Brexit poll voters turning to far right out of frustration
 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...main-sh5n8vchq

Unfortunately this is the effect of all the games being played by the remainers and their total disrespect for the outcome of a valid public vote. Both extremes are now in play and dominating Brexit and the political spectrum in general. They reap what they sow I think.

People just want what they voted for - out of the EU and making our own way in the world and not being forced by the EU to abide by their rules on many issues.

I dont think thats the correct conclusion tbf

Tories are right
Ukip are far right (debatably)

May has ****ed brexit up to heavens and back

Brexiteers are no longer tory supporters

You can blame it on the lefties if ya like, I just think my reasoning I thought up off the top of my head this second is probably more accurate

Sure
you would expect this to happen.

:dance: give the people what they want #democracy

May is a remainer at heart hence her wishy, washy efforts at Brexit. We do need to replace her with someone whose heart is in the right place as far as Brexit is concerned. UKIP are not really far-right but have been labelled that way by the Left for obvious reasons. But if this undermining of Brexit continues real far-right groups will likely increase. Cause and effect.

The publics’ reaction to this combined with the remainers constant push to overturn the vote was foreseeable I think- so I believe the conclusion was correct.

Well the article you selected refers to ukip as far right... so therefore your own thread does too...

Point proven. Just the type of pushing driving people to extremes. :rolleyes:

Why would you overturn the publics current wishes based on their opinion 2 years ago?

Doesnt seem bery democratic brillo.

Thats why so many people are turning far left. Right wing people trying to ignore their current opinions

The vote is over. Time to move on.

Lots of things are voted on more than once, because mindsets change over time. This may be one of them, especially considering that new polling information that you disregarded from the article you wanted to talk about lol.

I hope you are up for a third vote then! The polling information changes all the time (where’s the poll btw).

Hypothetically if we voted to remain after all the past years of nonsense, of course there would be a third vote eventually. Ukip wouldnt just be like “oh well, nice try guys, time to give up forever”

The article writes about a few different yougov polls, i havent looked for the original source.

Boris is the most popular choice to negotiate brexit, and would be the only tory that could compete against corbyn in the next election according to the polls.

As I say these polls change. Mogg would stand a good chance against Corbyn in the next election as Corbyn is going downhill fast. His days are numbered in my opinion.

most people that voted brexit wanted control of immigration back, they wanted to stop paying money to the EU, they wanted to stop being dictated to by an unelected EU.

We still have to trade with the EU, they are our nearest neighbours, so we had to come to some agreement to facilitate that.

Given all the above, on leaving the EU, the UK will be getting pretty much what it wanted. Peoples opinions on the how we do things will always be different, but the principles still remain.

Corbyn is NOT 'going downhill fast', Brillo - slimy Corbyn has ALWAYS been a 'subterranean' creature and one cannot get any more 'downhill' than that.

It is his 'facade' which is slipping by the minute, leaving the true Marxist, anti-Democratic, buffoon of a traitor which is the REAL Corbyn, more and more exposed until even the most blindly loyal of his supporters cannot deny what he is any longer.

That’s what I meant Kirk - just not put as succinctly as by you. :hee:

I was referring to how Labour voters are now pulling away from him the more they hear about his antisemetic views. As most of his supporters are young and ostensibly believe in equality for all how can they support such a man without looking like total hypocrites.

That's funny, when I find myself frustrated I usually use a stress ball, rather than decide to become a neo-Nazi :think: Each to their own

Well yes...

In my opinion, very few people "turn hard-right" if they didn't already hold hard-right views, probably keeping them close to the chest. It seems like it would be more accurate to say that anger over Brexit is causing some people's anger to spill over to the point where they will openly express the hard-right views that they previously kept a lid on.

Oversimplification is an unfortunate occurrence on Tibb when it comes to certain subjects - politics being the main one affected.

I am 'Hard-Right' in some of my views, Centre-Left in others and even Liberal in others.

But I agree with T.S about frustration over Brexit causing some people to publicise views which have been long-held but well-hidden.

