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Beso 19-11-2024 09:13 AM

And they gave them 5 votes each time.
 
The LGBTQ viewers and their protest votes, just to make sure Ali won, BB decided to give everyone 5 fresh votes everytime someone was evicted in the last week and on closing evening. Talk about fixing things for one HM.:shrug:

Such an easy ride for the winner, with no pressure applied from big brother to Ali, they couldn't even bring themselves to show the house that she bare faced lied to Emma. Everyone elses words were used against them at some point in the house.:shrug:

Truly the worst winner since rachel rice, and a very similar one also. A winner chosen for what she stands for and not for what she shown us of herself and her personality. In fact apart from her brother killing himself and her being a lesbian with ADHD we didnt really find out anything about Ali's true personality..

Notice how she used her adhd as an excuse for struggling in the house, yet as so as those doors opened to release her she breezed the final night pressure cooker and all the pressure and strangeness of the interview process, and further tv appearances since...absolutely breezed them never once looking out her comfort zone.

Yeah, hoodwinked I would say, fooled by the worst winner since rachel rice.. a truly excellent series ruined by her win.

BBXX 19-11-2024 09:29 AM

Was it only the LGBT viewers who received an extra 5 votes? I wasn’t aware. Thats really shocking and truly a fix. We should speak to Ofcom about it.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Niamh. 19-11-2024 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11577093)
Was it only the LGBT viewers who received an extra 5 votes? I wasn’t aware. Thats really shocking and truly a fix. We should speak to Ofcom about it.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

:laugh:

Mystic Mock 19-11-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11577093)
Was it only the LGBT viewers who received an extra 5 votes? I wasn’t aware. Thats really shocking and truly a fix. We should speak to Ofcom about it.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

:joker:

Crimson Dynamo 19-11-2024 09:44 AM

sickening riggage

:bored:

thesheriff443 19-11-2024 09:45 AM

Don’t have a problem with Ali winning
I think giving people more votes was just to the show more credibility
Will made. A statement at one point about having a million votes
But if you are each person 5 votes that’s only 200 thousand people voting

GoldHeart 19-11-2024 10:20 AM

We all got the same amount of free votes , they've always frozen and then reopened the lines...for us to add another 5 free votes to the other registered votes we made.

But we all know people will have been using several devices & different SIM cards, giving themselves alot of extra votes to use. Not all of us can compete with that , I had 1 phone only & only voted that way.

Jordan. 19-11-2024 10:30 AM



Love it

UserSince2005 19-11-2024 10:32 AM

BGL, now we need a T.

Any famous Ts for Celeb BB?

BBXX 19-11-2024 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11577137)


Love it

If God hates gays… why do we always win?

Beso 19-11-2024 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11577141)
If God hates gays… why do we always win?

David's win was to apologise for creating him whilst pissed up on the holy water.

thesheriff443 19-11-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11577141)
If God hates gays… why do we always win?

You owe your existence to straight people but from reading your posts I think you might be via the turkey baster :joker:

Zizu 19-11-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11577104)
sickening riggage

:bored:


Is that you Donald ?


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Zizu 19-11-2024 01:19 PM

And they gave them 5 votes each time.
 
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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11577127)
We all got the same amount of free votes , they've always frozen and then reopened the lines...for us to add another 5 free votes to the other registered votes we made.

But we all know people will have been using several devices & different SIM cards, giving themselves alot of extra votes to use..


But all the housemates would have had fans doing that , surely.

I even heard there were some online groups who were voting for Marcello to win .. not because they liked or loved him .. simply because they hated the show and wanted to mess up the voting/results



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Swan 19-11-2024 01:23 PM

Like David, Jordon is alright in his own unique ish way, Ali was rubbish though.

millyrose 22-11-2024 06:35 AM

Loved Jordan voted for him. David was ok but didn't vote. Ali no voted for Emma.

