFC.:hehe:

vafunghoul 15-07-2015 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB4fan (Post 8000331)
That £23.000 is destined for a spending spree on KFC.:hehe:

He has a bucket list!!!

:joker:

BB4fan 15-07-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vafunghoul (Post 8000335)
He has a bucket list!!!

:joker:

He'll eat his local branch out.:laugh:

rionablue 15-07-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelihV (Post 8000209)
Every year people moan about how hms arent every day people and they want normal people and then we have jack this year and he is a normal person, not a model. He doesnt have an agent, he doesnt earn 100k money every year, he is a person who has bad and good sides to him and he is just someone you see on street every day.

When a comment made about Jack's personality has made thats okay but %90 of the comments i see on here about Jack is about his weight, good or bad we shouldnt make these comments. I dont even like him btw.

Thats why we see 16 models in a season, i wanna see people from every place of life and i hope we will see more diverse casts in future seasons.

I don't like using the word fat I am certainly concerned for his health. He has a ferocious appetite for sweet and stodgy food and very little willpower. My cousin had the same problem he just ate and ate and didn't care about the consequences. Eventually he developed heart problems and had to have a gastric band put in which is the last ditch solution. I agree that all shapes and sizes age and ethnic divides should be on BB but from what I have seen of Jack I think he should try and exercise a bit more and eat healthier food for his own sake

VanessaFeltz. 15-07-2015 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 8000342)
I don't like using the word fat I am certainly concerned for his health. He has a ferocious appetite for sweet and stodgy food and very little willpower. My cousin had the same problem he just ate and ate and didn't care about the consequences. Eventually he developed heart problems and had to have a gastric band put in which is the last ditch solution. I agree that all shapes and sizes age and ethnic divides should be on BB but from what I have seen of Jack I think he should try and exercise a bit more and eat healthier food for his own sake

I agree he should but when we talk about it THAT MUCH, it will only make him unconfortable and unfortunately it is his choice to make :shrug:


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