If Freddie survives again should he stop being...
 

Should he stop being so pleasant and try to reason with the morons and sheep in there!
He rightly pointed out that they were mainly sheep, but if he is still in now he should stand up to them, after all he knows he's liked!:thumbs:

he doesnt seem to know how to stand up to them, i suppose it must be difficult being in there surrounded by people who hate him. Maybe he should try to befriend rodrigo who seems to be the only person in there with a backbone. His friendship with siavash is one way, siavash is deluded and still wants to think he's part of the in-crowd and doesn't want to be seen ascociating with freddy.

i don't think freddie can change what we see of him is so natural that i think he gets offended by the sheeps patheticness :love:

i love the way freddie is he makes us laugh and what he says about the others is what we are all writing on this forum!!:cheer:

Freddie to win win win:cheer:

Very well said, Fruit_cake, I think the only real way forward for Freddie after friday's eviction is to tell them all he's taking no more crap from any of them!
If they continue he must either shout at them or laugh at them, but his attempt to talk reasonably with morons and sheep only alienates him further :elephant:

What confuses me though is that Freddie has been saved by the PUBLIC 3 times so far, the housemates know this so you'de think they'de be trying their best to be friends with Freddie, I know I would be.

I def wouldnt have treated him that way Kris (fud) did last night knowing he was a favourite with the public

Many in there have not got the brains to see the obvious and Freddie wont get upset and give them grief if he's up, so he is the very easy option, he has to toughen up!!!:thumbs:

Oh I totally agree and would love to see Freddie say it like it is to them, must be hard for him though, he probably feels quite isolated in a house (mostly) full of ignorance

I see saving Freddie as giving HMs a taste of their own medicine. If they want to nominate the same person every week, I say we save the same person every week. If they want a boring predictable show, they'll get it.

You can't blame Freddie for not being comfortable after being nominated 4 times in a row. Isn't that some kind of record?

Karly says he survives because of who he's up against. I think they all believe it too. It's easier than believing he could possibly be more popular with the public than they are. Whatever Freddie does he's going to be mainly unpopular with the HMs. If he turns nasty towards them instead of remaining the victim,I fear he may lose popularity with some of the public.

I agree with you and indeed everything people have said about this, but he is allowing himself to become the victim and needs not to be arrogant but just tell them he's going nowhere and they are all gutless to keep choosing him, he can't be alienated any more than he already is, make their lives in there unpleasant, he has no other choice!!
In my opinion lol:thumbs:

Your right in the main Fruit, Siavash is just being naive right now. He just isnt getting it, which is a worry to me.

Rodrigo tho? he dosent get it either. He is 90% in his mind in Lisa's camp and won't be any use to Freddie. He dosent get that will be gone the week after Siavash though.

While I loathe Lisa and her Nasties, I have to admit that she is playing really well, but that wouldnt have been possible if so many of the outsiders hadnt tried to go solo. I was hoping they would unify this week, but it hasnt happened and so they are dead men walking.

Too right Hell.

I dont like freddie so much after last night, couldnt he just wash 3 dishes.

I don't think it matters if he bothers to talk to them or not. Sooner or later he will stop being nominated for eviction when they're numbers fall

Well if he did try and stand up for himself it could go either way....

1. Next time hes up for eviction he would go because the public would hate the "New" Freddie.

2. Next time hes up for eviction he would stay because the public hate Lisas gang..


Haha, Its hard to imangine Freddie in a proper argument where hes shouting :bigsmile:

No, If that was me I would of told Kris to get the **** up and wash them himself.

Freddie washed the Dishes at Breakfast and Dryed them at Lunch, Kris hasnt done **** so Kris was basically sitting back showing off in front of Karly and forcing Freddie to do the Dishes.

i won't write siavash of yet for me, but i think he needs to up his game and get with the right people. He's too friendly with team shallow and too cold to freddy. i think that will cost him if he's not careful he will look as shallow as them.

He's a very distant third in my thinking behind fred and rodders!

You saw his reaction on Weds about being nominated, when they are told today i will be suprised if he stays calm, I would be playing pranks on them all week, like hiding their matresses, shouting in their ear while sleeping and shouting at them....just what they did to him.

maybe he would have if krass had asked him in a reasonable manner but krass told him to do them.
would you do something if some one you know did not like told you to do it?

I think Freddie would do better to keep his cool. I think that exposes their nastyness more. I think he is in danger of alienatiing some of his fans if he becaomes aggressive about it. Although if it was me i would be screaming in someones face by now if i was him and im not a confrontational person AT ALL

I don't like confrontation, but as Kris was determined to do it, and yes I agree he was showing off, if that had been me, I would have copied Cairon and stood over him and yelled 'Just who the hell do you think you are talking to mophead?'
freddie thinks that they are all decent people, they aren't and he must do something about it, before it goes any further, although I don't think he will!

