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Taijitu 19-08-2009 10:10 AM

Is Marcus a lot more intelligent then most give him credit for?
 
Can anyone confirm if this contains an exact qoute from Marcus?


Quote:

Marcus: You can be identical yourself, but not be yourself
Tom: What? That doesn't make any sense Marcus
If so then given the gramma used (not saying "identical to") it would mean expressing or resulting in identity.

The sentence could then be seen as meaning you could express an identity of yourself (one for show you most commonly use in a fake environment), but not be yourself (since the identity you are expressing isnt your true nature but mearly a facet of it used to diguise the whole).

I didnt see the conversation so dont know the context but it would be ironic if people who call Marcus crude (i.e. lacking in intellectual subtlety) do so partially because he is actually too subtle for them to understand.

Just a though.:bigsmile:

InOne 19-08-2009 10:12 AM

He is pretty intelligent, he just overshadows it with the way he acts. He is clearly quite switched on.

IsleOfWeather 19-08-2009 10:16 AM

gramma?



:laugh2:

BB22 19-08-2009 10:18 AM

He is obviously not educated to a particularly high level but he is definitely much more intelligent than many people on this forum give him credit for. Also, many of his observations during the course of this series, both about events in the House and the way people are perceived on the outside, have been very astute.

Zien 19-08-2009 10:18 AM

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

BB22 19-08-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Zien
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, admittedly, thinking that Charlie is his friend is kind of dumb. :whistle:

karezza 19-08-2009 10:20 AM

Marcus last night - "Conflict of the human heart is to do what is wrong when you know what's right."

Legendary Big Brother philosopher Marcus the Wise.:love:

ElProximo 19-08-2009 10:40 AM

He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.

karezza 19-08-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.
He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.

ElProximo 19-08-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by karezza
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Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.
He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.
That isn't what Marcus says. He credits Lisa with keen perception and consistency.
Oh oh.. now what do you do?

At least I can say he gets some obvious things right once in a while.
:joker:

Niamh. 19-08-2009 10:50 AM

I think he is pretty intelligent 90% of the time but then he says something completely stupid and spoils it!!

WOMBAI 19-08-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by karezza
Quote:

Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.
He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.
How could you possibly know what his IQ is! He probably doesn't even know that himself! Most people don't!

karezza 19-08-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
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Originally posted by karezza
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Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.
He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.
How could you possibly know what his IQ is! He probably doesn't even know that himself! Most people don't!
There IQs were measured by Big Brother.:eureka:

Taijitu 19-08-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
gramma?



:laugh2:
You are so mean!:tongue:

I was suggesting Marcus is bright not me!


P.S. you also overlooked I missed the t off of thought at the end.:bigsmile:

WOMBAI 19-08-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by karezza
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Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
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Originally posted by karezza
Quote:

Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.
He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.
How could you possibly know what his IQ is! He probably doesn't even know that himself! Most people don't!
There IQs were measured by Big Brother.:eureka:
Did bb tell us their IQs? If so - what is his then?

Taijitu 19-08-2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.
Yes indeed I think it can often be very easy for some people to have an exaggerated view of their own intelligence.

We are all only human after all not computers.

Niamh. 19-08-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
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Originally posted by karezza
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Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Quote:

Originally posted by karezza
Quote:

Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.
He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.
How could you possibly know what his IQ is! He probably doesn't even know that himself! Most people don't!
There IQs were measured by Big Brother.:eureka:
Did bb tell us their IQs? If so - what is his then?
122, Sophia had the highest and Freddie had 125 2nd highest

karezza 19-08-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Quote:

Originally posted by karezza
Quote:

Originally posted by VOICEOFREASON
Quote:

Originally posted by karezza
Quote:

Originally posted by ElProximo
He is average intelligence but wants to believe he is a genius.
This results in something called 'fukktard syndrome'.
He has a high IQ.
Lisa is a moron.
How could you possibly know what his IQ is! He probably doesn't even know that himself! Most people don't!
There IQs were measured by Big Brother.:eureka:
Did bb tell us their IQs? If so - what is his then?
Sophia was top, followed by Freddie, followed by Marcus. Saffia was bottom & Lisa second bottom. Saffia & Lisa are morons.

Niamh. 19-08-2009 10:58 AM

anyone know what Beas IQ was?

karezza 19-08-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Niamhxo
anyone know what Beas IQ was?
They haven't revealed the IQs of the newer housemates.

David's would be very low.:conf:

Zizz6 19-08-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by InOne
He is pretty intelligent, he just overshadows it with the way he acts. He is clearly quite switched on.
When Marcus was called into the diary room when he had an argument with Sree it became very obvious that he is not stupid, far from it.

Even in this very tense situation he defended himself very logically. With proper education he may have made a good lawyer perhaps.

Niamh. 19-08-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by karezza
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Originally posted by Niamhxo
anyone know what Beas IQ was?
They haven't revealed the IQs of the newer housemates.

David's would be very low.:conf:
Yeah, I d say so! Would be curious to know Beas, she reckons she's clever but I'm not so sure she quite as clever as she thinks!!

WOMBAI 19-08-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by BB22
He is obviously not educated to a particularly high level but he is definitely much more intelligent than many people on this forum give him credit for. Also, many of his observations during the course of this series, both about events in the House and the way people are perceived on the outside, have been very astute.
Shame he doesn't put that 'intelligence' to better use then!

Niamh. 19-08-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Zizz6
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Originally posted by InOne
He is pretty intelligent, he just overshadows it with the way he acts. He is clearly quite switched on.
When Marcus was called into the diary room when he had an argument with Sree it became very obvious that he is not stupid, far from it.

Even in this very tense situation he defended himself very logically. With proper education he may have made a good lawyer perhaps.
yeah, he's like "naturally clever" where as Beas cleverness was bought and paid for by mummy & daddy and it shows!!

bansheewails 19-08-2009 11:08 AM

At least Marcus tries to behave in an intelligent and logical way. Some of the rest of them seem to take pride in being stupid and not knowing anything. I hope my children never play the 'dumb' card for any reason.

:rolleyes:


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