Texas is trying to ban and obscure the teaching of Slavery in Schools
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/20/u...6-project.html

Basically a bunch of Right Wing led states are trying to ban the darker parts of US history being taught in school and Texas is one of the biggest ones to attempt it which is bad news considering they drive much of the textbook industry.

A bunch of white snowflakes simply can't handle that the history of their country is one mired in blood and racism and want to rewrite history to shove the uncomfortable parts under the table. Why is the right wing so scared of facts? It's honestly pathetic.

If you censor or ignore the uncomfortable parts of history, you're doomed to repeat it.

Typical of that state.

Love the Lone Star State

Not just that state, there's others that have passed or are in the process of passing such laws.

All of which are typically right wing, no surprise there.

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

If that's how you think, we have to erase all of our own history.

We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not erase them and pretend they didn't happen.

We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.

Tough ask, with the net, but I can dream.

Why not? We all studied history....our grandparents fought and in some cases died so we have a history to discuss. Our past dictates our present and future.

To know the mistakes makes us sure we don't (hopefully) repeat them

The world is not in a position for it to repeat itself in regards to the white on black slavery story.

It will never happen again. To mention it, and to teach it. Well, I think it will only bring hate, or hate or hate.

Best just scrapping history altogether then?

Yep

But then why is there still racism? To eradicate it from history will not teach our children to not hate. If there was no prejudice I could possibly see where you're coming from but as there still is, we need to teach kids where it comes from and why it's wrong.

There's still racism because we still teach history in schools.:shrug:

We've all seen those pictures of kids of all colours holding hands on billboards.

That's what we need to be teaching, not our history. Our history is all about division and war, and in the main only taken at secondary levels for the school trips. School trips to castles, or Auschwitz..or any other negative devisive memory from our shameful past.

Ban history from school, that's what I think..get a compass and take up geography.

Auschwitz? You want to eradicate what happened there? Pretend that millions of Jews, homosexuals, disabled people weren't murdered by the Germans? Do we pretend apartheid didn't happen in South Africa? What will that help?

You've been championing Israel lately, you think they want the suffering of the Jews erased in WW2? You want all those millions to have died and.now we don't tell the furore generations about their suffering? Its not just black and white history, if you stop teaching kids about the horrors that their ancestors faced to give them the present/future they have

Only some history should be erased.....

Kids should, and do, judge people for themselves, without any pre conceived ideas put in their heads.


So yes, we dont need our kids taught about all that horrid nasty stuff.



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Daft argument annie considering you are probably up for taking down statues.

Yet those people would have a fit if they were told to stop talking about 9/11

I've never once commented on that, but you put words in my mouth if you want.:shrug:

My son will learn all about this. countries, and the world's history, good and bad, from me if school won't teach it because my grandad was a PoW and so earned me that right....

Clearly some people didn't even go to school let alone take history classes. There is zero benefits to be had in not teaching future generations mistakes of the past, unless you are for repeating said mistakes of course.

What a dumb comment.

"Don't need to teach future generations". Yeah, good plan. :rolleyes:

Nope. No. No. :facepalm: I think maybe you could do with some history classes yourself.

But the same crowd that says that are the same people who defend statues of racists as having historical importance. Which is it?

The idea that racism exists only because we teach people about the history of racism is the most bat**** ignorant thing I've seen on here in a long while and that's saying something. It's literally taking bigotry and victim blaming the victims of it by saying 'You can't talk about your experiences or your ancestor's struggles because my feelings might get hurt because I don't like to be reminded that my race enslaved yours.'

People who would whitewash history because they don't like the reality of it need to toughen the **** up and accept the facts.

…I was reading just a few days ago a bit about the history of African Americans in Detroit…specifically in the later 60s…which really isn’t that long ago…and these are many prejudice mindsets and attitudes that stem from slavery and have still displayed through time and American history…the slow integration and acceptance of what were slave families into a free society and that integration being very much resisted by society sections…


…anyways, history is all we have and how we learn to move forward…for those who have faiths, the faiths are based on history, surely…on events of the past, so all of that would be erased as well if history wasn’t taught…it really would be like a ‘spotless mind’ scenario and creating a dystopian world…it would create the very opposite of tolerance…

…I read that it’s not taught very extensively in American schools but can’t really find that much information…our history is quite skimmed over as well because of curriculum restrictions so it’s something that I would think would have to be studied as a topic in later education…?….

In order to understand a lot of the world's issues, we need to look at the history of places. Why conflicts happened, how that affected the populace and when sometimes the feelings still run deep. To erase history makes it difficult to look at current affairs of our own and other countries.

…it’s all any of us are and what we have of those we love…our memories/their history…the impact of a life lived and their legacy…we are who we are because of what came before and the present is impacting our children and so it goes on…

providing a balanced view of history becomes ever harder, that is where the problem lies in teaching it. I wonder how these times will be taught in the future. There are so many alternative facts and fake news, where do the historians start?

That's backwards and laughable when they have statues all over the place of slave owners that they practically worship.

They can try and censor history all they want but it's all there in black and white ,and children are inquisitive and they'll do their research.

Education is important especially when it comes to serious issues and topics like this, being ignorant doesn't help.

Ooh I love when I manage to catch up with a thread where people are fighting before comments are deleted. Usually I'm too late

As for the topic history is so fascinating it's unfortunate that the history we focused on it UK schools was Henry 8th and his wives and that was just about it

Grow the **** up, this tantrum you're in the midst of is honestly pathetic.

You made a dumbass statement that compared modern living to slavery, a practice that stripped people of their free will and dignity, that left them victim to endless suffering, abuse and rape. A practice that tore people from their homes and forced them to live lives of servitude. You're comparing holding down a job to that in order to dismiss the attempted whitewashing of history.

Also you're trying to make out that this is a thread about other members, tell me, are there any Texan lawmakers on this forum? Or is that yet another lie on top of the random lies about me as well?

Get some dignity.

im fairly;y certain you covered more than that and indeed would have looked at slavery as part of secondary History. I know I did.

what is a pity is that kids dont pay more attention in History or see it as a valid subject.

same for geography

Sure thing, mate.

I didn't cover slavery for secondary history. We did the industrial revolution in the Uk for GCSE. I think it depends on your school and the year as to what syllabus you cover

surely you watched ROOTS?

everyone of a certain age on this forum must have?

:laugh:

What I'm saying is the future world may not have any issues if we stop teaching the worlds darker side in history

To teach it, breeds hatred.

It doesn't.

You think teaching about the history of the slave trade creates racists? :facepalm:

Ignoring the dark parts of the world's history won't do anything. History is filled with blood and it shouldn't be ignored. The only people who would suggest we forget about history are people who simply don't want to acknowledge the dark parts of their own heritage.

No, it breeds contempt for honest white people