Why did Jade behave as she did?
 

Most people here probably agree that Jade didn't beahve well, especially during "the argument" when she got /very/ angry. I was just wondering why everyone here thought she was like that?

because of how she was brought up and who she is, basically.

Because she's a jealous pig. She didn't like Shilpa because she was JEALOUS.

Because she thought the majority of people watching would be just like her.

She thought the majority of people watching would find bullying an acceptable way to get ahead, because the bully never see's it as bullying - and she was banking on the people watching thinking it was funny

Because she thought the majority of people would excuse her anything "cos she was just having a larf because thats what "real people" do

cos she's a big mouth chav

Because she's a big mouth and because her celebrity status has given her an ego.

She wouldn't have spken to say Halle Berry in that manner. She'd have chilled out if she knew how famous Shilpa was.

because she's an ignorant foul-mouthed moron.

I think she would've reacted in exactly the same way no matter who it may have been that looked down their nose at her and addressed her in that patronising, arrogant, hoity-toity manner. And Shilpa isn't (or rather wasn't, until that day) famous anywhere outside of India (other than to British citizens of Asian ethnic origin - 3.5% of the population / 2.1m). More to the point, would Halle Berry have been desperate enough to engineer an argument over a few stock cubes?

I think she would've reacted in exactly the same way no matter who it may have been that looked down their nose at her and addressed her in that patronising, arrogant, hoity-toity manner. And Shilpa isn't (or rather wasn't, until that day) famous anywhere outside of India (other than to British citizens of Asian ethnic origin - 3.5% of the population / 2.1m). More to the point, would Halle Berry have been desperate enough to engineer an argument over a few stock cubes? [/quote]

I do not agree. The point I am trying to make with this is that, in my opinion, Jade Goody thought she was one of the most famous people in that house. Shilpa Shetty is more famous but in a niche market. Thus, Jade had never heard of her. If Jade had been confronted by say Cameron Dias or Halle Berry or Julia Robert i.e. Some one who she knew was more famous than she was, I do not think Jade would have kicked off over Oxo cube.

I do think that Jade is very much a loose cannon and no on can predict how she’d act but, any one of the actresses I named would have more fans watching than Jade and thus her attitude would have been different. I note that she never raised her voice to Jermaine. She had a small spat with Dirk but I would go as far as to say that she kissed Jermaines ass.

Amazing to think this is the press she got only a few weeks ago

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1879

Actually, she was the most famous person in the house. When she was trying to explain to the American hm's who she was, she just trotted out a soundbite from a few press clippings that her agent no doubt gave her to make her more malleable for the next profit making scheme on the horizon. In all of that, her response was quite artless. The show was screened in the UK. Even if you counted the entire UK population that belongs to an ethnic minority with Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi origins, it would still be dwarfed by the audience figures for BB3. Shilpa is (or rather was) pretty much only famous in India, and again this was a UK show. So from no viable viewpoint was Shilpa more famous than Jade. And correction - it was Shilpa who 'kicked off over an Oxo cube', rather than Jade.

That's quite definitely true. She won't let anyone talk down to her, just because she's working class. She may not have the vocabulary to get her point across as eloquently as some, but credit to her for not being anyone's doormat. She didn't have any argument with Jermaine because he never had the nerve to say any of the garbage he was constantly spouting about her in the bedroom to her face. It's not her fault that Jermaine is a coward, after all.

Because it's worth millions of pounds to act like she does.

^not sure what the hell you're talking about...but shilpa is more famous than jade...

No it wasnt, it was Jade.

Shilpa went to enquire about the whereabouts of the missing oxo cubes, and after finding out the greedy selfish children had wasted them all on themselves, Shilpa should have told them all off, but she didnt, she tried to contain her justified annoyance until the disrepectful tramp started mouthing off like she is always so desperate to do.

How on earth can you justify pretending India doesnt exist just for your argument. Thats ridiculous!:laugh:

She is now, but she wasn't the night that Jade first walked into the house. This is a UK tv show we're talking about. Her popularity in India, and to ethnic minorities elsewhere, is meaningless in the context of the show because it was only screened in the UK. When people tuned into BB this year, virtually all of them knew who Jade was. But only a tiny fraction had any idea who Shilpa was. That's a basic fact, and it really shouldn't need continual, lengthy explanation.

Haha. Do you know absolutely nothing about reality, or are you just winding people up for a laugh?

In a world of green skies and blue grass, perhaps.

No, Shilpa started whining because her fellow housemates had dared to consume food which they all had equal rights to. Shilpa's response was puerile, petty and childish. She started the argument, and it was clearly her intent to have an argument about pretty much anything from the moment she walked into the room.


My, aren't you the charmer? I don't need to justify the blatantly obvious, nor pretend anything. The answer to your commennt is right there in the segment of my post which you've quoted. It's a UK show. Ergo, it's not being watched in India (save for a tiny number who may have access to satellite tv, perhaps). Is there anything else you'd like to twist from fact to fiction?


It seems you like an argument. Well, fasten your seatbelt, kiss yourself a St. Christopher and pluck yourself a four-leaved clover. But you'll need something a little more substantial than feeble insults. Otherwise, you may as well get your coat right now.

