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Kazanne 15-11-2023 02:29 PM

Henry being a Tory
 
I have seen and heard a few people saying they like Henry but wont be voting for him as he s a Tory which imo is a sweeping statement saying all Tories are bad people,they are not they just have different views on things.It shouldn't matter what his political persuasion is he is ,or seems to be a lovely caring person,imo its very unfair if Henry loses out because of that, after all we dont say Im not voting for ??? because they are Labour voters etc. Does it matter to people on here ?

smudgie 15-11-2023 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11388442)
I have seen and heard a few people saying they like Henry but wont be voting for him as he s a Tory which imo is a sweeping statement saying all Tories are bad people,they are not they just have different views on things.It shouldn't matter what his political persuasion is he is ,or seems to be a lovely caring person,imo its very unfair if Henry loses out because of that, after all we dont say Im not voting for ??? because they are Labour voters etc.

He isn’t a Tory, he is a fan of the Tories.
He isn’t in the party.
Voting anybody for their political leanings is ridiculously silly.

Vanessa 15-11-2023 02:32 PM

I can't believe I kissed a Tory! Line of the series :joker:

Abra 15-11-2023 02:37 PM

I like Henry but that's the one thing that lets him down for me. Fair enough, have your political beliefs but his ass kissing for Boris Johnson because he thinks he's "hilarious" or "brilliant" or whatever isn't a good look when he's a hugely privileged man born with a silver spoon who isn't the one who's going to be massively affected by Johnson's incompetence and terrible leadership.

Cherie 15-11-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11388447)
He isn’t a Tory, he is a fan of the Tories.
He isn’t in the party.
Voting anybody for their political leanings is ridiculously silly.

agreed

Benjamin 15-11-2023 02:41 PM

The fact people make that an issue not to like him or vote him based on that says more about them. :idc:

Bronzo 15-11-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11388442)
I have seen and heard a few people saying they like Henry but wont be voting for him as he s a Tory which imo is a sweeping statement saying all Tories are bad people,they are not they just have different views on things.It shouldn't matter what his political persuasion is he is ,or seems to be a lovely caring person,imo its very unfair if Henry loses out because of that, after all we dont say Im not voting for ??? because they are Labour voters etc. Does it matter to people on here ?

I’ve seen this as well, it’s ridiculous isn’t it. Since social media has been a thing people are getting so arrogant with their views that they can’t accept other peoples views, they are simply correct 100% of the time in their own heads.

The fact people can’t just accept people have different views and respectfully disagree is crazy to me,

Ammi 15-11-2023 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11388442)
I have seen and heard a few people saying they like Henry but wont be voting for him as he s a Tory which imo is a sweeping statement saying all Tories are bad people,they are not they just have different views on things.It shouldn't matter what his political persuasion is he is ,or seems to be a lovely caring person,imo its very unfair if Henry loses out because of that, after all we dont say Im not voting for ??? because they are Labour voters etc. Does it matter to people on here ?

…I’ve kept up with a few forums this season, Kaz…and I would say that if that’s how he’s being judged then it would just be a very few people because it’s not something that’s stood out as any ‘negative’ about him in anything I’ve looked at….I’m not sure about any social media sites because those aren’t something I follow…but my experience is that I’ve seen far more praise and even ‘concern’ for him in terms of his romantic feelings for Jordan…?…I think the ‘Tory boy’ is just something said more recently because that’s the ‘label’ that Jordan placed in fun and affection when they kissed…?

Ammi 15-11-2023 03:01 PM

…I think that I’ve seen more that ‘Henry doesn’t need the cash prize’…/rich boy, type stuff…

Niamh. 15-11-2023 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11388463)
The fact people make that an issue not to like him or vote him based on that says more about them. :idc:

I remember when you could have totally different political views and still be great friends/like a person/not let it affect how you treat them. I miss those days.

jones89 15-11-2023 03:03 PM

I like him as is.. but that’s just a bonus haha

Bronzo 15-11-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11388488)
I remember when you could have totally different political views and still be great friends/like a person/not let it affect how you treat them. I miss those days.

It’s almost as if people label people now straight away based on political views before getting to know somebody. It’s crazy people are willing to write off up to half of the population

Beso 15-11-2023 03:12 PM

Henry showing the true face of the right, whilst Trish does the same for the left.

Niamh. 15-11-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronzo (Post 11388494)
It’s almost as if people label people now straight away based on political views before getting to know somebody. It’s crazy people are willing to write off up to half of the population

It is and it's a very sheep like/tribal mentality

Kazanne 15-11-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11388486)
…I think that I’ve seen more that ‘Henry doesn’t need the cash prize’…/rich boy, type stuff…

Yes Ive seen that aswell:wavey:

joeysteele 15-11-2023 03:16 PM

Well I'm solid Labour although I wish Starmer the leader was more.

I've liked Henry since the first few days.
Wasn't sure I would, not because he is more a Tory.
I've loads of Conservative friends .
I wouldn't hold someone's politics against them in a TV show.
That's ridiculous

I like Henry because he's a good housemate and but for Jordan he would be the one I'd like to win.

I'd battle likely with Henry bigtime re Boris Johnson, however afterwards would thoroughly enjoy socializing over a drink too.

Kazanne and I have had battles re politics on here but there's mountains of other issues I agree with her on.
Anyone not liking Henry just because he's a Tory is both ridiculous and incredibly childish.
Pathetic in fact.

Benjamin 15-11-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11388488)
I remember when you could have totally different political views and still be great friends/like a person/not let it affect how you treat them. I miss those days.

Ahh the 1600’s. I miss those days too.

Niamh. 15-11-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11388511)
Ahh the 1600’s. I miss those days too.

