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UserSince2005 28-12-2023 08:28 AM

Thoughts on Muslim people praying in public?
 
Is it ever inappropriate?
I have definitely noticed it a lot more recently. Yesterday at the airport just in the seating area. I thought to myself surely there is a praying room in every airport?
And then a few days prior I was on a flight and a guy set up his mat at the back of the plane next to the exit door and prayed for a good 3-5 minutes.

Oliver_W 28-12-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11405024)
And then a few days prior I was on a flight and a guy set up his mat at the back of the plane next to the exit door and prayed for a good 3-5 minutes.

NGL, I'd probably think my death was imminent :laugh:

But yeah, if they want to moon everyone and kiss the floor, that's their business.

UserSince2005 28-12-2023 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11405025)
NGL, I'd probably think my death was imminent :laugh:

But yeah, if they want to moon everyone and kiss the floor, that's their business.

Weirdly I didn’t jump to that conclusion. I guess I’m just used to knowing how overt Muslims are with there beliefs now.
Also on both occasions the guys were young (not older than 30) and handsome. Not like this weirdos you see in London.

Redway 28-12-2023 09:51 AM

It is not my business. Nor do I have much time for stereotypes in general (well done, Ollie). Some prayers aren’t even discernible but if overt prayer is the way they (that individual Muslim) want it, that’s just how it is.

Cherie 28-12-2023 10:09 AM

If it were on a plane I would be just a tad concerned :laugh: All airports have multifaith prayer rooms so not sue why anyone would want to pray in the middle of a busy airport and not avail themselves of a bit of peace and quiet but if thats what they want to so, no issues, as long as praying in public is tolerated for all faiths of course...

Niamh. 28-12-2023 10:26 AM

I don't care

bots 28-12-2023 11:07 AM

if they are inconveniencing others in a public space then it shouldn't be allowed. If they are not, then they can do as they like

thesheriff443 28-12-2023 11:15 AM

I’d respect them for being devoted to their faith
Some pray five times a day .

rusticgal 28-12-2023 11:21 AM

It doesn't bother me....but there are certain places like the aisle of an Aircraft etc where maybe a bit more thought should be given.

Niamh. 28-12-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11405051)
It doesn't bother me....but there are certain places like the aisle of an Aircraft etc where maybe a bit more thought should be given.

Yes that's true

thesheriff443 28-12-2023 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11405051)
It doesn't bother me....but there are certain places like the aisle of an Aircraft etc where maybe a bit more thought should be given.

He was at the back of the plane, if he was causing a problem I’m sure the flight crew would of had a word with him.

Liam- 28-12-2023 11:55 AM

No more offensive than those bible preachers in the street

Zizu 28-12-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11405057)
No more offensive than those bible preachers in the street


Or those dreaded door knockers


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rusticgal 28-12-2023 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11405056)
He was at the back of the plane, if he was causing a problem I’m sure the flight crew would of had a word with him.


Its just insensitive imo...anywhere on the Aircraft in view of passengers who may be nervous of flying...may have some connection with people who died on 9/11 etc.... go to a quiet part of the Airport and pray before you board.

Alf 28-12-2023 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11405057)
No more offensive than those bible preachers in the street

So you are saying that it's offensive then?

rusticgal 28-12-2023 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11405057)
No more offensive than those bible preachers in the street


No one has said its 'Offensive' just inappropriate :shrug:

thesheriff443 28-12-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11405066)
Its just insensitive imo...anywhere on the Aircraft in view of passengers who may be nervous of flying...may have some connection with people who died on 9/11 etc.... go to a quiet part of the Airport and pray before you board.

It’s not your own front room, it’s not the persons fault who is praying that someone else is a nervous flyer or has a 911 complex

UserSince2005 28-12-2023 02:27 PM

I took a photo of him because I thought it was bizarre
https://i.ibb.co/fqp5nd5/IMG-4817.png

rusticgal 28-12-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11405072)
It’s not your own front room, it’s not the persons fault who is praying that someone else is a nervous flyer or has a 911 complex


Its not his front room either....therefore you should be more thoughtful and considerate of others that's all....not much to ask.

Liam- 28-12-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11405071)
No one has said its 'Offensive' just inappropriate :shrug:

Alright then, no more ‘inappropriate’ than those bible preachers shouting in the street

Liam- 28-12-2023 02:34 PM

If an old white person started reciting the rosary on a plane, nobody would flinch, if one religion is allowed to be glorified in public, then all religions are

thesheriff443 28-12-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11405082)
Its not his front room either....therefore you should be more thoughtful and considerate of others that's all....not much to ask.

He is not hurting any one

user104658 28-12-2023 02:40 PM

I'm sure lots of people pray when they get on a flight, it's just not quite so overt. Assuming they're praying because they're planning a terrorist attack is perhaps an understandable human reaction - but it's still essentially racist.

FWIW of course as always I think it's all a bit silly, talking to imaginary people in the sky like it means something, BUT people are and should be free to do what they want so long as it isn't clearly harming or disrupting others.