You won't be getting an argument from me sugar, Ive seen the stuff that you come out with, and theres nothing much more to be said.

I may come back and play if im bored, but dont expect my A game until you step up your sense of reality a bit.

Does the expression "I'm a Scorpion" ring any bells?

she had over a hundred million fans ... fans in india, pakistan, bangladesh, malaysia, canada, us, uk, australia before she entered the house...i'm sure jade is only known in the UK....jade was jealous and insecure and so she decided to attack her...

Veiled platitudes. How sweet. That's cool. We all have our limits.

LOL! It's she who holds the strings, dear. I'm here to debate with (hopefully) intelligent people, not to play Xbox doubles.

I'm not disputing the accuracy of your comments as to how famous she may have been when she entered the house. That doesn't change the fact that it was a UK show, and in the UK, she was essentially a nobody to the vast majority of the audience. Dirk was also famous worlwide, too. That didn't mean that most of the audience weren't too young to recognise him, either.

I was talking fame worldwide rather than UK fame...you're right about shilpa not being as famous as jade in the UK pre BB....anyhow.....now shilpa is a somebody and jade is a nobody in the UK

If youre on about catching lions then youre out of context. You cant blame the lions for ignoring antagonistic scorpions.

If youre not on about lions, forget I mentioned it.:thumbs:

I don't think Shilpa was spoiling for an argument. She was in the kitchen with Cleo and everything was fine. Shilpa asked where the stock cubes were and Cleo said that the girls had had them. There were a lot of people in the house - to have that many stock cubes was selfish. Shilpa made the point, and then she walked away. It was Jade who kicked off (making a point is not the same as kicking off), and carried the argument on.

I think she went out of her way and positively engineered it. She's a clever lady, and she picked the perfect moment to strike while the iron was hot. Her whole point of starting an argument over a few Oxo cubes was absolutely pathetic, and again it's ridiculous that it's being brushed under the carpet. She went on and on and on, because she needed to keep the argument stoked until it exploded. At that part of the argument, Shilpa was 100% in the wrong. And if Jade had only kept her mouth shut at that point, we perhaps wouldn't be here now. But I think Shilpa would've seized another moment to contrive something in due course. And yes, Jade kicked things off for the second part of the argument, after much provocation from Shilpa earlier. She should have left it as it was. The stills of Jade at full throttle weren't nice to see, nor was some of the language she used nice to hear. But her stance was correct all the same, even though she should've left well alone after part one.

Charlotte Sometimes, you need to EDUCATE yourself. Where in the world did you get the idea that only indian people are captivated by the whole Bollywood scene. I have friends of different ethnicities who prefer to see an Indian movie rather than say, a western one, for various reasons. Italians for example love indian movies and so do lots of English, Norwegians etc who are here and abroad. I think that it is only you living in your own little tiny world, lacking a global outlook and sounding completely and utterly like someone with a partial chav mentality. Examine yourself closely. Get out. Get around. Live life more fully.

Because that's Jade. What you see is what you get with her. Foul mouthed? Yes. Moron? Probably. Ignorant & Jealous? Defiantly. Jade doesn’t exactly practice what she preaches, but she stands up for what she believes, although she doesn’t exactly go about it the right way. I think Jade didn’t like Shilpa because she was too controlling and when Shilpa started off about the Oxo cubes it tipped Jade over the edge. It was a stupid pathetic argument and there was no need for it.

The words hit, nail & head come to mind.

I totally agree that what you see is what you get with Jade. The trouble is - what you see isn't very nice, and therefore what you get isn't very nice.

We can only summise what actually happened! The Big Brother show has editors who have NO choice, but to edit it down from 24 hours to less than 1 hour of footage.

What everybody saw, was the juicy bits. The argument, especially. That helps the ratings significantly!

We may have missed, what started all this off. Maybe Shilpa patronised Jade Goody in something very small, but Jade Goody held back, but was boiling with anger inside?

We just don't know. Try not to judge her completely, by what you see. Jade Goody will argue and say stuff. She get's angry and likes to tell people, in a way, which differs to Shilpa Shetty. She is a completely fifferent type of person. More well mannered and a different attitude.

She is NO better than Jade Goody, just different.

The "Race" issue is always going to come to mind, as it is the point that, "Gordon Brown" made, while being in India.

Bad timing or good timing? who knows and who cares!

Jade Goody is now fighting to get back to some kind of normality. She shall continue to try and I hope she wins.

Some positive response would be great.


Give Jade Goody a reason to believe that she can fight and can win. She deserves a "let-off", for such a minor thing, which should not have become so major.

No long winded explanations from apologists will change the simple and basic facts in the case of Jade Goody.

She is a serial bully
She is a loud mouthed pig ignorant harpy.
She is a self absorbed media ***** for whom nothing and nobody [without any exception] are as important to her as her "career" of supposed celebrity


There...wasn't that simple - just like Jade herself

...because shes a fat, fuc|<ing, self-centred, insecure, phony, ***** who couldn't take the fact that shilpa was much better than her in terms of looks, class, personality. I'm not sure how shilpa was able to remain calm, I would have butchered the pig.

