[HELLIWONTGO]

Should he stop being so pleasant and try to reason with the morons and sheep in there!
He rightly pointed out that they were mainly sheep, but if he is still in now he should stand up to them, after all he knows he's liked!

[fruit_cake]

he doesnt seem to know how to stand up to them, i suppose it must be difficult being in there surrounded by people who hate him. Maybe he should try to befriend rodrigo who seems to be the only person in there with a backbone. His friendship with siavash is one way, siavash is deluded and still wants to think he's part of the in-crowd and doesn't want to be seen ascociating with freddy.

[28thapril]

i don't think freddie can change what we see of him is so natural that i think he gets offended by the sheeps patheticness

i love the way freddie is he makes us laugh and what he says about the others is what we are all writing on this forum!!

Freddie to win win win

[HELLIWONTGO]

Very well said, Fruit_cake, I think the only real way forward for Freddie after friday's eviction is to tell them all he's taking no more crap from any of them!
If they continue he must either shout at them or laugh at them, but his attempt to talk reasonably with morons and sheep only alienates him further

[yvonnexx]

What confuses me though is that Freddie has been saved by the PUBLIC 3 times so far, the housemates know this so you'de think they'de be trying their best to be friends with Freddie, I know I would be.

I def wouldnt have treated him that way Kris (fud) did last night knowing he was a favourite with the public

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by yvonnexx
What confuses me though is that Freddie has been saved by the PUBLIC 3 times so far, the housemates know this so you'de think they'de be trying their best to be friends with Freddie, I know I would be.

I def wouldnt have treated him that way Kris (fud) did last night knowing he was a favourite with the public

Many in there have not got the brains to see the obvious and Freddie wont get upset and give them grief if he's up, so he is the very easy option, he has to toughen up!!!

[yvonnexx]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO

Many in there have not got the brains to see the obvious and Freddie wont get upset and give them grief if he's up, so he is the very easy option, he has to toughen up!!!

Oh I totally agree and would love to see Freddie say it like it is to them, must be hard for him though, he probably feels quite isolated in a house (mostly) full of ignorance

[stonedape]

I see saving Freddie as giving HMs a taste of their own medicine. If they want to nominate the same person every week, I say we save the same person every week. If they want a boring predictable show, they'll get it.

You can't blame Freddie for not being comfortable after being nominated 4 times in a row. Isn't that some kind of record?

[BJ]

Karly says he survives because of who he's up against. I think they all believe it too. It's easier than believing he could possibly be more popular with the public than they are. Whatever Freddie does he's going to be mainly unpopular with the HMs. If he turns nasty towards them instead of remaining the victim,I fear he may lose popularity with some of the public.

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by stonedape
I see saving Freddie as giving HMs a taste of their own medicine. If they want to nominate the same person every week, I say we save the same person every week. If they want a boring predictable show, they'll get it.

You can't blame Freddie for not being comfortable after being nominated 4 times in a row. Isn't that some kind of record?

I agree with you and indeed everything people have said about this, but he is allowing himself to become the victim and needs not to be arrogant but just tell them he's going nowhere and they are all gutless to keep choosing him, he can't be alienated any more than he already is, make their lives in there unpleasant, he has no other choice!!
In my opinion lol

[vesavius]

Originally posted by fruit_cake
he doesnt seem to know how to stand up to them, i suppose it must be difficult being in there surrounded by people who hate him. Maybe he should try to befriend rodrigo who seems to be the only person in there with a backbone. His friendship with siavash is one way, siavash is deluded and still wants to think he's part of the in-crowd and doesn't want to be seen ascociating with freddy.

Your right in the main Fruit, Siavash is just being naive right now. He just isnt getting it, which is a worry to me.

Rodrigo tho? he dosent get it either. He is 90% in his mind in Lisa's camp and won't be any use to Freddie. He dosent get that will be gone the week after Siavash though.

While I loathe Lisa and her Nasties, I have to admit that she is playing really well, but that wouldnt have been possible if so many of the outsiders hadnt tried to go solo. I was hoping they would unify this week, but it hasnt happened and so they are dead men walking.

[vesavius]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO

I agree with you and indeed everything people have said about this, but he is allowing himself to become the victim and needs not to be arrogant but just tell them he's going nowhere and they are all gutless to keep choosing him, he can't be alienated any more than he already is, make their lives in there unpleasant, he has no other choice!!
In my opinion lol

Too right Hell.

