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Omah 31-03-2012 10:38 PM

Fuel panic may be good, said PM
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

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David Cameron told shocked Ministers ‘a bit of petrol panic may be no bad thing’ as he set out his determination to defeat the threatened strike by fuel-tanker drivers.

According to senior sources, his provocative remark was made at the end of a Cabinet meeting last Tuesday that was dominated by the dispute.

Mr Cameron told Ministers that he refused to be ‘held to ransom’ by Unite, the union leading the strike call.

In a powerful rallying cry to Ministers, Mr Cameron said it was vital to build up the nation’s ‘resilience’ to a walkout by tanker drivers. Measures included training more Army drivers to replace tanker drivers and finding other ways of keeping petrol stations open.

It was after hearing Mr Cameron’s powerful intervention that Cabinet Office Minister Francis Maude, one of his closest allies who is tasked with leading the contingency plans, issued his notorious call to the public to fill jerry cans with petrol as well as topping up their cars.
So ..... it's Cameron's ego at odds with the 'lower orders' - very Edwardian ..... :idc:

King Gizzard 31-03-2012 10:58 PM

Yes, because people needlessly wasting their hard earned money is always a good thing

Niall 31-03-2012 11:01 PM

****ing twat. Acting like Thatcher isn't going to solve this ****ing problem. :bored:

Livia 31-03-2012 11:41 PM

People pour scorn on the Daily Mail... unless it says something that supports their opinion. Then suddenly it becomes the quotable voice of truth.

Kizzy 31-03-2012 11:45 PM

It served a purpose....It covered his cash for access thing brilliantly!.....

Kizzy 31-03-2012 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5051483)
People pour scorn on the Daily Mail... unless it says something that supports their opinion. Then suddenly it becomes the quotable voice of truth.

No, it could never be described as that lol

Omah 01-04-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5051483)
People pour scorn on the Daily Mail... unless it says something that supports their opinion. Then suddenly it becomes the quotable voice of truth.

When did I "pour scorn on the Daily Mail" ?

:conf:

joeysteele 01-04-2012 12:15 AM

Governments are in a difficult situation when things like this occur, even 7 days notice didn't leave much time for people to have enough fuel they may need, David Cameron didn't know for sure that there would not be a strike before Easter or around Easter.

Francis Maude was the one who made the jerry can error.

Governments are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I don't blame David Cameron for this panic, he always said in every speech I have seen him make on this, just add that bit extra to your tanks,he never said rush out and clean the garages out.

There seems to be a lot of press criticising David Cameron for this that and the other lately, he has I think bad judgement but the Daily Mail, come on, it has to be on a par with the Sun for printing nonsense and near fiction.

Omah 01-04-2012 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5051561)
I don't blame David Cameron for this panic, he always said in every speech I have seen him make on this, just add that bit extra to your tanks,he never said rush out and clean the garages out.

So what's a "bit extra" ? A litre, 2 litres, 5, 10 ?

How very patronising of him, considering he leaves the purchase of petrol for his fleet of armour-plated Jaguars to his minions ..... :rolleyes:

Kizzy 01-04-2012 10:18 AM

Poor katie, fancy having him for a neighbour... I hope she has plenty of insurance in case his jerry cans explode....

joeysteele 01-04-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5051669)
So what's a "bit extra" ? A litre, 2 litres, 5, 10 ?

How very patronising of him, considering he leaves the purchase of petrol for his fleet of armour-plated Jaguars to his minions ..... :rolleyes:

Well a bit extra doesn't mean filling your tanks and more,much depends on the vehicle and what mileage you get. but to have put perhaps another 4 to 6 litres may have likely helped to get people though until the Government had its own prepared plans up and running to ensure garages got supplies in the event of a strike,
The PM was likely only meaning put a bit more fuel in your tank to see you through few days in the event of a strike, not plan for months without being able to get any fuel

I know its easy to knock PMs and Gordon Brown was also often hammered for things not always his fault but if the PM had said nothing and a strike had occurred, he would certainly now be getting hammered left,right and centre for not giving some guidance on the matter.

