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michael21 03-05-2020 10:13 PM

Is the premier league a joke
 
There keep having meetings yet nothing decided

Just that there want nurtal grounds how silly we the grounds have var

Cherie 04-05-2020 11:05 AM

They are now suggesting players could play in masks :laugh:

Cherie 04-05-2020 11:08 AM

10 neutral stadiums could be used, teams at the bottom are saying it's not fair in terms of sporting integrity and Home advantage, and that the threat of relegation is removed so what is the point then?

Denver 04-05-2020 11:09 AM

Wasnt it put that no team was allowed to play at their own stadium

Brother Leon 04-05-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10835832)
10 neutral stadiums could be used, teams at the bottom are saying it's not fair in terms of sporting integrity and Home advantage, and that the threat of relegation is removed so what is the point then?

Got to make sure Liverpool win their league. :shrug:

Denver 04-05-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10835846)
Got to make sure Liverpool win their league. :shrug:

Are the utd fans not expecting European football ahead of Sheffield Utd despite the Blades have a game in hand?

The Slim Reaper 04-05-2020 12:24 PM

Let's say we just null and void this season (which is a bizarre thing to even suggest), then what happens if the next 3 years all seasons get to 29 games before another flare up?

That's 120 pl games in 4 years with not one champion. Far better to take as long as needed to finish every season in turn, so we might end up with only 2 completed seasons but they take 3 years to complete.

Denver 04-05-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10835877)
Let's say we just null and void this season (which is a bizarre thing to even suggest), then what happens if the next 3 years all seasons get to 29 games before another flare up?

That's 120 pl games in 4 years with not one champion. Far better to take as long as needed to finish every season in turn, so we might end up with only 2 completed seasons but they take 3 years to complete.

All the people campaigning for null and void want a new league to start in August now you tell me where the sense in that is?

LukeB 04-05-2020 12:29 PM

They should just announce Liverpool as the winners because they are miles ahead in points

Nicky91 04-05-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10835879)
They should just announce Liverpool as the winners because they are miles ahead in points

+1

yes i mean it's Obvious Liverpool are champions this season anyway with that huge gap with second place


i think the teams who can more benefit from playing all remaining matches are those in relegation danger zone

and the borderline Europa league ticket position too i guess

The Slim Reaper 04-05-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10835879)
They should just announce Liverpool as the winners because they are miles ahead in points

I disagree because we need to take multiple seasons into account. What if city are 5 points ahead at the same stage next season, or united 8 points ahead? I know Liverpool are so far ahead it's not relevant this year, but it could be next year, so you can't just arbitrarily decide to hand out championships based on the lead the team in 1st place has. Competitions need integrity, and you only get that by completing them.

Crimson Dynamo 04-05-2020 01:13 PM

They do are scrabbling about trying to appease their paymasters and it's pretty desperate.
I can't see crowds returning till 2021, after the vaccine.
Either null and void or award as stands, thwir is no other way

bots 04-05-2020 01:13 PM

a league competition continuing now after such a long break has no integrity. The greater integrity comes from positions as they were when the shutdown happened. That affects all teams equally. That to me is the only legitimate conclusion. Those in relegation zones cant complain because that reflected their performance for 3/4 of the season.

Brother Leon 04-05-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10835847)
Are the utd fans not expecting European football ahead of Sheffield Utd despite the Blades have a game in hand?

There’s no proper european football anytime soon. Let’s be real.


And you realise if season was complete we most likely would have finished top 4 in CL, not Europa? Who really cares about this right now though. I’m fine with taking 5th or 6th instead if need be.

Denver 04-05-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10835926)
There’s no proper european football anytime soon. Let’s be real.


And you realise if season was complete we most likely would have finished top 4 in CL, not Europa? Who really cares about this right now though. We’ll take 5th or 6th instead if need be.

It's also kinda selfish to think Corona is the only thing worth protecting against, what about the High level of suicides by people struggle to move away from what is their normal life and stay locked inside or domestic abuse victims that could be saved because their partner had an interest in something else for a period of time

The Slim Reaper 04-05-2020 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10835922)
a league competition continuing now after such a long break has no integrity. The greater integrity comes from positions as they were when the shutdown happened. That affects all teams equally. That to me is the only legitimate conclusion. Those in relegation zones cant complain because that reflected their performance for 3/4 of the season.

A league competition finishing now (even based on current standings), yet starting up again in september doesn't have more credibility because they've started something new, it has less because it didn't finish the last one.

A really bizarre opinion (not you) that just cancelling and starting again without knowing the next one can be completed is a better way forward.

Brother Leon 04-05-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10835931)
A league competition finishing now (even based on current standings), yet starting up again in september doesn't have more credibility because they've started something new, it has less because it didn't finish the last one.