I'm like that. :hehe:

The whole world, sadly, Kirk :laugh2:

The brexiters voting in their droves for May's government in the election only have themselves to blame.

Any attempts to blame the left is just pure diversionary bull****. People ****ed up by voting tories because they bought into the 'strong and stable' **** despite all evidence showing that the Tory government go back on everything they said they would do. Too many people chose to vote in ignorance of the facts and a likely soft brexit is exactly what they voted for.

It's becoming clearer and clearer that the vision of Brexit that the public were sold just cannot be carried out.

Thats Not Fair Dezzy
at that 2017 Election
it was OUT the CUSTOM UNION
OUT THE SINGLE MARKET.

By BOTH party's
Labour as well./

Utter Rubbish
its not over yet.


Even the EU Parliament take a Holiday next month.

If due to votes down the road in Sept/Oct/Nov 2018
cause a General Election by error
then it will be like a 2ndReferendum

With Labour not being as a Messed up as the Conservatives,
Of course Labour are ready for this
thinking they will win.

But by then a new party maybe set up
by that time.

Of course it may work out that Brexit also goes through

So at this time the next general election
is 2022 month of may.


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The above is what I posted on Kirk official Brexit thread
Clever Jack posted after me.


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Some time ago I said to James
we may need a Brexit section.
Now loads of Brexit threads will be made.

Yet people voted for the party that was known for backtracking to such an extent that they backtracked on not having that election in the first place. That should have sent warning lights blaring but the people that voted for the tories did so anyway. If any of their voters are unhappy with the way brexit is going then they can only blame themselves for ignoring the signs that the Tories would inevitably backpeddle.

Dezzy if Labour WON
they also at that day
said OUT OF THE CUSTOM UNION
OUT OF THE SINGLE MARKET



So Either way - Backtracking
for feck sake

A common theme in many of your political posts are "only have their selves to blame", Trump, Tories, Ukip, Brexit etc etc

In other words your disdain for anyone who does not think like you is actually rather disturbing

What ifs are meaningless, what MIGHT have happened if Labour does not lessen the fact that the Tory voters that voted Tory thinking they'd get the brexit they wanted did so while ignoring the signs.

You're talking about possibilities but the reality of the matter is that we are most likely getting a soft brexit and it's exactly what the people voted for whether they like it or not. They voted for a flip floppy government and they got a flip floppy take on Brexit.

Labour Nearly Won

Conservative caused a Hung Parliament - Joined the DUP
to save her.


LABOUR at that Election Day
OUT of the SINGLE MARKET
OUT of the CUSTOM UNION.

Labour FECKING FLIPPED FLOPP
Look at what they want now
EU say NO way

Labour is also a flip flopper

Fact

"likely getting a soft brexit and it's exactly what the people voted for "

Not all voters wanted a Soft Brexit,
Dezzy/

Who else could they vote for. An antisemetic hard-Left hypocrite. Knowing what we all know now about both I expect a vote would be very similar. Lack of choice is the real issue.

Seems to me if we are to believe that the left is supposed to reign in their own extreme influences, then the principle should be that the right has to reign in their own as well... it can't be put all responsibility on the left. Not all our issues can be blamed entirely on one side, naturally, but we all share a bit of responsibility in keeping the whole thing more towards the center... is my first thought.

An irrelevant one since they arent running the show. Trying to attack me by bkeating on about labour is ultimately a waste of time.

People still voted for this government and their approach to Brexit. Crying about what ifs as a distraction is pointless.

This country is not a two party country. People cant complain if they vote for a party with a history of flip flopping and then they flip on an issue. We were never getting a hard brexit with May yet people voted for the tories. Votes have consequences.

If i had a pound for every "rise of the far right " in the last 40 years id be fecking minted

:joker:

A vote for one of the other smaller parties would likely have led to Corbyn getting in which would be an even worse disaster in the minds of many. As I said a lack of choice.

There was a choice though and many people that wanted a hard brexit went for an option in which they wouldn't get it.

I think it just goes to show, you should vote for who you believe in, you can't vote against someone because you'll end up in this situation where you lose anyway.