What a Stink : The USA President is in the UK to tell us to stay in Europe
 

Feck Me

Our PM should Fly out there and tell All Americans
to Vote For Trump.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Well said Arista - The USA has very strong ulterior motives for wanting us to remain in the fecked up EU.

Are we not going to mention the ulterior motives for wanting out?... Ok.

Has Obama not got a phone then

:laugh: Excellent point Josy.

Just as bad as the bank of England Canadian doing the same thing. Obama did it with Scottish Independence. Its the ruling classes telling the lumpen proletariat what do do

shameful

It's a double shame, because it seems all the most vociferous self-proclaimed Left leaning members on here are supporting Cameron and The EU. Denmark is not the only state where something is rotten methinks. :laugh:

Whoops - I've had a warning and infraction for feck all today - you don't think this comment will get me another do you?

He can have an opinion but I don't think it'll affect British public opinion much. Having said that, I do want to stay in.

Good for you Josh - and welcome back.

Why don't you post your reasons for wanting to remain in the EU on the Referendum thread. I'd be really and genuinely interested in reading them.

Sure thing and thanks for the welcome back :)

yea, because Brits NEVER make their thoughts on American politics known... lol

We have to, to keep our eye on you.

If we wasn't there to hold your hand, it'd be mayhem.

Brute needs brains behind it.

We should stay cause when ww3 breaks out because of Trump we'll need people on our side.

:laugh: You know that I am pro-American Alex, but there are longstanding political reasons why the USA desires the UK to be in the EU.

This is very informative:

http://thebrexitdoor.com/2016/02/18/...icy-in-europe/

Now - with great respect, and out of genuine confusion - will you please explain just what you mean so that I can respond?

I stated that the USA had ulterior motives for wanting us in the EU (and its predecessors) because they have.

This might enlighten you:

http://thebrexitdoor.com/2016/02/18/...icy-in-europe/


But I do not know ANY possible ulterior motives that anyone could have for wanting a Brexit.

No one NEEDS an ulterior motive - there is a plethora of GENUINE reasons for wanting out.

I'm sorry ITILY, but if WW3 did break out (GOD forbid) the main ally I want to see 'on our side' is the USA.

What is this a blog?
This guy states the US bailed us out post war and that had we handed back our dependencies then it would've been better than attempting to maintain our colonial stranglehold.
During the cold war years the US were at war with Vietnam there is no mention of this, but may be a reason they required extra funds, or the space race..
It is odd that as is happening today under the tories money is siphoned off under the guise of 'technology' never to be seen again.

The section surrounding Polaris is patchy, if the US were so determined to get us into Europe then why risk irking De Gaulle?

In essence all I see here is the absence of Nixon ( naturally) and the perfect storm that is required when tory and republican forces collide.

As a side note it was interesting to see that France had issues with British agricultural policy way back...

DeGaulle, for his part, had the issue of Agriculture at the centre of his reasoning for denying British entry,

I got a way to send him back - I am going to write him some beautiful poetry :joker:

I personally would prefer Obama to be neutral publicly on this,naturally make his views known to the PM of course.
I also doubt that is all he is coming over for too.

Then again as Lostalex says,we get into USA issues and elections too.I dislike Trump but we have had people here calling for him to be banned from Britain.

Having said that, Obama knows we have USA companies in the UK wo in part are here for the full access they can get to the EU too.
So if such companies have suggested they prefer the UK staying in,then their President should be able to express his view.
After all the Indian PM inferred he wanted the UK to stay in the EU too as I believe maybe China has too.

For me personally,I am just glad he is another voice advocating remaining in.
I doubt his views however will change how people think on either side anyway as to their own intentions.

I would prefer Obama keep his nose out of our affairs personally. He is trying to make his presidency have some value in its last months it seems. He has already been critical of France and the UK's handling of Libya when he refused to get involved at the time, and also critical of our slowness in Syria, when it was the will of the British parliament that we not get involved sooner. There is clearly no loved lost between him and Cameron, so he can't be sticking his oar in as a personal favour in support of Cameron, its purely to try and make himself relevant when his term is all but done.

Should we not be interested in the opinion of our closest ally? We don't live in a bubble, this decision does not affect us only

Who actually wants us out, in terms of world leaders?

Isn't this the guy who couldn't be bothered to turn up for the Paris march after Charlie Hebdo?

There must be something in it for him this time, probably a plate of dinner at the Palace and the ass-licking hospitality that Cameron will give him.

No one, and its interesting that the Leavers go on about how the EU prevents us doing more business with India and China yet both of their leaders want us to stay in

Oh he's finally said something worthwile :clap1:

It's a bit silly to compare Obama's thoughts on the EU to a hypothetical situation in which Cameron endorses a racist presidential candidate that would set the most powerful country in the world back 60 years.

I've not seen any good reasons to leave the EU, most of the arguments for an exit seem rather short sighted and reactionary to me.

What does that have to do with anything?

This thread is about Barack Obama, My post was about Barack Obama.

Hopefully that clears up that little mystery.

Well no that clears up nothing, what does the Charlie Hebdo incident have to do with the referendum and why does it mean that Obama can't have an opinion on it?

Does it apply to everyone or just the people whose opinions you disagree with?

I apologise for causing upset and anger. it wasn't intended.

Alf
I am Angry at this Out Going President
its not for his Gob.

Vested Interests at heart
of course

Meh.I doubt very much that it'll change anybodies mind.Brits will just think he should mind his own business tbh.

In 100 days the vote can get close


Using a Outside American Leader
Stinks

He is not however the only leader of a Country to say his views as to the UK staying in or out.
I am sure his visit here is not purely for that purpose too.

He is not likely to make up anyone's minds or change the minds of those already made up,I see no problem with him saying what he thinks as to our future, in or out of the EU,we do also claim to have a 'special relationship' with the USA anyway.

Usually we at least listen to anyone we supposedly have a special relationship with, whether we take any notice is another matter.

Yes but is to Corrupt.


We can still be Mates with USA
Out of EU

Thats my point

Better Fair Trading

Fecker

Now Confirmed to the UK visit
next month.

ref: Ch5HD News


He will see the EU Outta The Queen.

and the EU inner The PM

:nono: now now you know that was pinoccigove.

The USA President
arrives in England this Friday

Europe Matters are not his say so.

If Obama believes it's best for us to be in the EU, then why don't the US join the Union too?

Why don't the US have there laws made elsewhere?
Why don't the US have a free movement for every member of a Union?

If you don't practice it, then don't preach it.

What an insult to the British people by the US saying we couldn't prosper without it.

As said many times before he is only one of many voices from other Countries around the World expressing a view as to the UK in the EU.
He is bound to have an interest in the continent of Europe showing coming together rather than splitting up in any way.

One of many voices is his on this issue from the USA to India and even including China and oddly enough all are saying the same, they would prefer to see the UK remain in the EU.