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lily. 10-02-2007 07:51 AM

My Statement
 
Regarding all the drama of last night… here’s my take on things.

A while back in MSN, Lance and I were discussing how it would be funny if it turned out that I actually knew James in real life because we live quite near each other and I do know a few people from his town. Then we started joking around that maybe I had even gone out with him in the past, as I had also been out with one or two people from his area. Then Lance began to create this elaborate lie about a sordid affair. We were laughing and obviously weren’t being serious. Shortly after, Tanser got in on the joke as well, then it seemed to spread via small comments on MSN and in TiBB.

Now, everyone was well aware that this was obviously a joke and there was no malice or ill intent. However, if anyone had been offended or upset by it, then I would obviously have stopped. Nobody seemed to be upset or offended. James didn’t seem to be taking it any more seriously than anyone else, so I didn’t actually see the harm in it.

Then we had the “snippets” thread. And, of course, that was a perfect opportunity for our more creative members to use the “fake rumour” to create humorous news stories. Again, I didn’t see the harm, as I wasn’t aware of anyone who was upset or offended by it.

Now, after last night, it seems that Sasha has taken all this a tad personally. It was never my intention to get into a fight with anyone, especially over something that is clearly tongue-in-cheek. Things turned sour rather quickly last night, and it’s now blown way out of proportion.

I really do not have any interest in James and Sasha’s relationship. They are both consenting adults and it’s none of my concern. I wasn’t attempting to sabotage the relationship (as has been implied). Nor was Markus (who incidentally is not my “hobbit” and is perfectly capable of making his own decisions).

It’s sad that things got nasty. Sasha obviously presumed that she could say and do anything regardless of Forum Rules because of her online relationship with Forum Admin. I might point out that Kizwiz has an actual relationship with a Moderator, yet she doesn’t abuse this situation to her advantage.

Sasha and I were getting along rather well up until last night. Things have taken a dramatic downturn, which is pathetic, because after all, this is only the internet.

I don’t come here to fight with people. I come here for a laugh and a bit of light-hearted banter. If things have to be taken so seriously all the time, then it’s a sad reflection of what this forum has become.

I’m done.

stacey 10-02-2007 08:11 AM

i dont know what happened last night ill go and read

Sophii3x 10-02-2007 08:25 AM

I thought it was all a big joke, but obviously Sasha took it personal.

easypeasy 10-02-2007 08:31 AM

i always miss out on the good ****.......lmao

Ruth*Star 10-02-2007 08:39 AM

^^I know, When-ever i'm away something big happens

Jay 10-02-2007 08:55 AM

Blimey how can you write that much first thing in the morning lol, what i sore it did look like a joke.

~Kizwiz~ 10-02-2007 09:05 AM

This is very noble of you Stropz and I'm sure it clears somethings up.

The snippets thread was clearly a giggle. And there was things said that was far worse than yours honey.

I still don't understand what went wrong and how things got out of hand. I guessed that the tale of you and James was a giggle too........ and I assume most of the other members did.

Now I have also been annoyed at some comments by the other member involved but I shan't go into that. I would just rather that be dropped.

Its a new day so lets just start again.

Tanser_Man 10-02-2007 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by kizwiz
This is very noble of you Stropz and I'm sure it clears somethings up.

The snippets thread was clearly a giggle. And there was things said that was far worse than yours honey.

I still don't understand what went wrong and how things got out of hand. I guessed that the tale of you and James was a giggle too........ and I assume most of the other members did.

Now I have also been annoyed at some comments by the other member involved but I shan't go into that. I would just rather that be dropped.

Its a new day so lets just start again.
I knew i took it too far! Dammit.

Don't really know what happened last night but i have gathered bits and bobs. Seems peoples have crossed wires on a few 'nothing' posts, but the beauty of a forum is the chance to make things right and iron out such issues.

Well Done you Stroppy Cow!