Beso 22-11-2024 07:26 AM

In all honesty, it's rather sad that people allow their sexuality to define them. To define all their choices in life, to define who they must support on tv.

Tragically sad that if you are LGBT you must follow the latest thing like sheep.


Ali, you are the 1st lesbian to win BB...who bloody cares!!!

What's peoples sexuality got to do with anything, how di they know none of the other winners were lesbian!! What bloody business is it of theirs what sexuality you are!!

Theres more to life, and more to Ali than where she wants to poke her fingers, its just irrelevant to me what sexuality people are, not all of us feel the need to shout it from rooftops

Zizu 22-11-2024 08:27 AM

And they gave them 5 votes each time.
 
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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11578996)
In all honesty, it's rather sad that people allow their sexuality to define them. To define all their choices in life, to define who they must support on tv.

Tragically sad that if you are LGBT you must follow the latest thing like sheep.


Ali, you are the 1st lesbian to win BB...who bloody cares!!!

What's peoples sexuality got to do with anything, how di they know none of the other winners were lesbian!! What bloody business is it of theirs what sexuality you are!!

Theres more to life, and more to Ali than where she wants to poke her fingers, its just irrelevant to me what sexuality people are, not all of us feel the need to shout it from rooftops


Interesting take on things

I don’t really think that your own sexuality necessarily has to define you or your preferences / character at all

I am a happily married bloke who loves beautiful women .. I admit to having an eye for a pretty face like Ali or Maura ( thankfully they are both far, far more than just a pretty face .)

The wife doesn’t mind one iota and I obviously don’t mind her finding other guys attractive.. its just natural.

Now I supported/voted for Ali this time, Jordan last time and Brian Dowling years ago - they are probably my three favourite BB contestants as well

Favourite musicians include Pet Shop Boys , Years & Years , Olly Alexander, Will Young ( saw him LIVE at the M.E. N Arena ) and many more LGBT folk ..

So presumably LGBT folk enjoy like heterosexual people/musicians/housemates ..


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BBXX 22-11-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11578996)
In all honesty, it's rather sad that people allow their sexuality to define them. To define all their choices in life, to define who they must support on tv.

They don't, but it's nice to see representation and therefore nice to support if you wish to. It's a bit like supporting the Football club of where you're from, I guess.

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Tragically sad that if you are LGBT you must follow the latest thing like sheep.
We don't do that.

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Ali, you are the 1st lesbian to win BB...who bloody cares!!!

What's peoples sexuality got to do with anything, how di they know none of the other winners were lesbian!! What bloody business is it of theirs what sexuality you are!!

Theres more to life, and more to Ali than where she wants to poke her fingers,

Its just irrelevant to me what sexuality people are, not all of us feel the need to shout it from rooftops
That's really easy for people to say who have had their sexuality represented throughout their life as the norm.

As a boy, I knew I had an attraction to males from very early on. Yet that kind of relationship was never shown on TV or books and never talked about positively. I was young and the fact I only ever saw love between a men and a woman made me feel like I was broken.

When I finally started hearing more about 'being gay' was when I went to secondary school where gay was used as an insult only. The only out gay guy in my year was bullied for being so.

Rewind further back in history and it's even more horrifying.

I thinks straight people underestimate just how scary and isolating this can be for gay people growing up. It's not their fault they don't understand because they take it for granted, they're represented, understandably, at every turn. Straight people don't need to shout about their sexuality because it will affect nobody.

Gay people should celebrate representation on mainstream TV and in books and in movies because someone who is confused and scared will see it as normal and fine.

For many LGBT people, their sexuality is important because it's shaped them as a person throughout growing up. From hiding it, to accepting it, to coming out. From dealing with rejection from family or friends because you're gay and dealing with homophobia. From assessing a situation to know whether it's safe to say "boyfriend/husband" or whether you should just say "partner". Years of pretending only to not pretend anymore is a unique and defining experience and so often the relationship a gay person has with their sexuality is so intrinsic and personal in a way that it isn't when you are straight.