I'd love to see him just tell Kris to ***** off and get over himself because he ain't that special and looks like someone beat him with a fugly stick

You honestly didnt see what was happening there?

Freddie DID say he would wash the dishes, that was never in dispute, but Kris had to impose his 'power' to force Freddie to do it NOW.

Why? What was so urgent about 3 dishes being washed? Freddie said he would do them when there was hot water. Thatw asnt good enough for Kris though eh? He had to push Fred's face in the dirt right?

It was blatant that Kris gave a gift (of a bit of caramel, that he was making really for him and karly) and then went on to use the high ground that gave him use that as a lever to abuse Freddy in public.

The man is just a egotistical sleaze.

As things stand there is no way that Rod and Freddy will be the last two standing imo.

Rod is probably the third in line to go now, after Siavash, and it will be Freddy he is up against.

It is hard to stand up to a group.

Team Lisa must be annihilated.:mad:

Why should Freddie change who he is as a person for those muppets?

If he changes people would start saying hes fake!

I think its boring for the same person to be up each week and to survive each week. Particularly when its a prat like Freddie.

I want Freddie out because at the moment his prescence is styfling the show. The HM's dont like him, I dont think they're bullying him I just think theyre frustrated by having to live with someone they all universally dislike. That cant be easy.

I'm glad we're finally seeing more than just the eccentric Freddie. I cringed last night when Freddie called Siavesh a fool for falling over during the race. No one else was throwing out insults so why did he feel the need to say that. I think we should put the HM's out of their misery and vote him out but that wont happen because Freddie is this years chosen one. How boring, how dull, how predictable:sad:

I know what you are saying, but he has to make himself less of a victim, toughen himself up a little!:thumbs:

I actually am coming round to your way of thinking, he was starting to annoy me last night, I would never speak to him like knobhead Kris did, but he can be a bit annoying!

Why? just because Kris said so?

Rodrigo doesnt have a backbone when it comes to Lisa. I dont think Rodrigo will give Freddie the time of day if he knows the majority of them hate Freddie.

Freddie should stay cool. He doesnt need to stoop to the nasties to be nasty just because he has to stand up to them. They havent the brains anyway, look at how Kris anwered back to Freddie... Im annoyed at you because I am. WTF! Freddie is doing fine, he isnt trying to blend in without being fake. He still says things diplomatically how he feels even if it might not be what the rest would like to hear. He still makes an effort to get across to whoever has been wrongly treated aka Angel. He still tries to see everyone's points of view and treats everyone the same. He knows his enemies yet he doesnt go all out to be confrontational. That is cool but takes steel of character. I admire him more for it.

Freddie to win!

Freddie already washed earlier in the day for all of them. They just wanted to find fault with Freddie. The same with the 3 tokens, the same when Freddie wanted to know why they pick on him to wash up when there are others.

Didnt you hear how they twisted how the whole thing actually happened? Karly doing heavy editing and making out that Freddie refused to do the dishes, which he didnt! Dogface saying he never saw him washing before which is a downright lie!

All the way through the sports day task Freddie was very quiet, compared with how he has been during the other tasks. I think he purposefully took a back seat and kept a low profile. I think the reason he cried out "Siavash you fool!" was more to do with adrenalin and excitement that had 'built up' rather than anything else!

sorry typo - he is trying to blend in without being fake.

I think I could learn to like Freddie if he was less "MMMMM, YAAH, I SEEEE" and more "**** Lisa".

Freddie is not perfect. Nobody is. BUT compared to the rest of those losers he is a BB God.

Siavash was a fool cutting corners and jumping to the other side. You automatically get disqualified even if you win. And I think minx both Siavash & Freddie were all caught up in the game to have done and said that.

lol he would drive me up the wall with that as well, but on the same point I love the way it does exactly the same thing to Lisa and her uglies.

I support Freddie purely because he is the best torture for them all.

It might be boring but its nothing to do with Freddie. It has to do with who nominated him! Freddie IS a victim. There IS 6 against 3! There is no way around it. To stand up to himself to people who talk nonsense and has the tiniest brains would be pointless! Devil he does, devil he doesnt.

He is doing fine in my eyes. He just has to keep the faith and stay true and cool!

I'd kinda like Lisa to stay.. at least she makes it interesting.
Instead we need all her gang of nobodys to go (Dogface, Kris etc) so she isn't the ruler anymore.
They're playing a good game by nominating all the characters who have the potential to win it, but most of them are too stupid to see that they're even doing it!
Put them all up for eviction and let us pick!