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Gay man couple kicking up stink as Christian painter says NO
Gay couple reveal they've made a complaint against Christian painter who
'refused to decorate their home because of their sexuality' https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07...0797665145.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07...0800844406.jpg 2 of them in the house and they cant even paint one room? Joshua and George, who declined to give their surnames, explained how the tradeswoman sent them a text saying she couldn't carry out the job due to 'recommended guidelines' at her church. Joshua, 23, said he was 'gobsmacked' and 'seething' so took to Twitter to tell of his experience (as you do), in messages that have been viewed and shared thousands of times. The couple say they have since made a complaint to the trading website where they found her services, which they hope will raise awareness about religion. But while many urged them to publicly reveal the identity of the decorator in question, they admitted concerns over 'naming and shaming' on social media. Joshua told LGBTQ magazine Attitude (again, as you do): 'I don't necessarily feel comfortable holding the doors, and opening the floodgates. I have this person's details. If I wanted to, yes, I could release them. Joshua and his 26-year-old partner wanted their bedroom painted at the two- bed terrace home in Bristol which they bought in June last year. After finding the decorator online, Joshua asked her round for a quote but claims to have noticed her attitude change when he mentioned George. 'We were in the master bedroom when she asked if my partner was in and I replied 'no he's not' that I first thought something was wrong,' he told ITV News. (once again as you do) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shame-her.html |
Someone wants there 10 mins of fame
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My stance on this is pretty firm these days; no one who is offering a service should be able to refuse that service based on who is requesting the service. Too many issues are too polarised, it becomes ridiculous.
Obviously no one should have to work somewhere they feel genuinely unsafe, but that's it IMO. Christian cake bakers and all. If you can't suck up personal beliefs and be professional, don't trade. |
It's her Church
that sets her Rules. Pointless of them fellas to take it to the press. |
the thing is that the person who refused wanted to make a point. There are 100 different reasons for refusing work that don't imply any principle at all.
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Refusing a service based on someone’s sexuality is discrimination and there are laws against that, helping to spread a message that they don’t believe in due to their faith is one thing, outright denying service because of someone’s sexuality is completely different
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why not just say sorry you cant do it and recommend a mate who can?
dropping in you are a Christian just opens yourself up to this |
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We pander to all religion in this country. It comes down to that "we have the right to refuse service to anyone" disclaimer most business have at the end of the day. |
If the painter turned up in Muslim garb and sent that message do you think the gay couple would have kicked up a stink?
no, neither do I :rolleyes: |
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I’d had said thank you for letting me know what a nutcase you are and found a sane person to do the job instead.
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Not if she is Ruled by Her Church Get it in Court The Church Lady would win Slick Liam. |
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Yes Glenn never mix with a Strict Church Lady |
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That said ... I don't think shops, cafes, bars etc. should be able to refuse service to people with criminal records unless there's a very specific reason. Again my thinking doesn't come down to sympathy, more that I don't think the world will continue to work for very long if everyone just starts leaning into their tribe. To use an allegory - if you're in a small village and there's a "christian" café that "wont serve gay people", and so a gay couple open a rival café that "refuses to serve TERFs" ... you don't end up with two competing cafes in that village... you end up with zero cafes. |
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it's pretty much exactly the same as the bakery case
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It’s nothing like the bakery case
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The biggest shock for me was finding out that Cherie had picked up the brushes again
Her and that paint-spattered Hitachi FM/AM radio are inseparable |
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No her Strict Church does not agree with Gays Get it in Court Slick Liam, she can Win |
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It might seem to be a small distinction but it's really not. That said, I still stand by what I said before - if you can't put personal beliefs aside in order to bake a cake for whoever orders a cake, then step out of the game and make space in the market for a baker who will cater to everyone. Like I can understand refusing to put a groom & groom topper on it - just say, we don't and have no plans to stock those - but they should still make the cake and give it to them to decorate as they please. I know that's not how it went legally. But again - that was very specifically related to the marriage aspect, not just the personal lives of the customers. |
In a job like this you can pick and choose who you work for tbh, it's not an essential service
I'm sure loads of tradespeople refuse to work for people they don't like, they just tell them they're too busy for the job or don't have the resources blah blah blah. That's what she should have said really rather than make it a bigotry issue |
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Some Gays act a certain way it must have alerted her Strict Religious Values Please Note: Being Gay is Fine |
I personally agree with Glenn, I’d have just moved on and went to someone else as I really don’t have the patience or energy to deal with people like that, but I do enjoy seeing people who do have the energy
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Thats the spirit Slick Liam. |
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It's still daft. It's not like they were asking her to paint a giant mural of Jesus with his cock out. |
But I can just see the faux outrage if a gay person refused to do work for a religious person or organisation, there would endless daily mail front pages and seething, dribbling videos from the likes of Farage, Hopkins and Shapiro
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The painter wanted to make a stand for sure, which i don't agree with. There was really no need to give the guys a reason based on his religious beliefs.
Wait, is Farage homophobic? I've never seen anything like that coming from him. Hopkins yes, not too sure about Shaprio as i can't listen to him for more than a minute or two as his fast speech grinds me. |
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Of Course Professor SB but the Strict Church Lady Worker picked up the Vibe from them. |
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i know LT doesn't sell to celtic supporters on ebay
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It wouldn't even occur to me to go crying to news outlets about it. Just take the rejection and go to someone less stupid. |
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