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arista 28-07-2011 06:38 PM

HS2 - UK New Railway Plan starts work this year 2017
 
HS2 UK New Railway has to be Built
Great Fight
Live on Ch4News just Now.


Our Railways were built 100 years ago or so.
1854 infact.

Even if you say the Cost is to much.

New Railways have to be built
there is no other way.

Video now gone

Report then the Fight in the Studio.
Ch4News 28/7/11.

arista 07-01-2012 01:09 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ja...-hs2-rail-link

http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16144165

HS2 looks like its going ahead.
Which makes sense
2026 is a date some have given for its completion

arista 10-01-2012 04:36 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ja...ct-green-light

Yes Now they go ahead.
Works to start after legal problems are dealt with.

fruit_cake 12-01-2012 10:35 AM

All that money for a half hour saving? It seems a little bit unreasonable to me.

arista 12-01-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4865305)
All that money for a half hour saving? It seems a little bit unreasonable to me.



Thats not the only reason
its the Future Railway Line
which is needed for our future



Both Conservative & Labour want this Future

Marc 12-01-2012 11:51 AM

It's such a good idea, it really is. But it's the classic argument of planning vs. environmental sensitivity.

I personally am pro the trainline

EDIT: You'd think they would search for an option that doesn't negatively impact people's properties eg. spliting that man's land in half

fruit_cake 12-01-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 4865325)
Thats not the only reason
its the Future Railway Line
which is needed for our future



Both Conservative & Labour want this Future

why is it needed? The railways are the biggest rip-off I've ever come across. I can't imagine this making them any cheaper. I wish there would be more investment in cleaner and more efficient cars personally.

Scarlett. 12-01-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 4865380)
why is it needed? The railways are the biggest rip-off I've ever come across. I can't imagine this making them any cheaper. I wish there would be more investment in cleaner and more efficient cars personally.

Faster freight? Less dependance on planes for cross country travel? UK railway lines are pathetically behind the times compared with the rest of the world.

Scarlett. 12-01-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc (Post 4865376)
It's such a good idea, it really is. But it's the classic argument of planning vs. environmental sensitivity.

I personally am pro the trainline

EDIT: You'd think they would search for an option that doesn't negatively impact people's properties eg. spliting that man's land in half

Similar issues will have existed when trains and paved roads arrived, its just one of them things

MTVN 12-01-2012 12:02 PM

I think it's a good idea, screw the environmentalists

Angus 12-01-2012 12:45 PM

No pain, no gain. Time is money. Is progress supposed to come to a shuddering halt and be thwarted because of its fleeting impact on a minority of people? Utilitarianism is the principle here - the greatest good for the greatest number.

fruit_cake 12-01-2012 12:54 PM

all of this to gain half an hour? it's madness imo

Scarlett. 12-01-2012 01:00 PM

30 minutes, for now, high speed rail is about futureproofing our rail system, our current lines have been around for over 100 years and are rather limiting us now

arista 19-01-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4865482)
30 minutes, for now, high speed rail is about futureproofing our rail system, our current lines have been around for over 100 years and are rather limiting us now


Yes New Railway is needed
Its our Future it will be done.

arista 28-01-2013 06:01 AM

We get to hear the Phase 2 route in the next hour
but nothing is being built , yet
thats wrong

http://news.sky.com/story/1043666/hs...spark-backlash


2026
is a long way away

Nedusa 28-01-2013 07:00 AM

This is long overdue, a much needed plan to modernise and update our railway infrastructure with new high speed lines. Because it requires new track it will not be popular with the environmentalists and the nimby's who will argue it it too expensive and unecessary. It will cause a lot of disruption to the countryside with many compulsory purchase orders of the land where the new tracks are going to be.

But remember this we had to go through this process back in the nineteenth century when the railways were first built and that must have been far more severe and disruptive , but that was needed for the country to industrialise. So how can anyone realistically argue against this much needed update to our railway infrastructure .

The new lines will not be ready until 2030 in any case and by then they will be absolutely vital without new lines like these we could end up as the laughing stock of Europe (in railway terms) ...assuming we are not that already !!!

Marc 28-01-2013 09:04 AM

Good good

arista 28-01-2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc (Post 5801640)
Good good


Thats Spirit Marc




Feel The Force

Shaun 28-01-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 4865387)
Similar issues will have existed when trains and paved roads arrived, its just one of them things

there wasn't quite the awareness of environmental damage when roads were built, was there? ;)

and lol @ "screw the environmentalists"... just...don't need to say anything really.

Jake. 28-01-2013 10:09 AM

Good stuff

Marc 28-01-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5801710)
there wasn't quite the awareness of environmental damage when roads were built, was there? ;)

and lol @ "screw the environmentalists"... just...don't need to say anything really.

but you just did :suspect:

Smithy 28-01-2013 12:46 PM

I was watching this on the news and thought it was a good idea but then it said it wouldn't be ready till 2033 :|

arista 28-01-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 5801957)
I was watching this on the news and thought it was a good idea but then it said it wouldn't be ready till 2033 :|


Maybe that including the Full Rail up north.


The 2026 is still there for Part 1

arista 09-09-2013 02:08 PM

The Labour Party
has just confirmed they will also go ahead with HS2.


Ref:Radio5

Nedusa 09-09-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 5801957)
I was watching this on the news and thought it was a good idea but then it said it wouldn't be ready till 2033 :|

How long does it take to lay a bit of freakin track....????


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