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Crimson Dynamo · 20-05-2011, 04:11 PM

And yet the law does not accept "God told me to do it" as a defense?

Is there anything in our law that would suggest that God is real? (not swearing on the Bible as that is tradition and you dont need to).

King Gizzard · 20-05-2011, 04:14 PM

I'm pretty sure they don't, they study all the different religions without saying which one is fact these days..

Crimson Dynamo · 20-05-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate

I'm pretty sure they don't, they study all the different religions without saying which one is fact these days..

Catholic schools do and so do most faith schools

Lee. · 20-05-2011, 04:21 PM

I get hacked off with the nonsense they tell my daughter at school.

Ninastar · 20-05-2011, 04:25 PM

I kind of like it in younger schools because I think its quite refreshing as long as they aren't like preaching at them.

Marsh. · 20-05-2011, 04:40 PM

They don't. At least in the schools I went to (catholic high school).

We were taught more about foreign religions and how they originated and changed over the years as opposed to whether it's true or false. R.E. felt more like a culture class than religious preaching.

Chuck · 20-05-2011, 04:46 PM

I was never taught that God existed at school.

Tom4784 · 20-05-2011, 04:47 PM

In my experience we were never preached at in school. I'm guessing at some faith schools it's inevitable due to the nature of them. I do disagree with the stories you hear from America of Creationism being taught as fact in lieu of Evolution which has a a lot more going for it really. I'm not saying that Creationism shouldn't be looked at in schools but keep it to RE really.

Lee. · 20-05-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh

They don't. At least in the schools I went to (catholic high school).

We were taught more about foreign religions and how they originated and changed over the years as opposed to whether it's true or false. R.E. felt more like a culture class than religious preaching.

My kids are 4 and 7 and get told about god. The school is just a bog standard state school.. I don't mind my children being taught about all different religions and the difference between them etc. I also think it's nice at Cristmas time to teach them why we celebrate Christmas and about Jesus/The Nativity Story.. but Reverend Thom who does the services at the school at Easter/Xmas etc takes it too far I think..

He was banging on last year about the crucifiction and the reserruction to a hall of 3-6 year olds! My daughter was all confused about people being able to come back to life... then this year they showed my daughter a film about the crucifiction! She was horrified!

MTVN · 20-05-2011, 04:50 PM

I dont think it really matters whether they do or dont, it doesnt suddenly mean "God told me to do it" is a valid defence in court

InOne · 20-05-2011, 04:51 PM

As long as they aren't brainwashing them totally it doesn't really matter. People have their own mind, they can decide for themselves.

Marsh. · 20-05-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by happyland

My kids are 4 and 7 and get told about god. The school is just a bog standard state school.. I don't mind my children being taught about all different religions and the difference between them etc. I also think it's nice at Cristmas time to teach them why we celebrate Christmas and about Jesus/The Nativity Story.. but Reverend Thom who does the services at the school at Easter/Xmas etc takes it too far I think..

He was banging on last year about the crucifiction and the reserruction to a hall of 3-6 year olds! My daughter was all confused about people being able to come back to life... then this year they showed my daughter a film about the crucifiction! She was horrified!

Yeah, they can take it too far. But I don't think it's relegated to just religion wither. Schools are wanting the kids to grow up too fast I think, my auntie and a load of other parents went in complaining last week because their class of year 2's had started sex education classes. They'd been shown a video discussing "mummy and daddy's special hug" without even asking the parents consent or anything. My nan nearly choked when they came home talking about it.

Lee. · 20-05-2011, 04:55 PM

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Yeah, they can take it too far. But I don't think it's relegated to just religion wither. Schools are wanting the kids to grow up too fast I think, my auntie and a load of other parents went in complaining last week because their class of year 2's had started sex education classes. They'd been shown a video discussing "mummy and daddy's special hug" without even asking the parents consent or anything. My nan nearly choked when they came home talking about it.

Bloody hell! Don't blame them for complaining!

Marsh. · 20-05-2011, 04:58 PM

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Bloody hell! Don't blame them for complaining!

Too right. Not only are they too young to be learning about that anyway (apparently to try and reduce teen pregnancies) but they're at an impressionable age when they're copying everything going on around them.

Lee. · 20-05-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh

Too right. Not only are they too young to be learning about that anyway (apparently to try and reduce teen pregnancies) but they're at an impressionable age when they're copying everything going on around them.

Children should remain innocent for as long as possible! Childhood doesn't last long if you think about it and they certainly don't need to know about that sort of ****!

BB_Eye · 20-05-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And yet the law does not accept "God told me to do it" as a defense?

Is there anything in our law that would suggest that God is real? (not swearing on the Bible as that is tradition and you dont need to).

It assumes we have free will.

Shaun · 20-05-2011, 05:16 PM

I went to a Church of England primary school and whilst religion came up relatively sparsely, we were still taught events such as the nativity scene, crucifiction and Moses' parting the sea as if they were historical fact. In fact I remember literally one lesson devoted to another religion - when it was Duvali, we made coconut cakes. Weren't taught a drop about it.

Marsh. · 20-05-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

I went to a Church of England primary school and whilst religion came up relatively sparsely, we were still taught events such as the nativity scene, crucifiction and Moses' parting the sea as if they were historical fact. In fact I remember literally one lesson devoted to another religion - when it was Duvali, we made coconut cakes. Weren't taught a drop about it.

Crucifixion (unless you were going for the "fiction" pun) is historical fact. As is the man named Jesus.

Obviously whether you believe he's the son of God is down to us to decide for ourselves but a lot of it is true (events wise) before it gets into prophecies. The Bible was written by humans.

Shaun · 20-05-2011, 05:29 PM

lmao oops. I'd claim it was a clever pun but no, typo.

Jords · 20-05-2011, 05:50 PM

The schools Ive been at never preached religion like it was fact, but just offered it as an idea on how the world was created and stories from the Bible that apparently took place.

I reckon only dedicated religious schools do, and this was just another opportuning for you to religion-hate LT, boooooooooring (as much as RE itself was!)

Jords · 20-05-2011, 05:50 PM

The schools Ive been at never preached religion like it was fact, but just offered it as an idea on how the world was created and stories from the Bible that apparently took place.

I reckon only dedicated religious schools do, and this was just another opportuning for you to religion-hate LT, boooooooooring (as much as RE itself was!)

keithafc · 20-05-2011, 09:29 PM

The lack of equality to spiritual teaching in schools compared to religion is not right.

Crimson Dynamo · 21-05-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh

Crucifixion (unless you were going for the "fiction" pun) is historical fact. As is the man named Jesus.

Obviously whether you believe he's the son of God is down to us to decide for ourselves but a lot of it is true (events wise) before it gets into prophecies. The Bible was written by humans.

It is not Historical fact as the only source we have for this is the bible and that is a highly revised and bias religious text - not the most reliable.