~Kizwiz~ 10-02-2007 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Tanser_Man
I knew i took it too far! Dammit.

naaaaa babe....... it wasnt you...... me and you are used to the banter :whistle:

lily. 10-02-2007 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Sophii3x
I thought it was all a big joke, but obviously Sasha took it personal.
Unfortunately, yes.
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Originally posted by Rebel.Ruth
^^I know, When-ever i'm away something big happens
Whenever something big happens, I'm always in the middle of it!
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Originally posted by Jay
Blimey how can you write that much first thing in the morning lol, what i sore it did look like a joke.
I can write that much in the morning because a) It had to be said...b) I think fast ... and c) I type faster!...And yeah, it was a joke. I wish James or Sasha had just told me it was bothering them, then all this could have been avoided.
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Originally posted by kizwiz
This is very noble of you Stropz and I'm sure it clears somethings up.

The snippets thread was clearly a giggle. And there was things said that was far worse than yours honey.

I still don't understand what went wrong and how things got out of hand. I guessed that the tale of you and James was a giggle too........ and I assume most of the other members did.

Now I have also been annoyed at some comments by the other member involved but I shan't go into that. I would just rather that be dropped.

Its a new day so lets just start again.
It's probably too late to clear things up, but I've had my say now, and I'm done with the issue. I agree, it's a new day.
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Originally posted by Tanser_Man
I knew i took it too far! Dammit.

Don't really know what happened last night but i have gathered bits and bobs. Seems peoples have crossed wires on a few 'nothing' posts, but the beauty of a forum is the chance to make things right and iron out such issues.

Well Done you Stroppy Cow!
You didn't take it too far. It was just taken the wrong way. And, kiz is right, there were far worse things said in the snippets thread, not least about myself.. but, if everyone doesn't take it in the manner it was intended, then it causes problems.

~Kizwiz~ 10-02-2007 09:40 AM

A joke is a joke at the end of the day...... if I find something offensive i report it.

The snippets thread was a outlet for a little fun..... it wasn't serious or malicious. So if anyone found my post offensive then I'm sorry too but nobody said they were hurt or upset.

It seemed to blow up out of nowhere and reading back on the threads today I still can't fathom what went wrong.

Seems like its all shrouded

lily. 10-02-2007 09:41 AM

I'm not even going to bother reading back.. I caught the live version and I'm no better informed..:laugh:

I'm going to make a news story, I just cant decide who my next victim will be.

MarkWaldorf 10-02-2007 10:02 AM

I left like 12:30am, did it all explode then?

SiMoN! 10-02-2007 10:41 AM

I thought it was all a joke, and to me it looked like everone was playing along with the joke

MarkWaldorf 10-02-2007 10:42 AM

Same Simon, I didn't realise she took it personally. No harm intended.

SiMoN! 10-02-2007 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by Markus™
Same Simon, I didn't realise she took it personally. No harm intended.
after reading back

it seems she cant tack a joke

MarkWaldorf 10-02-2007 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by SiMoN!
Quote:

Originally posted by Markus™
Same Simon, I didn't realise she took it personally. No harm intended.
after reading back

it seems she cant tack a joke
Seems that way. She's taken the Jamsha thing a bit too seriously. Last night wasn fun though. :laugh:

SiMoN! 10-02-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Markus™
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Originally posted by SiMoN!
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Originally posted by Markus™
Same Simon, I didn't realise she took it personally. No harm intended.
after reading back

it seems she cant tack a joke
Seems that way. She's taken the Jamsha thing a bit too seriously. Last night wasn fun though. :laugh:
lol i missed it
:yuk:

fay to seriously. she can joke about other people but when the jokes on her she dont like it i think

MarkWaldorf 10-02-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by SiMoN!
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Originally posted by Markus™
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Originally posted by SiMoN!
Quote:

Originally posted by Markus™
Same Simon, I didn't realise she took it personally. No harm intended.
after reading back

it seems she cant tack a joke
Seems that way. She's taken the Jamsha thing a bit too seriously. Last night wasn fun though. :laugh:
lol i missed it
:yuk:

fay to seriously. she can joke about other people but when the jokes on her she dont like it i think
That's very true. :thumbs: Well done. :laugh:

~Kizwiz~ 10-02-2007 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SiMoN!
she can joke about other people but when the jokes on her she dont like it i think
My sentiments exactly. Things have been said about Red and I..... yes I know we joke between us, but I took the recent weeks as light banter.

Sunny_01 10-02-2007 11:07 AM

Hat off to you Stropz!

This is the problem when people like a joke but then they decide it isnt funny anymore without letting anyone else know about it!

