Homophobia rampant on Tibb
 

Well whats the deal?

Whats been you experience on here? Do you believe that maybe the problem is age? or ignorance? or somthing more sinister?

I find it quite disturbing,so usually i just sit back and read,but im surprised it isnt as policed as racism.

Maybe its just acceptable in the media and half these kids think its ok
as it was said on BBBM and various other media outlets,Chris moyles can make homophobic comments on his radio show and nothing is said about it,yet Emily who makes a racially unacceptable word (yet not in a hatefull contest) and gets punished harshly (in T.V standards)

But i must give kudos to alot of the mods (specially red moon) who seem quick of the mark to check it om here,but im surprised it even happens

I'm appalled at the intolerance of some of the members as well psy. It's quite tragic to be honest. :bored:

I am also shocked at the amount of homophobic posts on the board.

There is no need for it and I find it offensive and ignorant

homophobia and Racism are practically the same thing,which is why its so hard to get my head around why they are treated differently.Its intolerence against somone who is different.


I do believe talking to my older friends tho,thats years ago it was much worse,and society (yet VERY slowly) are coming around.

So they keep telling me psy.. but if society is in fact coming around, then why are so many people still homophobic?

PS. Gave you karma for addressing this issue. :thumbs:

And yet (sorry to go of topic) C4 will deal with racism, but use Chris Moyles on BBBM:rolleyes:

the homophobia seems to seen as bad now by joe average next door,the people that are homophobic are seen as bad people in society.Im a complete optimist tho and i try and see the good before the bad.

the media are just a bit slow,as is some older people who are breeding it into there children

I know that gay bashes are fewer than they were in the 90's,sure they still happen but to a lesser extent,hopefully thats a point in the right direction.
Thanks for the + aswell :thumbs: but it seems some coward is frightened to say anything took one away again lol

and Gap,yep that made me feel ill

Someone took one off you cuz you're back down at 4. Someone homophobic perhaps? :rolleyes:

yeah,just another coward,but hopefully thats the worst that they will do with there hate,take some karma off somone on the internet who they have never met.

Yup. I'm sure you wont lose any sleep over it anyway mate. :thumbs:

I think Emily should never have been kicked out, you can clearly see she did not mean what she said in a harmful way, and the stuff about Chris Moyles i totally agree.

haha not at all.

Im too excited about Dublin Pride the weekend :laugh:

Am I invited...? I never get to go out anywhere at the weekend! LoL

That's a good point Psylocke:thumbs:

There is a lot of homophobia about and if somebody mentioned it to Chris Moyles, that he had said a comment which was homophobic, he may be surprised that he has actually done something wrong?

I guess that Racism will always be looked upon as much more serious than homophobia ever will be.

We live in a country where unfairness exists and we all want things to work out just right, but sadly, it isn't so

On a forum like this, there is no guide available to any new or existing member, on how to describe a Gay person and how to debate about it safely within a thread, which concerns a housemate in BB who is Gay, "let's say?"

Recently we have seen these threads get locked, because some members have said a word or comments which some find to be homophobic or a description of a Gay person, which unfortunately offends one or two other members.

Before you know it, there is a debate about what to say & what not to say & suddenly, (Thread Locked)

So what will please a member or members who do get offended??

It's simple really

There should be a guide on the forum, of what to say & how to NOT offend.

Also, it should be a joint desicion between all mods & admins alike, as everyone has there own opinion & if one mod tells a member one thing and another mod has a different idea, it get's very confusing indeed.

I would say it is acceptable to say:-

"A Gay housemate" or "2 Gay housemates", that is legal & acceptable and cannot really offend.

If you see these Newspaper articles, they are very careful what they print and they know the law and have special advisors on how to say things without offending.

But we are not really talking about Newspapers, we are talking about the TIBB forum and how to have a debate within a thread, without this homophobic problem escalating further.

Don't blame forum members, many are not so aware of how to debate safely on the subject of a Gay housemate and that will always happen

Many times, the word which offends is within a thread title itself. That needs to be addressed, but if it is not offensive and members debating within that thread use the word or words within that thread title, then you can't really blame them, can you?

And if so many threads get locked, as a result of this, it is a crazy situation, which really shouldn't happen.