Cherie 28-12-2023 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11405079)
I took a photo of him because I thought it was bizarre
https://i.ibb.co/fqp5nd5/IMG-4817.png

He was kinda out of the way tbf he wasn't blocking anyone going up or down

Cherie 28-12-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11405085)
If an old white person started reciting the rosary on a plane, nobody would flinch, if one religion is allowed to be glorified in public, then all religions are

why would they have to be old or white to recite the rosary, there are plenty young black catholics, not sure how many times you have been on a plane but I have never in all my years flying heard anyone black or white recite the rosary, and if they did they would be disturbing other passengers if they were doing it out loud don't you think, it would be no different than having to endure someones taste in music because they had no headphones so yes I think there would be flinching

Cherie 28-12-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11405089)
I'm sure lots of people pray when they get on a flight, it's just not quite so overt. Assuming they're praying because they're planning a terrorist attack is perhaps an understandable human reaction - but it's still essentially racist.

FWIW of course as always I think it's all a bit silly, talking to imaginary people in the sky like it means something, BUT people are and should be free to do what they want so long as it isn't clearly harming or disrupting others.

sigh no it is not... its no different to assuming you might be mugged or raped by a man while walking late at night, its just a human thought....

rusticgal 28-12-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11405084)
Alright then, no more ‘inappropriate’ than those bible preachers shouting in the street


...you mean the ones in an open street as opposed to an enclosed aircraft

rusticgal 28-12-2023 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11405086)
He is not hurting any one


Not physically...but no one said he was :shrug:

Liam- 28-12-2023 03:24 PM

This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism

Cherie 28-12-2023 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11405095)
This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism

Can you tell me when you have seen someone reciting the rosary in public anywhere...because I have never seen this ever :laugh: and if I did I would probably think they were a nut job....does that make me racist

rusticgal 28-12-2023 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11405095)
This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism


Why don't you grow up.....

Liam- 28-12-2023 04:20 PM

I’m not the one having a strop because people pray in public and I’m the atheist!

Beso 28-12-2023 05:40 PM

Spose it would give you something to gawp at during the delay.

bots 28-12-2023 07:58 PM

if anyone of any religion, knelt down in the aisle of a plane and started praying, i would like to know who wouldn't be unsettled. Do they know something that I don't would be the first thought in my head

thesheriff443 28-12-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11405160)
if anyone of any religion, knelt down in the aisle of a plane and started praying, i would like to know who wouldn't be unsettled. Do they know something that I don't would be the first thought in my head

He took his pray Matt to the back of the plane and was praying out of sight, he is not in the middle of the isle at all

A nervous flyer having a panic attack is more likely to cause harm and distress

Also it’s narrow minded thinking if he is Muslim he might be a bomber

bots 28-12-2023 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11405162)
He took his pray Matt to the back of the plane and was praying out of sight, he is not in the middle of the isle at all

A nervous flyer having a panic attack is more likely to cause harm and distress

Also it’s narrow minded thinking if he is Muslim he might be a bomber

it's not really narrow minded given historical hijacks

thesheriff443 28-12-2023 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11405163)
it's not really narrow minded given historical hijacks

Of course it is considering how millions of Muslim’s travel by plane each year without any problem

UserSince2005 28-12-2023 08:52 PM

Why do you need to pray in the middle of short haul flight though?
I get they need to pray 5 times a day but can it not be scheduled so you don’t have to pray in public?
I can’t say the guy made a huge scene because he didn’t
maybe I was only 1 of a hand full of people who actually noticed him praying
But the cabin crew definitely did feel awkward by it
I think only because maybe the emergency exit must be kept clear at all times

For me I think there is a time and place to express your religion and in confined public spaces it really isn’t it.

Cherie 28-12-2023 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11405170)
Why do you need to pray in the middle of short haul flight though?
I get they need to pray 5 times a day but can it not be scheduled so you don’t have to pray in public?
I can’t say the guy made a huge scene because he didn’t
maybe I was only 1 of a hand full of people who actually noticed him praying
But the cabin crew definitely did feel awkward by it
I think only because maybe the emergency exit must be kept clear at all times

For me I think there is a time and place to express your religion and in public spaces it really isn’t it.

I dont often agree with you but you are right, looks like an Easy Jet flight so not long haul, no need for this at all

@Redway where is the transphobia in the thread? who are the people you are referring to?

user104658 28-12-2023 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11405097)
Can you tell me when you have seen someone reciting the rosary in public anywhere...because I have never seen this ever :laugh: and if I did I would probably think they were a nut job....does that make me racist

Its not uncommon at all to see people praying before a plane takes off - a lot of people are very, very scared of flying. So to name one of the ONLY places I've seen people openly praying I public... .... ... On planes. Before take off, before landing, during heavy turbulence. Not uncommon at all.

And we'd think nothing of it if it was a priest in full dog collar get up.

But we get a bit antsy if it's a Muslim.

I didn't even say I wouldn't - like I said, given the association with plane hijacking, it's a normal enough reaction. However, it is racial profiling by definition, and thus racist.


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