Kazanne 01-04-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by livia (Post 5051483)
people pour scorn on the daily mail... Unless it says something that supports their opinion. Then suddenly it becomes the quotable voice of truth.

this^

Kazanne 01-04-2012 10:45 AM

You gotta laugh at the Tory bashers,IF David cameron had said nothing and there was a strike and people had none they'de be blaming him for not warning them and while we are on the subject are you reading the news on Milliband? I guess not,or maybe it's not believable when it's him,lol.

Kazanne 01-04-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5051669)
So what's a "bit extra" ? A litre, 2 litres, 5, 10 ?

How very patronising of him, considering he leaves the purchase of petrol for his fleet of armour-plated Jaguars to his minions ..... :rolleyes:

There should be some 'green' icons for some posts,lol,they are not HIS cars,and they are only armour plated due to the several nutters about.unfortunately it is necessary.

Omah 01-04-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5052019)
There should be some 'green' icons for some posts,lol,they are not HIS cars,and they are only armour plated due to the several nutters about.unfortunately it is necessary.

But he doesn't have to worry about petrol or other trivialities, right ?

:laugh2:

Omah 01-04-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5051986)
Well a bit extra doesn't mean filling your tanks and more,much depends on the vehicle and what mileage you get. but to have put perhaps another 4 to 6 litres may have likely helped to get people though until the Government had its own prepared plans up and running to ensure garages got supplies in the event of a strike,

"4 to 6 litres" wouldn't last most commuters more than a couple of days and a business no more than an hour or two ..... ;)

Kazanne 01-04-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5052063)
But he doesn't have to worry about petrol or other trivialities, right ?

:laugh2:

He has many more things to worry about than we dont! example being that people aren't as sensible as he thought,when he tells them to add a little extra,the silly public go into panic mode and drain the pumps,good grief what is it that people dont understand about 'adding a little extra' maybe he should throw a sickie and go relax and watch a sports function!!!!

Kizzy 01-04-2012 12:22 PM

He knew exactly what he was doing kezanne....

joeysteele 01-04-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5052066)
"4 to 6 litres" wouldn't last most commuters more than a couple of days and a business no more than an hour or two ..... ;)

Exactly, that is what the PM meant, just top up enough to get you through the first days of any strike until the plans he had ready to use were actioned and supplies were going back to the garages, you have actually just made the PMs point.
Businesses would have got through with care longer than a few hours, the PM wants business to thrive not be hampered.

Kizzy 01-04-2012 12:56 PM

What did he mean by this then?..

David Cameron told shocked Ministers ‘a bit of petrol panic may be no bad thing’ as he set out his determination to defeat the threatened strike by fuel-tanker drivers.

No bad thing eh?....give the gullible public something else to rant about. Cash for access...oh thats old news...

arista 01-04-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5052131)
Exactly, that is what the PM meant, just top up enough to get you through the first days of any strike until the plans he had ready to use were actioned and supplies were going back to the garages, you have actually just made the PMs point.
Businesses would have got through with care longer than a few hours, the PM wants business to thrive not be hampered.


Bang On Right.


Feck The Unions

Kazanne 01-04-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5052125)
He knew exactly what he was doing kezanne....

He seems to be the only one that does,people just go crazy,they need to get the full picture before jumping to the wrong conclusions,all it took was common sense,I heard what he said ,seems pretty reasonable to me.

Kizzy 01-04-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5052172)
Bang On Right.


Feck The Unions

Your 'virtual' shouting doe's not make your point more valid arista....

Kizzy 01-04-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5052190)
He seems to be the only one that does,people just go crazy,they need to get the full picture before jumping to the wrong conclusions,all it took was common sense,I heard what he said ,seems pretty reasonable to me.

One day its 'no bad thing' and the next 'it must be avoided at all costs'...make your mind up dave!

Marc 01-04-2012 01:21 PM

This whole thing has been a mess, so many people wasting hours and hours trying to get petrol, for them not to strike.


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