Gerry & Seany are in BB8 & both are Gay housemates, so it is inevitable it is going to come up in conversation, isn't it:thumbs:

I am sure TIBB can sort this small problem out:thumbs: Confidence is everything, you know:wink:






nodisharmony :angel:

I disagree. I think we can blame forum members because each and every one of us is responsible for what we post on here. I take full responsibility for all my actions on TiBB and the consequences of those actions.

It seems we live in a world where we look for someone else to blame for our own shortcomings. :bored:

But guidance is important, as many who debate in these threads about "Gerry" & "Seany" and the word (Gay) will crop up and a descussion may follow.

If a member or members find something offensive, isn't it better to educate someone and guide them in the right direction.

If there was a sort of guide on TIBB, any member who may get offended by a word or comment, that could help with matters? It's only an idea.

If you personally think it is better to hand out 24, 48 or 7 day bans, (like your handing out sweets), then I don't agree.

Many members may feel they are being victimized and won't really understand or what went wrong.

I am sure that TIBB welcomes new members and if a mistake like (A wrongly worded post) which wasn't homophobic, but it did contain badly described wordings on how to describe a Gay housemate.

I am not looking for a failure, just an answer for innocent members who wish to feel that there is help about:thumbs: Nice help:thumbs:




nodisharmony :angel:

I recently had an argument with a "gay woman" (her words) on another forum as I felt she was being a little prejudiced against straight males due to past experiences. It went from "crawl back under your rock" to the two of us wishing eachother a great summer and all the best.

I think sometimes it is possible, especially when only comunicating in writing, to really miss read what others say. That being said it is a pity that some people really seem to have a hatred for people and groups they have no idea about.

I like to live with the moto though, "If you hate anything its probably yourself.", so in all honestly I really just feel sorry for such people.

Well, mods must really be doing a good job as Ive not seen anything I felt offended by, but then very little offends me tbh.

Ack, and more relevant to your post, I completely agree that it should be treated just as badly as racism and seen as just as uneceptable. I hope it hasnt ruined your or anyone elses time on the forums.

The problem is, people on here don't care. If you point it out to them, they don't listen and I think TIBB needs to take a stand on it:rolleyes:

They are not all like that Gap

Many will listen if it explained to them, but I agree with you, that if someone wishes to be homophopic and make a point or go out of their way to be like that, then TIBB will make a stand.

I have seen it.





nodisharmony :angel:

Totally agree. Making such people feel resentment is probably the last thing you want to do. Hopefully most can come to understand other peoples side and develope some empathy.

Does homophobia mean that someone is scared of gays in the same way that arachnophobia means someone is scared of spiders?If thats the case i dont think ive seen an homophobic post.

Homophobia is intolerance towards gay people.

Nodish,I feel that somthing like words being misused is just ignorance or unintelligence.

It is 100% ok in my oppinion to call a gay man "gay" and a gay woman a "Lesbian" its words like "F*g" or "pansy"I have a problem with


But Its things like people going "Ewww disgusting" or "Yuck thats sick" when somone mentioned Gerry and Seany kissing,things like that are very offensive,more offensive than misuse of words in my oppinion.

Why is that very offensive I dont get it? I can kinda understand a gay person being slightly peeved off if someone reacted like that in the street after a quick snog, but how/why would that offend the average joe?

It's put me off commenting in the BB8 section alltogether, it seems to be full of young people (no disrespect intended) posting pointless threads with no real mature discussion going on and more to the point, using offensive terms like that.

Because it is offensive to another human being,Its like saying YOU make me sick.
Ziggy and Chanelle get a completely different reaction.

Gay men and women are average joes,its just they fancy different sexes

That's fair enough but maybe they just find the thought of Seany and Gerry kissing ''disscusting'' just as they would say Nicky and Liam kissing and not the fact that it's two men :)

It definatly wasnt in that context,tho,it was clear that what was disgusting was it was two men.

When I said the average joe I meant hetrosexuals. I'd like to think of myself as a human being and I dont find those phrases offensive in the slightest, slightly disrespectful yes but offensive? no.

Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.

Well Psylocke, I am a straight guy, but I am a member of Gerry's fanclub on here & personally have no problem with Gay people whatsoever.

I know quite a few & that never bothers me.