Beso 22-11-2024 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11579042)
They don't, but it's nice to see representation and therefore nice to support if you wish to. It's a bit like supporting the Football club of where you're from, I guess.



We don't do that.



That's really easy for people to say who have had their sexuality represented throughout their life as the norm.

As a boy, I knew I had an attraction to males from very early on. Yet that kind of relationship was never shown on TV or books and never talked about positively. I was young and the fact I only ever saw love between a men and a woman made me feel like I was broken.

When I finally started hearing more about 'being gay' was when I went to secondary school where gay was used as an insult only. The only out gay guy in my year was bullied for being so.

Rewind further back in history and it's even more horrifying.

I thinks straight people underestimate just how scary and isolating this can be for gay people growing up. It's not their fault they don't understand because they take it for granted, they're represented, understandably, at every turn. Straight people don't need to shout about their sexuality because it will affect nobody.

Gay people should celebrate representation on mainstream TV and in books and in movies because someone who is confused and scared will see it as normal and fine.

For many LGBT people, their sexuality is important because it's shaped them as a person throughout growing up. From hiding it, to accepting it, to coming out. From dealing with rejection from family or friends because you're gay and dealing with homophobia. From assessing a situation to know whether it's safe to say "boyfriend/husband" or whether you should just say "partner". Years of pretending only to not pretend anymore is a unique and defining experience and so often the relationship a gay person has with their sexuality is so intrinsic and personal in a way that it isn't when you are straight.



That's all very thought provoking, but we don't live in the past, we live in the here and now.

I don't buy this, "it's difficult speel"

Take Ali for instance, if took her 4 hours to say to 4 straight males on night one...."there will be lots of people watching who dont know I'm a lesbian"

Yeah, correct, and there will be lots watching who dont give 2 hoots what sexuality you are..BB isnt a knocking shop, it's a shop window for personalities, and sexuality isnt personality. So I dont know why she felt the need to share her sexuality to 4 strangers and millions watching


WELL I do know, but you know!

bots 22-11-2024 09:37 AM

Martha and Daze were both lesbians and they didn't win their votes

Cherie 22-11-2024 09:40 AM

I think it was the neurodiverse aspect that made her stand out rather than her being a lesbian

arista 22-11-2024 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11577141)
If God hates gays… why do we always win?


They Hide it.

thesheriff443 22-11-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bots (Post 11579056)
Martha and Daze were both lesbians and they didn't win their votes

I didn’t know that
Not that it would of changed anything for me

thesheriff443 22-11-2024 09:47 AM

I am slightly interested why the winning percentage was so high

BBXX 22-11-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11579048)
That's all very thought provoking, but we don't live in the past, we live in the here and now.

I don't buy this, "it's difficult speel"

Take Ali for instance, if took her 4 hours to say to 4 straight males on night one...."there will be lots of people watching who dont know I'm a lesbian"

Yeah, correct, and there will be lots watching who dont give 2 hoots what sexuality you are..BB isnt a knocking shop, it's a shop window for personalities, and sexuality isnt personality. So I dont know why she felt the need to share her sexuality to 4 strangers and millions watching


WELL I do know, but you know!

No, now is better but it's only better because of better representation and better discussion and more open discussion. It's only better because of the very things you're complaining about, really.

The more we talk about it now and continue to do so, the less we'll have to talk about in the future because one day it'll get to a point where it doesn't matter. But you only have to look at the comments Ali got regarding her sexuality, such as people questioning whether she was a lesbian and invalidating her own sexual identification, to say it isn't better.

Many of the straight HMs also spoke about their sexuality. Sure, they didn't say "I'm straight" but they spoke about their sexual experiences many times. It's all the same.