[fuzzylovin]

I dont like freddie so much after last night, couldnt he just wash 3 dishes.

[Marc]

I don't think it matters if he bothers to talk to them or not. Sooner or later he will stop being nominated for eviction when they're numbers fall

[Patrick]

Well if he did try and stand up for himself it could go either way....

1. Next time hes up for eviction he would go because the public would hate the "New" Freddie.

2. Next time hes up for eviction he would stay because the public hate Lisas gang..


Haha, Its hard to imangine Freddie in a proper argument where hes shouting

[Patrick]

Originally posted by fuzzylovin
I dont like freddie so much after last night, couldnt he just wash 3 dishes.

No, If that was me I would of told Kris to get the **** up and wash them himself.

Freddie washed the Dishes at Breakfast and Dryed them at Lunch, Kris hasnt done **** so Kris was basically sitting back showing off in front of Karly and forcing Freddie to do the Dishes.

[fruit_cake]

Originally posted by vesavius

Your right in the main Fruit, Siavash is just being naive right now. He just isnt getting it, which is a worry to me.

Rodrigo tho? he dosent get it either. He is 90% in his mind in Lisa's camp and won't be any use to Freddie. He dosent get that will be gone the week after Siavash though.

While I loathe Lisa and her Nasties, I have to admit that she is playing really well, but that wouldnt have been possible if so many of the outsiders hadnt tried to go solo. I was hoping they would unify this week, but it hasnt happened and so they are dead men walking.

i won't write siavash of yet for me, but i think he needs to up his game and get with the right people. He's too friendly with team shallow and too cold to freddy. i think that will cost him if he's not careful he will look as shallow as them.

He's a very distant third in my thinking behind fred and rodders!

[*mazedsalv**]

You saw his reaction on Weds about being nominated, when they are told today i will be suprised if he stays calm, I would be playing pranks on them all week, like hiding their matresses, shouting in their ear while sleeping and shouting at them....just what they did to him.

[jtalh2003]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
I don't think it matters if he bothers to talk to them or not. Sooner or later he will stop being nominated for eviction when they're numbers fall

maybe he would have if krass had asked him in a reasonable manner but krass told him to do them.
would you do something if some one you know did not like told you to do it?

[MargeryFan]

I think Freddie would do better to keep his cool. I think that exposes their nastyness more. I think he is in danger of alienatiing some of his fans if he becaomes aggressive about it. Although if it was me i would be screaming in someones face by now if i was him and im not a confrontational person AT ALL

[HELLIWONTGO]

I don't like confrontation, but as Kris was determined to do it, and yes I agree he was showing off, if that had been me, I would have copied Cairon and stood over him and yelled 'Just who the hell do you think you are talking to mophead?'
freddie thinks that they are all decent people, they aren't and he must do something about it, before it goes any further, although I don't think he will!

[Adamw92]

I'd love to see him just tell Kris to ***** off and get over himself because he ain't that special and looks like someone beat him with a fugly stick

[vesavius]

Originally posted by fuzzylovin
I dont like freddie so much after last night, couldnt he just wash 3 dishes.

You honestly didnt see what was happening there?

Freddie DID say he would wash the dishes, that was never in dispute, but Kris had to impose his 'power' to force Freddie to do it NOW.

Why? What was so urgent about 3 dishes being washed? Freddie said he would do them when there was hot water. Thatw asnt good enough for Kris though eh? He had to push Fred's face in the dirt right?

It was blatant that Kris gave a gift (of a bit of caramel, that he was making really for him and karly) and then went on to use the high ground that gave him use that as a lever to abuse Freddy in public.

The man is just a egotistical sleaze.

[vesavius]

Originally posted by fruit_cake

i won't write siavash of yet for me, but i think he needs to up his game and get with the right people. He's too friendly with team shallow and too cold to freddy. i think that will cost him if he's not careful he will look as shallow as them.

He's a very distant third in my thinking behind fred and rodders!

As things stand there is no way that Rod and Freddy will be the last two standing imo.

Rod is probably the third in line to go now, after Siavash, and it will be Freddy he is up against.

[karezza]

It is hard to stand up to a group.

Team Lisa must be annihilated.