A really bizarre opinion (not you) that just cancelling and starting again without knowing the next one can be completed is a better way forward.


I mean. We’ve had a 2 month break during the season. We are going to have home advantage for huge games down the stretch absolutely wiped away for certain teams. Players contracts will have legally expired during a season of play. Essentially any team not called Liverpool who can win their title or a team fighting for a european place will not give a crap about the final games(especially without relegation).

It’s far from a “normal” end to the season regardless. It’s abit of a joke of an end if anything.

The Slim Reaper 04-05-2020 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10835941)
I mean. We’ve had a 2 month break during the season. We are going to have home advantage for huge games down the stretch absolutely wiped away for certain teams. Players contracts will have legally expired during a season of play. Essentially any team not called Liverpool who can win their title or a team fighting for a european place will not give a crap about the final games(especially without relegation).

It’s far from a “normal” end to the season regardless. It’s abit of a joke of an end if anything.

So we null and void or hand liverpool the trophy. What about the relegations and promotions? And what happens if we start in September and by October, the virus is rampaging worse than ever as we're properly out of lockdown and back in crowds?

Home advantage isn't written in contracts, but pretty much the rest of football is.

Nicky91 04-05-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10835944)
So we null and void or hand liverpool the trophy. What about the relegations and promotions? And what happens if we start in September and by October, the virus is rampaging worse than ever as we're properly out of lockdown and back in crowds?

Home advantage isn't written in contracts, but pretty much the rest of football is.

then delay the new season start till january, february 2021, and play matches on tuesday, wednesday and weekends, just a lot more intense work schedule, let them work for their millions for once

The Slim Reaper 04-05-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10835945)
then delay the new season start till january, february 2021, and play matches on tuesday, wednesday and weekends, just a lot more intense work schedule, let them work for their millions for once

It's not about footballers working for their money, Nicky. So we delay till January, then it Willem II's captain infects 5 of his teammates and 2 coaches, then what? He's also been in contact with 3 other football teams since he became symptomatic.

My point is that no one knows how long this disruption could potentially go on for, so just starting up again when we have no idea whether it's possible to complete half of a season, let alone a full one seems a bit misplaced.

Nicky91 04-05-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10835948)
It's not about footballers working for their money, Nicky. So we delay till January, then it Willem II's captain infects 5 of his teammates and 2 coaches, then what? He's also been in contact with 3 other football teams since he became symptomatic.

My point is that no one knows how long this disruption could potentially go on for, so just starting up again when we have no idea whether it's possible to complete half of a season, let alone a full one seems a bit misplaced.

RKC, Ajax have resumed training again (or at least staying in good condition, more training with social distancing)

have any teams in england resumed that sort of social distancing training too, just to stay in good form?

i mean ok team sports are very risky, however these players all need to remain in form somehow


sports like Tennis, Golf where social distancing measures can be applied to, could work if it's ''safe enough'' at some point, health comes first but i also agree with some experts of ATP/WTA (who had a video chat few weeks back Mats Wilander, Simona Halep, Boris Becker, Tommy Haas) that sportspeople need to remain in form somehow, and no matches at all is not good for anyone, everyone is aware health comes first but we also gotta look what's possible in a while (in calm moments of a summer potentially what they had been saying) i mean


team sports are a no go for me personally these times (so that for me also includes football)

i think after vaccine it could be possible to resume, and Trump said they could have vaccine end of the year :think: he said in interview with FOX News at lincoln memorial i saw on news

The Slim Reaper 04-05-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10835950)
RKC, Ajax have resumed training again (or at least staying in good condition, more training with social distancing)

have any teams in england resumed that sort of social distancing training too, just to stay in good form?

i mean ok team sports are very risky, however these players all need to remain in form somehow


sports like Tennis, Golf where social distancing measures can be applied to, could work if it's ''safe enough'' at some point, health comes first but i also agree with some experts of ATP/WTA (who had a video chat few weeks back Mats Wilander, Simona Halep, Boris Becker, Tommy Haas) that sportspeople need to remain in form somehow, and no matches at all is not good for anyone, everyone is aware health comes first but we also gotta look what's possible in a while (in calm moments of a summer potentially what they had been saying) i mean


team sports are a no go for me personally these times (so that for me also includes football)

i think after vaccine it could be possible to resume, and Trump said they could have vaccine end of the year :think: he said in interview with FOX News at lincoln memorial i saw on news

Trump also told Dr Birx to look into disinfecting peoples lungs, so I'd take anything he says with a giant pinch of salt

bots 04-05-2020 06:16 PM

The tv stations will love it if all matches are played behind closed doors

rusticgal 04-05-2020 07:02 PM

I’m not a Liverpool supporter but I feel gutted for them if they cannot goon to win the Premiership after all their hard work. My husbands Sunday team in which both my boys play we’re leading the board but it’s all been abandoned...although they will be playing their finals later on in the year.