And as I mentioned, sexuality is not your personality, but when you've grown up gay - or in Ali's case, grown up hiding/ignoring you are gay - it often becomes a closer part of your identity to that of a straight person due to your experiences.

bots 22-11-2024 09:52 AM

i would say it was her red hair that made her stand out more than anything. It was the focus of half the season

Zizu 22-11-2024 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11579059)
I think it was the neurodiverse aspect that made her stand out rather than her being a lesbian


Agreed


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Zizu 22-11-2024 10:27 AM

And they gave them 5 votes each time.
 
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Beso 22-11-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11579107)
With Ali saying that there would be a lot of people who didn’t know she was lesbian it suggests that she was NOT going around telling everyone she was a lesbian


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Then why suddenly mention it in front of millions?

Zizu 22-11-2024 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11579048)
That's all very thought provoking, but we don't live in the past, we live in the here and now.

I don't buy this, "it's difficult speel"

Take Ali for instance, if took her 4 hours to say to 4 straight males on night one...."there will be lots of people watching who dont know I'm a lesbian"

Yeah, correct, and there will be lots watching who dont give 2 hoots what sexuality you are..BB isnt a knocking shop, it's a shop window for personalities, and sexuality isnt personality. So I dont know why she felt the need to share her sexuality to 4 strangers and millions watching


WELL I do know, but you know!



With Ali saying that there would be a lot of people who didn’t know she was lesbian it suggests that she was NOT going around telling everyone she was a lesbian

Thats the exact opposite of what you were accusing her of doing

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Beso 22-11-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11579111)
With Ali saying that there would be a lot of people who didn’t know she was lesbian it suggests that she was NOT going around telling everyone she was a lesbian

Thats the exact opposite of what you were accusing her of doing

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She meant viewers. Not family and friends.:joker:

Zizu 22-11-2024 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11579144)
She meant viewers. Not family and friends.:joker:


How would any viewers know she was a lesbian just by looking …your theory is completely flawed imho


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Beso 22-11-2024 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11579355)
How would any viewers know she was a lesbian just by looking …your theory is completely flawed imho


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That was her point.. she was saying there will be lots of people watching who dont know I'm a lesbian by looking at me...


She then put it out there that she was. For no apparent reason. I thought she was going to flash us her fanny and say look, I'm a woman as well.

Zizu 22-11-2024 09:47 PM

And they gave them 5 votes each time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11579425)
That was her point.. she was saying there will be lots of people watching who dont know I'm a lesbian by looking at me...


Not convinced

I think she was saying loads of people know her .. colleagues , neighbours etc but they would not know she was lesbian because she didn’t broadcast it

You think what you want of course


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BBXX 23-11-2024 05:15 AM

I also took it as there were loads of people who knew her who won’t know she’s a lesbian. She definitely wasn’t talking about the public because why would she?

Zizu 23-11-2024 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11579494)
I also took it as there were loads of people who knew her who won’t know she’s a lesbian. She definitely wasn’t talking about the public because why would she?


Exactly


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Beso 23-11-2024 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11579494)
I also took it as there were loads of people who knew her who won’t know she’s a lesbian. She definitely wasn’t talking about the public because why would she?

She was talking about the viewing public..

BBXX 23-11-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11579552)
She was talking about the viewing public..

No, she wasn’t. That doesn’t make sense. The conversation they were having was about her only recently coming out, and therefore there will be people watching (that know Ali personally) that won’t know she’s is a lesbian and dating a woman (because she’s only recently come out and has previously been in relationships with men)

https://www.tiktok.com/@bbuk/video/7423130915431255329

Why would she refer to the viewers? It goes without saying viewers wouldn’t know she’s gay because they don’t know her… You’ve perceived that conversation totally wrong.

Benjamin 23-11-2024 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11579073)
I am slightly interested why the winning percentage was so high

Because all of Ali’s group had been evicted by that point so most voted for her from when the votes opened. The other groups still had a few in each so votes kept getting split until near the end by which it was too late to even get close.


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