:laugh: :love:

Locke. 15-11-2023 03:26 PM

He makes it such a huge part of who he is and his own personality that it absolutely does come into effect when viewing him as a housemate

Black Dagger 15-11-2023 03:30 PM

He brings it up often enough himself and he doesn’t need a 100k cash prize. Plus he hasn’t even been close to being the most deserving or entertaining housemate from a viewing stand point either so yes I will hold it against him x

Mich3LL3 15-11-2023 03:32 PM

He is much more likeable than Joel from 16th series who came second.

Stu 15-11-2023 03:39 PM

There's no problem getting along with people who aren't on your side of the political spectrum, but it becomes an issue when people admit that they predicate their political affinity on this cult-of-personality "Look at him, he's like your whacky mate on a night out really!" type stuff.

It's shitbrained, this kind of thinking. It cheapens the harm and damage done by government and Henry's had open conversation about it when confronted with some of that harm and damage.

That makes it a part of his presentation and fair game for the vote. You could argue it's actually a deeply important reason why someone would choose not to vote for him.

And I say that as someone who really likes the guy other than that.

Liam- 15-11-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 11388528)
He brings it up often enough himself and he doesn’t need a 100k cash prize. Plus he hasn’t even been close to being the most deserving or entertaining housemate from a viewing stand point either so yes I will hold it against him x

.

If I don’t think a Boris loving fanboy deserves to win a social experiment after looking a doctor and an nhs worker in the eye after hearing they’d suffered personal losses through covid and telling them that Boris did a cracking job, then I’m going to say and believe that, no matter how petty some people may think it is

TheFMHatter1986 15-11-2023 04:02 PM

I mean he has impersonated Boris, he wanted to have drink/dinner or something with Boris he defended Boris and the Tories over the COVID pandemic

smudgie 15-11-2023 04:17 PM

I don’t get the concept that if your family or indeed yourself have money then you shouldn’t be able to win a prize.
Does that mean that if you have savings you shouldn’t do the lottery?

rusticgal 15-11-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11388447)
He isn’t a Tory, he is a fan of the Tories.
He isn’t in the party.
Voting anybody for their political leanings is ridiculously silly.


Totally agree….sadly people can be very fickle.

Henry has just been a sincere and decent housemate and he should be judged on that alone, not his political lean to.

Vanessa 15-11-2023 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11388570)
Totally agree….sadly people can be very fickle.

Henry has just been a sincere and decent housemate and he should be judged on that alone, not his political lean to.

He's so lovely. Wears his heart on his sleeve :love:

Stu 15-11-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11388568)
I don’t get the concept that if your family or indeed yourself have money then you shouldn’t be able to win a prize.
Does that mean that if you have savings you shouldn’t do the lottery?

I don't think that's anybodies concept. They should be eligible to win it. They may just be a less desirable option to win it.

jones89 15-11-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11388499)
Henry showing the true face of the right, whilst Trish does the same for the left.

That’s quite true.. most people i know on the right are really nice and decent, down to earth human beings.. the left seem to have more prejudices that they try to cover up with their social justice warrior routines, like oor Trishy :joker:

jones89 15-11-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 11388524)
He makes it such a huge part of who he is and his own personality that it absolutely does come into effect when viewing him as a housemate

Does he really though ? I heard him mention it on launch night, that’s about it..

Withano 15-11-2023 06:01 PM

I disagree. ‘All Tories are bad people’ is practically a fact nowadays

Lostie! 15-11-2023 06:02 PM

In the current climate, it's perfectly fair for people to judge him based on wanting to have a drink with Boris and his cost of living crisis comment. He's a nice guy but massively out of touch

Withano 15-11-2023 06:04 PM

It works both ways though to be fair. Farage is easily gonna be in the final 3 of IAC simply because of his political leanings

If people don’t wanna be judged positively or negatively on their political leanings, they shouldn’t bring it up

Lostie! 15-11-2023 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jones89 (Post 11388615)
Does he really though ? I heard him mention it on launch night, that’s about it..

He's definitely said it in the house too

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 11388689)
It works both ways though to be fair. Farage is easily gonna be in the final 3 of IAC simply because of his political leanings

If people don’t wanna be judged positively or negatively on their political leanings, they shouldn’t bring it up

All great points :clap1:

Maru 15-11-2023 07:46 PM

Henry does not have a personality defined entirely by woo, so I go based on how he presents himself in the house.

Alf 15-11-2023 07:56 PM

Should have saved Zak.

Northern Monkey 15-11-2023 08:13 PM

I don’t know why he drew attention to it tbh. Is he trying to make Toryism more acceptable. It’s him that’s created this persona for himself, he’s advertised it as part of his character. It’s his own fault if he divides opinions. This is why many famous popstars never used to talk political allegiances, so as not to alienate a section of their fans.

Mystic Mock 15-11-2023 08:18 PM

It depends on how far his views go.

Like for example is he like Harry from BB12 who would brag about loving Fox Hunting? If Henry isn't like that then him being a Tory wouldn't really bother me.

Mystic Mock 15-11-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronzo (Post 11388469)
I’ve seen this as well, it’s ridiculous isn’t it. Since social media has been a thing people are getting so arrogant with their views that they can’t accept other peoples views, they are simply correct 100% of the time in their own heads.

The fact people can’t just accept people have different views and respectfully disagree is crazy to me,

If people on Social Media struggle to accept differing views on entertainment related stuff, then unfortunately it's going to be even worse with Politics due to the serious nature of the topic.

jones89 15-11-2023 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11388935)
It depends on how far his views go.

Like for example is he like Harry from BB12 who would brag about loving Fox Hunting? If Henry isn't like that then him being a Tory wouldn't really bother me.

I’m not sure foxhunting is exclusively a tory thing


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