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Crimson Dynamo 20-05-2011 04:11 PM

How can schools be allowed to teach that God is real?
 
And yet the law does not accept "God told me to do it" as a defense?


Is there anything in our law that would suggest that God is real? (not swearing on the Bible as that is tradition and you dont need to).

King Gizzard 20-05-2011 04:14 PM

I'm pretty sure they don't, they study all the different religions without saying which one is fact these days..

Crimson Dynamo 20-05-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate (Post 4253439)
I'm pretty sure they don't, they study all the different religions without saying which one is fact these days..

Catholic schools do and so do most faith schools

Lee. 20-05-2011 04:21 PM

I get hacked off with the nonsense they tell my daughter at school.

Ninastar 20-05-2011 04:25 PM

I kind of like it in younger schools because I think its quite refreshing as long as they aren't like preaching at them.

Marsh. 20-05-2011 04:40 PM

They don't. At least in the schools I went to (catholic high school).

We were taught more about foreign religions and how they originated and changed over the years as opposed to whether it's true or false. R.E. felt more like a culture class than religious preaching.

Chuck 20-05-2011 04:46 PM

I was never taught that God existed at school. :D

Tom4784 20-05-2011 04:47 PM

In my experience we were never preached at in school. I'm guessing at some faith schools it's inevitable due to the nature of them. I do disagree with the stories you hear from America of Creationism being taught as fact in lieu of Evolution which has a a lot more going for it really. I'm not saying that Creationism shouldn't be looked at in schools but keep it to RE really.

Lee. 20-05-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4253476)
They don't. At least in the schools I went to (catholic high school).

We were taught more about foreign religions and how they originated and changed over the years as opposed to whether it's true or false. R.E. felt more like a culture class than religious preaching.

My kids are 4 and 7 and get told about god. The school is just a bog standard state school.. I don't mind my children being taught about all different religions and the difference between them etc. I also think it's nice at Cristmas time to teach them why we celebrate Christmas and about Jesus/The Nativity Story.. but Reverend Thom who does the services at the school at Easter/Xmas etc takes it too far I think..

He was banging on last year about the crucifiction and the reserruction to a hall of 3-6 year olds! My daughter was all confused about people being able to come back to life... then this year they showed my daughter a film about the crucifiction! She was horrified!

MTVN 20-05-2011 04:50 PM

I dont think it really matters whether they do or dont, it doesnt suddenly mean "God told me to do it" is a valid defence in court

InOne 20-05-2011 04:51 PM

As long as they aren't brainwashing them totally it doesn't really matter. People have their own mind, they can decide for themselves.

Marsh. 20-05-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by happyland (Post 4253493)
My kids are 4 and 7 and get told about god. The school is just a bog standard state school.. I don't mind my children being taught about all different religions and the difference between them etc. I also think it's nice at Cristmas time to teach them why we celebrate Christmas and about Jesus/The Nativity Story.. but Reverend Thom who does the services at the school at Easter/Xmas etc takes it too far I think..

He was banging on last year about the crucifiction and the reserruction to a hall of 3-6 year olds! My daughter was all confused about people being able to come back to life... then this year they showed my daughter a film about the crucifiction! She was horrified!

Yeah, they can take it too far. But I don't think it's relegated to just religion wither. Schools are wanting the kids to grow up too fast I think, my auntie and a load of other parents went in complaining last week because their class of year 2's had started sex education classes. They'd been shown a video discussing "mummy and daddy's special hug" without even asking the parents consent or anything. My nan nearly choked when they came home talking about it.

Lee. 20-05-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4253505)
Yeah, they can take it too far. But I don't think it's relegated to just religion wither. Schools are wanting the kids to grow up too fast I think, my auntie and a load of other parents went in complaining last week because their class of year 2's had started sex education classes. They'd been shown a video discussing "mummy and daddy's special hug" without even asking the parents consent or anything. My nan nearly choked when they came home talking about it.

Bloody hell! Don't blame them for complaining!

Marsh. 20-05-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by happyland (Post 4253512)
Bloody hell! Don't blame them for complaining!

Too right. Not only are they too young to be learning about that anyway (apparently to try and reduce teen pregnancies) but they're at an impressionable age when they're copying everything going on around them.

Lee. 20-05-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4253518)
Too right. Not only are they too young to be learning about that anyway (apparently to try and reduce teen pregnancies) but they're at an impressionable age when they're copying everything going on around them.

Children should remain innocent for as long as possible! Childhood doesn't last long if you think about it and they certainly don't need to know about that sort of ****! :nono:

BB_Eye 20-05-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 4253434)
And yet the law does not accept "God told me to do it" as a defense?


Is there anything in our law that would suggest that God is real? (not swearing on the Bible as that is tradition and you dont need to).

It assumes we have free will.

Shaun 20-05-2011 05:16 PM

I went to a Church of England primary school and whilst religion came up relatively sparsely, we were still taught events such as the nativity scene, crucifiction and Moses' parting the sea as if they were historical fact. In fact I remember literally one lesson devoted to another religion - when it was Duvali, we made coconut cakes. Weren't taught a drop about it.

Marsh. 20-05-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 4253538)
I went to a Church of England primary school and whilst religion came up relatively sparsely, we were still taught events such as the nativity scene, crucifiction and Moses' parting the sea as if they were historical fact. In fact I remember literally one lesson devoted to another religion - when it was Duvali, we made coconut cakes. Weren't taught a drop about it.

Crucifixion (unless you were going for the "fiction" pun) is historical fact. As is the man named Jesus.

Obviously whether you believe he's the son of God is down to us to decide for ourselves but a lot of it is true (events wise) before it gets into prophecies. The Bible was written by humans.

Shaun 20-05-2011 05:29 PM

lmao oops. I'd claim it was a clever pun but no, typo.

Jords 20-05-2011 05:50 PM

The schools Ive been at never preached religion like it was fact, but just offered it as an idea on how the world was created and stories from the Bible that apparently took place.

I reckon only dedicated religious schools do, and this was just another opportuning for you to religion-hate LT, boooooooooring (as much as RE itself was!)

Jords 20-05-2011 05:50 PM

The schools Ive been at never preached religion like it was fact, but just offered it as an idea on how the world was created and stories from the Bible that apparently took place.

I reckon only dedicated religious schools do, and this was just another opportuning for you to religion-hate LT, boooooooooring (as much as RE itself was!)

keithafc 20-05-2011 09:29 PM

The lack of equality to spiritual teaching in schools compared to religion is not right.

Crimson Dynamo 21-05-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4253546)
Crucifixion (unless you were going for the "fiction" pun) is historical fact. As is the man named Jesus.

Obviously whether you believe he's the son of God is down to us to decide for ourselves but a lot of it is true (events wise) before it gets into prophecies. The Bible was written by humans.

It is not Historical fact as the only source we have for this is the bible and that is a highly revised and bias religious text - not the most reliable. :hugesmile:

Mystic Mock 21-05-2011 01:25 PM

The schools that I go to always preach about Islam and its annoying,I should be able to make my own mind up thank you very much.

Pyramid* 21-05-2011 01:42 PM

Santa isn't real but primary teachers get the kiddiewinkles to write letters to him. :eek:

then they break their little hearts later on......................:bawling:

Hang 'em I say!!! :D


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