I agree that words like "F*g & "p*nsy" are unacceptable and I would never use them words, but sadly that will happen, even on here from time-to-time. That is when it should be dealt with, but perhaps a firm word in a U2U from a moderator and after that is done, if they do it again, then a warning should be issued.

I watched Gerry & Seany kissing and once again, I have no problem with that. But do you know something Psylocke, some people will actually phone up and complain about that.

I remember once, when there was a storyline in Eastenders, where two men were kissing & they received loads of complaints.

Well, what I say, is, "Tough for them".

Gay people exist & it is part of our society and if people cannot accept that, then it is "them" that have the problem.

Not Gay people.....






nodisharmony :angel:

Could you make a link to the post in matter?

I honestly have read some of these 'homophobic' posts and saw nothing offensive.
The most 'offensive' one was 'I knew those gays would cause trouble'.
I hardly think this is offensive compared to the homophobia that exists in this world.
I have gay friends and have no problem with homosexuality. It's peoples choices but IMO nothing has offended me.

Although directly it isnt really my business I dont dont like to see people being attacked for no reason at all.

I am going to sticking my neck out here a bit though when I say Im not sure what I think of seeing two men kissing.

There is no reason at all why two men shouldnt show their feelings in public just the same as anyone else but because I personally dont see other men as being remotely sexual my reaction is a bit like "Ewww, that isnt for me" just as it can be with other sexual things I dont personally 100% relate with.

Ofcourse there is no reason why anyone needs to watch something if they feel uncomfortable (when Laura saw Ziggy and Channelle kissing she walked away, though she did say "disgusting" which seems equally offensive really) and in the end of the day its an issue with the person looking not the two kissing.

I hope I havnt offended you in any way I just wanted to point out that maybe someone saying "yuck" is saying it because it isnt for them rather then because they hate gay people. I do agree though it does come over as being offensive.

Well in that case I think members should explain themselves better when posting to avoid any such complications on sensitive matters. I read that "Ewww" post as being homophobic.

And the "homophobic post of the week" award goes to..............

I did not see that and I am shocked. So if gay people kiss then it's not natural? If people are not accustomed to it, as many gay people have had to remain in private due to homophobia, then it is foreign and unatural? Actually, I am not shocked, but disgusted. Some members need to think about things more and open their minds.

Sorry again I dont feel this means xXEtchieXx hates homosexuals but rather perhaps used a word that can be taken as offensive. Sadly people do sometimes react negatively to things they arnt used to and are "foreign" and for people who do not know many or any gay people this may be a problem.

As for natural, what makes it good or bad? Technically one could argue any sex other then that to reproduce is unnatural. Personally I think its all as natural as living in houses and driving cars, we are natural creatures who have evolved and should except and be happy for other people who are happy as long as they are not hurting anyone.:angel:

I think it's a big problem now on TIBB. After the racists last january with the Jade-Shilpa conflict, even on tibb, now we have the anti-homosexuals because 2 gay housemates kissed each other. We didn't see that 1 year ago on tibb, I'm not against the new members but since 2 months it's the big mess really.
Some people think it's shocking to see 2 gays kissing, was it shocking to see Becki licking Michelle's boobs, for them ? or when Sam and Makosi kissed each other in the love loft ? Apparently not, we had no scandals about it because those people liked it. But now because it's 2 boys it's the end of the world !
I'm sad to see this on TIBB, I came here because we were open-minded and because we could share our opinions without arguments. You can't say anything because you are sure somebody will argue with you !

As a straight boy, I can't see it shocking, I know some gay people and we accepted that, there was no problem, they kiss each other in front of us and I don't see it in a shocking way.

For people who think, Chanelle and Ziggy is natural, why Seany and Gerry are different ? Maybe because they don't fancy each other ? It's really stupid, some people need to be more mature and open their mind.

Well said Remy. Put your karma on so I can give you some.

How is that a homophobic post? It's fact. I have no problem with gay people at all, i'm one of those people that says "each to their own". I mean it's not something I particularly wanna see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when im out about, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna rush to my phone and call Ofcom and complain or shout abuse at the next gay couple I see a kissing, which IS considered homophobic. Homosexuality has long been a part of our society and IMO they're are doing nothing wrong, it's the 21st century live and let live.

So how about you rub your two brain cells together for a little bit longer next time before posting childish, mindless crap like that!