Knowing you of old I doubt that there would have been any malice intended Stropz, and maybe people need to think about the intent of posts before they actually make them.

Everyone on this forum needs to follow the rules irespective of who they are or are not in a relationship with, otherwise it makes the rules a waste of time.

I just hope that new day new smiles applies in this case :cheer:

Lauren 10-02-2007 11:30 AM

I just read the thread now, cos I missed most of the "action" last night.

Well done for the statement, Stropz. You basically hit the nail on the head in saying she couldn't take a joke when clearly humour was intended.

Plus most of her posts last night were wrote in text speak :whistle:

Emilee 10-02-2007 02:03 PM

WOWZER! How can a joke like that get out of control. Obviously a total missinterpretaion of what happened and was taken to seriously.

Good Statement Stropz.:xyxwave:

GiRTh 10-02-2007 02:10 PM

Dammit. I always miss out on the good stuff.

Lance 10-02-2007 02:48 PM

I can't understand how my name was brought into this at all. :angel:

Siouxsie 10-02-2007 02:50 PM

I missed it all too. Best forget it now though. Got to admit though stropz I thought it was all for a bit of a joke. and i love the snippets thread. Especially the one you done on me :hug:

GiRTh 10-02-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Siouxsie
I missed it all too. Best forget it now though. Got to admit though stropz I thought it was all for a bit of a joke. and i love the snippets thread. Especially the one you done on me :hug:
Where's the snippets thread?

MarkWaldorf 10-02-2007 02:51 PM

:hugesmile: The snippets thread is great!

GiRTh 10-02-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Markus™
:hugesmile: The snippets thread is great!
Where is it? I've looked but can't find it.

MarkWaldorf 10-02-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by GRiT
Quote:

Originally posted by Markus™
:hugesmile: The snippets thread is great!
Where is it? I've looked but can't find it.
Here

GiRTh 10-02-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Markus™
Quote:

Originally posted by GRiT
Quote:

Originally posted by Markus™
:hugesmile: The snippets thread is great!
Where is it? I've looked but can't find it.
Here
Ah that one.

Cheers.

Siouxsie 10-02-2007 02:57 PM

yes tibb snippets on chat and games :joker::joker::joker:

Sasha 10-02-2007 03:52 PM

Ive only come on as i have been told about your statement on MSN. I guess some could call it gracious, but grace wouldve attempted to resolve the situation in private!

Since i have come on to TIBB i have done nothing except have a laugh, it is not my intention to have e-fight/e-conflicts with people. Anyone who has objectivity can see everyone of my posts have been about having a joke - there is too much drama in the real world without the need for it in cyberland!

I am new and have no awareness of the history you and other members share. However, if i did it still does not affect me. I have had a laugh over the "rumour" about you and James in the past... and something I too found amusing. I am a tad disapointed it is NOT true as according to you he was good in bed.

It is normal for the jealous e-girlfriend to get angry with her e-bf's lover, it was all part of the joke. A joke i thought you were playing but decided NOT too when it offended you.

If you were offended by the witch comment you couldve u2u'd me and i would have edited it. If you thought it was a geniunue insult then let me assure you "witch" and "dog" are not the insults i would use if i was REALLY affected by your actions and angry at you.

As i was NOT taking you or the whole rumour seriously i didnt viciously insult you with a barrage of swear words or bring in anything REALLY personal about you. A geniunely ANGRY person would have.

In all reality I thought this "e-rift" wouldve been a good next chapter to the Jamesha story plot... The whole time it was going on I was in MSN with James taking the piss out of him and actually trying to see why he didnt meet you as you lived so close. I even asked you in for a 3some (which you sadly declined).

I am assuming your statement was written as you were "spoken to", only cos i was spoken to last night for my "behaviour". I was shocked that moderators intervened in what was obviously a joke and it took it to a next level.

I was also very angry to find out I was given special treatment, I had no idea until about 1.30am that mods were asked NOT to warn me.

Yes I have abused my e-relationship on TIBB but that was only to get new icons and not to avoid the TIBB rules. It was only at that stage I was informed that people were upset that i had insulted you. Up until that stage I assumed it was part of the joke.