On a more serious note it all stemmed from jealousy, insecurity and the fact that jade was intimidated by shilpa's confidence and intellegence which all led to hatred and racist overtones; shilpa wasn't a follower like jo and danielle which could have gotten to jade, and so it was a clash of two strong personalities.

You are getting all worked up, over your own opinions of what you see on the Celebrity Big Brother show 2007.

Try to calm down and get that Shilpa/Jade thingy out of your mind.

She came over as bullyish on that show and admitted this and appologised too.

She does shout and create on these reality shows. I have heard many more shoutings and loud mouth's too.

But, what Jade Goody is experiencing now, is certainly more serious than the other stuff. AGREED??

(Pig ignorant harpy?) That says to me, that you don't like her? So, you want others to follow your lead? right!

Jade Goody did have a career and was in great demand too.

Big Brother wanted her twice! Why is that?

(self absorbed media *****)???!!!???

" can't understand that comment? " Is it meant in a sexual way? The word "*****" tends to make it sound, well???

Jade doesn't need to be jealous.

She would never say that in an interview, as Jade Goody is not jealous of Shilpa Shetty. Why would she be jealous?

Jade Goody is happy with her life.

Why would she want to swap her life for Shilpa's?

Shilpa Shetty is just a Bollywood film star and that is it.

She may be nice, but so what!! Many people pretend to be nice, but underneath, there is a deeper and darker side, which is hidden from reality shows.

Jade Goody is just a bubbly, friendly, quirky and funny person.

Easy to get on with, if you want to.

There is a saying:- "You can't choose your friends, your friends choose you!"

JADE GOODY WON'T CALL SHILPA SHETTY A FRIEND, BECAUSE IT AIN'T LIKE THAT, OKAY!!!

Very thorough response!!

SHOULD I BOTHER REPLYING??? OKAY!!
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Your "Media *****" comment, is just your opinion of a very successful person, who has come from nowhere and made it big.

Perhaps, "Chantelle" could be described as the same? I wouldn't agree with that! and nor would Jade.
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You talk about Big Brother and Endemol. All I know, is, that they wanted her and had cash to give. The rest of your remarks are invisible to me?
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Jade's career has had a nasty knock. Worse than anyone could imagine. I am here to support her and fight her corner, but she has her priorities with her children. The career part, is not so important now.

She has enough to retire!
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I don't expect people to follow my lead. You, want people to follow your lead. I just tell it like it is, like the lovely Jade Goody would. No lies told from me. Just facts and information.
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You say that, you reap what you sow?

If Jade Goody had argued and taunted, (Cleo), you think that she would have been placed in this position?

Think again!!

This was about Racism and nothing else.

Shilpa Shetty is an Indian, bollywood film star and many people were offended, worldwide.

It is ONLY about that, which has placed Jade Goody and the girls in this position.
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You say, "None so vile and frequent". Jade Goody must be a housemate that nobody would want to know, then?

How come, many housemates talk to her and also stay friends, even after the show?

Jade Goody is very sociable. But, along the way, she will meet some people who just don't click with her. Like, "Rick Waller", (for example).

She said that he smelt! "He did smell, Jade was telling the truth"

She said that he could do better with losing his weight, that he didn't try much". This is true. Look at Jade Goody and what she has done to lose weight.

Rick should buy her video and see if he can prove Jade Goody wrong?
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Jade Goody did admit that she was rather bullyish towards Shilpa and was going to make ammends.

She was in tears, due to her worrying about her childrens safety and also, herself and her mother too. She also wants a life, without all of this nastiness. I don't blame her!
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The Shilpa/bullying thing was not that bad. It was much worse on other reality shows, with Jade Goody, not even being there. Other housemates causing havoc.

Jade Goody is in demand, much more, when her acted bad behavior is present. It makes everyone money and Jade Goody will make the person who she has had a slight disagreement with, much better, with a hug usually and some sympathetic words from a nice girl, who does not bear grudges.
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You will get worked up, as there are very few, if any people who shall come on here and support Jade Goody in such a passionate manner. Using facts and picking holes in your theories, of what Jade Goody has apparently done wrong?

I expect a mass of Jade-Haters to be present.

But there is still right's on Jade Goody's camp. The right to NOT be called a racist person, when their is NO evidence to support this matter.

Endemol will catagorically say, that they will never let racism happen on the Big Brother show.

There may have been some words, or sentances, which some may have construed has being so, but they certainly weren't.

None of them hate Indian or Asian people. They have friends who are of that particular race or even mixed race. It is just the media, getting out of hand and Jade Goody, who has been much loved by many people, mostly in Englands green and pleasant land, is now, trapped, right in the middle of this mess.

Can i just say, nodisharmony, im loving your posts.

Thankyou!

I just try to get the message across.

People just won't listen! But I know exactly how Jade Goody has been placed.

It is unjust and she will succeed.

NEVERMIND THE JADE-HATERS.

I am here to support her again, like I did before.