Brother Leon 05-05-2020 03:40 PM

Now there are talks that games will be 80mins and with 5 substitutes.


And yet some will still tell us that the season must end for the integrity of the league :laugh:

bots 05-05-2020 03:51 PM

It's going to be impossible to please everyone so they should make a decision based on health and safety and then protection of income. People forget that the football league is basically ****ed without regular gate receipts so restarting behind closed doors is a non starter for them. I still maintain that a significant number of clubs will go out of business and then the competitions have lost integrity anyway.

Cherie 05-05-2020 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10836412)
Now there are talks that games will be 80mins and with 5 substitutes.


And yet some will still tell us that the season must end for the integrity of the league :laugh:

It gets more ridiculous at each suggestion tbh

The Slim Reaper 05-05-2020 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10836412)
Now there are talks that games will be 80mins and with 5 substitutes.


And yet some will still tell us that the season must end for the integrity of the league :laugh:

And some will tell us scrapping the league then starting again, without any idea whether you can play half a season nevermind a whole one, makes more sense than playing 9 games of a season already 3/4's completed :laugh:

michael21 05-05-2020 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10835877)
Let's say we just null and void this season (which is a bizarre thing to even suggest), then what happens if the next 3 years all seasons get to 29 games before another flare up?

That's 120 pl games in 4 years with not one champion. Far better to take as long as needed to finish every season in turn, so we might end up with only 2 completed seasons but they take 3 years to complete.

What about euro 2021 :shrug:

The Slim Reaper 05-05-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 10836480)
What about euro 2021 :shrug:

What about it? Cancel all international football until it's properly contained rather than being managed. if the Euro's go ahead, then so will the American and african versions, where social distancing is a lot harder for the players to be isolated because you're automatically mixing them with different players.

Zizu 05-05-2020 06:38 PM

Is the premier league a joke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10836481)
What about it? Cancel all international football until it's properly contained rather than being managed. if the Euro's go ahead, then so will the American and african versions, where social distancing is a lot harder for the players to be isolated because you're automatically mixing them with different players.



That’s certainly a long , sprawling, third sentence . New sentences should start with a capital letter and you’ve used questionable punctuation throughout.

Mmmmm .. it’s not so pleasant having your posts scrutinised , is it ?

;)


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The Slim Reaper 05-05-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10836532)
That’s certainly a long , sprawling, third sentence . New sentences should start with a capital letter and you’ve used questionable punctuation throughout.

Mmmmm .. it’s not so pleasant having your posts scrutinised , is it ?

;)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

It's funnier that you think I give a crap. Most people on here would accept that my grammar is decent when it needs to be. However, if you're going to pick on someone else's grammar, you need to make damn sure yours is perfect because that post is a mess; you don't even know where to place commas ffs.

Zizu 05-05-2020 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10836554)
It's funnier that you think I give a crap. Most people on here would accept that my grammar is decent when it needs to be. However, if you're going to pick on someone else's grammar, you need to make damn sure yours is perfect because that post is a mess; you don't even know where to place commas ffs.



Yeah but I’m dyslexic and rely on spellcheck and predictive text whereas you’re just a smart~a$$ ;)


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The Slim Reaper 05-05-2020 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10836581)
Yeah but I’m dyslexic and rely on spellcheck and predictive text whereas you’re just a smart~a$$ ;)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Then perhaps don't try and jump on other peoples grammar if that's something you have issues with? If you need any help with any spelling or grammar, then feel free to PM me about it (that's genuine, not me being a smart ass)

James 07-05-2020 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10836412)
Now there are talks that games will be 80mins and with 5 substitutes.


And yet some will still tell us that the season must end for the integrity of the league :laugh:

I wonder if anyone has suggested added-on time multi-ball yet, haha.

michael21 08-05-2020 09:22 PM

Var will sort the mess out :cheer2:

Brother Leon 12-05-2020 06:38 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52635005

“Tackling will be banned, pitches disinfected and players restricted to groups of five when the Premier League starts a first phase of team training.”

Hey guys. It’s not safe for you to tackle each other(except for when you actually have to play official games. **** the risks then.

Denver 12-05-2020 06:47 PM

What I find funny is Broghton were dead against neutral grounds then when they was told it was happening they had a player test positive.

Their final games including 6 against the top 8 which is suspicious

Brother Leon 12-05-2020 08:32 PM



Just no comment...

James 13-05-2020 12:17 PM

They will be able to see how the Bundesliga goes, which is coming back this weekend, with safety precautions, and base the decision to restart based on that.

The sooner that closed-doors games come back, and is proven not too be a big risk, the earlier that clubs can sell tickets again - which lower-league clubs depend on more (than PL clubs) for their existence.


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