As a mod myself, (on another site) this situation couldve been ressolved by a simple u2u to check if it was still a joke OR a u2u saying the joke has got out of hand. However there was none of that and I was oblivious to the fact it was becoming a "drama" becuase the whole time i was viewing James pics in MSN (What a hottie!).

As for me and James, yes it was a little bit of e-fun to start with, to be honest it was never part of the "sasha plan" for him to submit - i like the chase! But over the past week i am glad he has as he is a nice guy and a great e-buddy who i can chat to for ages about everything.

I was banned last night over this for x hours, and decided to leave as i couldnt believe i would get banned for having a laugh. I decided after my ban that TIBB was way to serious for my type of humour and wasnt the place for me. Maybe an over reaction, but people do hasty things when they are angry and upset.

Lauren 10-02-2007 04:08 PM

Fair enough Sasha, but there's been instances where you have broken rules for other things. All of them piled together would've probably got you a longer ban but they seemed to be overlooked (Not your fault, but being a mod on another site you should have taken the rules into account).

Siouxsie 10-02-2007 04:11 PM

:whistle::whistle::whistle: hope everyone is friends again :hug::flowers:

lily. 10-02-2007 04:15 PM

I wasn't "spoken to" at all regarding last night. I chose to leave as I thought the situation was becoming nasty, and I didn't want to get into an argument on the internet (as per my signature quote). Also, you may or may not know, I'm already on one warning, and a further warning carries an automatic 48 hour ban. I'm not exactly TiBB's Good Girl.

I made the statement here this morning, because I wanted to air my views. I'm not in the habit of going behind people's backs when things are irritating me. That was the main reason for me posting a thread out in the main. I was rather hoping James would respond to it, and to be honest, I'm glad you responded to it. I'm well known here for speaking my mind. It's not always a good thing, but I figure that honesty is the best policy.

I agree with what you said about drama in real life. Also, I'm sure you will agree that jokes sometimes do not come across well on the net, because there are no facial expressions or body language to read, and sometimes things can get misconstrued.

I enjoyed our chats prior to recent events, and would be happy to start over and forget this whole sorry episode. I hope we can move past it, however if you would rather not, then that is obviously your choice.

Sasha 10-02-2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stropz
I wasn't "spoken to" at all regarding last night. I chose to leave as I thought the situation was becoming nasty, and I didn't want to get into an argument on the internet (as per my signature quote). Also, you may or may not know, I'm already on one warning, and a further warning carries an automatic 48 hour ban. I'm not exactly TiBB's Good Girl.

I made the statement here this morning, because I wanted to air my views. I'm not in the habit of going behind people's backs when things are irritating me. That was the main reason for me posting a thread out in the main. I was rather hoping James would respond to it, and to be honest, I'm glad you responded to it. I'm well known here for speaking my mind. It's not always a good thing, but I figure that honesty is the best policy.

I agree with what you said about drama in real life. Also, I'm sure you will agree that jokes sometimes do not come across well on the net, because there are no facial expressions or body language to read, and sometimes things can get misconstrued.

I enjoyed our chats prior to recent events, and would be happy to start over and forget this whole sorry episode. I hope we can move past it, however if you would rather not, then that is obviously your choice.
Im glad thats sorted then, i apologise if you thought things were getting nasty..... maybe other things were going on as the posts alone werent THAT nasty.

But hey, its over now..... whenever you want a 3some you let me know.

Siouxsie 10-02-2007 04:20 PM

:lovedup::lovedup::lovedup: well said both of you

Sasha 10-02-2007 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lauren
Fair enough Sasha, but there's been instances where you have broken rules for other things. All of them piled together would've probably got you a longer ban but they seemed to be overlooked (Not your fault, but being a mod on another site you should have taken the rules into account).
I can not and will not be held responsible for the actions of others. I am not sure where i have broken the rules prior to this occassion, however if mods chose not to address me - your issue is with THEM and NOT with me.

I only came on to addres Stropz, i have read the rest of the comments on this thread and the word FICKLE descibes them aptly! :rolleyes:

lily. 10-02-2007 04:21 PM

Tell yer man to get his sorry arze in here! He's the only one who aint said nothing yet.. typical... :rolleyes:.. Leave it to the women to sort it out.. :tongue:


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