[Omah]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

David Cameron told shocked Ministers ‘a bit of petrol panic may be no bad thing’ as he set out his determination to defeat the threatened strike by fuel-tanker drivers.

According to senior sources, his provocative remark was made at the end of a Cabinet meeting last Tuesday that was dominated by the dispute.

Mr Cameron told Ministers that he refused to be ‘held to ransom’ by Unite, the union leading the strike call.

In a powerful rallying cry to Ministers, Mr Cameron said it was vital to build up the nation’s ‘resilience’ to a walkout by tanker drivers. Measures included training more Army drivers to replace tanker drivers and finding other ways of keeping petrol stations open.

It was after hearing Mr Cameron’s powerful intervention that Cabinet Office Minister Francis Maude, one of his closest allies who is tasked with leading the contingency plans, issued his notorious call to the public to fill jerry cans with petrol as well as topping up their cars.

So ..... it's Cameron's ego at odds with the 'lower orders' - very Edwardian .....

[King Gizzard]

Yes, because people needlessly wasting their hard earned money is always a good thing

[Niall]

****ing twat. Acting like Thatcher isn't going to solve this ****ing problem.

[Livia]

People pour scorn on the Daily Mail... unless it says something that supports their opinion. Then suddenly it becomes the quotable voice of truth.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

People pour scorn on the Daily Mail... unless it says something that supports their opinion. Then suddenly it becomes the quotable voice of truth.

No, it could never be described as that lol

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Livia

People pour scorn on the Daily Mail... unless it says something that supports their opinion. Then suddenly it becomes the quotable voice of truth.

When did I "pour scorn on the Daily Mail" ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by livia

people pour scorn on the daily mail... Unless it says something that supports their opinion. Then suddenly it becomes the quotable voice of truth.

this^

[Kizzy]

It served a purpose....It covered his cash for access thing brilliantly!.....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kizzy

It served a purpose....It covered his cash for access thing brilliantly!.....

This bloke dont seem to go hungry either
Full list of Ed Miliband's meetings and dinners with donors and trade union general secretaries from 25 September 2010 to date:


•4 November 2010 – Nigel Doughty

•7 December 2010 - John Hannett (USDAW)

•15 December 2010 – Dave Prentis (Unison)

•5 January 2011 – Len McCluskey (UNITE)

•13 January 2011 – Paul Kenny (GMB)

•17 January 2011 – Lord Bhattacharyya

•2 February 2011 – Henry Tinsley (Betterworld Ltd)

•3 February 2011 – Lord Alan Sugar

•16 February 2011 – Kevin McGrath

•3 March 2011 – Len McCluskey (UNITE), Paul Kenny (GMB), Dave Prentis (Unison)

•9 March – Michael Leahy (Community)

•24 March 2011 – Nigel Doughty – Breakfast at Ed Miliband’s home

•29 March 2011 – Andrew Rosenfeld

•29 March 2011 – Graham Jones

•29 March 2011 – Lord Waheed Alli (BM Creative Management Ltd)

•4 April 2011 –John Hannett (USDAW), Michael Leahy (Community), Len McCluskey (UNITE), Paul Kenny

•(GMB), Gerry Doherty (TSSA), Billy Hayes (CWU)– Dinner, House of Commons

•26 April 2011 – Paul Kenny (GMB)

•16 May 2011 –Len McCluskey (UNITE)

•17 May 2011 – Ken Livingstone

•20 June 2011 – Len McCluskey (UNITE)

•27 June 2011 – John Hannett (USDAW)

•28 June 2011 – George Guy (UCATT)

•14 July 2011 – George Iacobescu (Canary Wharf plc)

•14 July 2011 – Ken Livingstone

•22 July 2011 – Andrew Rosenfeld

•22 July 2011 – Paul Kenny (GMB)

•25 July 2011 – Dave Prentis (Unison)

•2 September 2011 – Len McCluskey (UNITE)

•6 September 2011 – Nigel Doughty

•13 September 2011 – John Hannett (USDAW)

•20 September 2011 - Ken Livingstone

•27 October 2011 – Andrew Rosenfeld

•10 November 2011 – Len McCluskey (UNITE), Paul Kenny (GMB), Dave Prentis (UNISON)

•19 November 2011 – Nigel Doughty – Dinner at Ed Miliband’s house

•16 December 2011 – Andrew Rosenfeld

•20 January 2012 – Andrew Rosenfeld – Dinner at Ed Miliband’s home

•6 February 2012 – Len McCluskey (UNITE)

•9 February 2012 – Dr Assem Allam

•21 February 2012 – Dave Prentis (Unison)

•1 March 2012 – Andrew Rosenfeld

•7 March 2012 – Michael Leahy (Community)/John Hannett (USDAW)

•14 March 2012 – Billy Hayes (CWU)

•23 March 2012 - Ken Livingstone – Dinner at Ed Miliband’s home

[Omah]

Originally Posted by kazanne

This bloke dont seem to go hungry either
Full list of Ed Miliband's meetings and dinners with donors and trade union general secretaries from 25 September 2010 to date:

I hear that Cameron claims that, most nights, he just has a pasty and pint with the blokes from work .....

[joeysteele]

Governments are in a difficult situation when things like this occur, even 7 days notice didn't leave much time for people to have enough fuel they may need, David Cameron didn't know for sure that there would not be a strike before Easter or around Easter.

Francis Maude was the one who made the jerry can error.

Governments are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I don't blame David Cameron for this panic, he always said in every speech I have seen him make on this, just add that bit extra to your tanks,he never said rush out and clean the garages out.

There seems to be a lot of press criticising David Cameron for this that and the other lately, he has I think bad judgement but the Daily Mail, come on, it has to be on a par with the Sun for printing nonsense and near fiction.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't blame David Cameron for this panic, he always said in every speech I have seen him make on this, just add that bit extra to your tanks,he never said rush out and clean the garages out.

So what's a "bit extra" ? A litre, 2 litres, 5, 10 ?

How very patronising of him, considering he leaves the purchase of petrol for his fleet of armour-plated Jaguars to his minions .....

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Omah

So what's a "bit extra" ? A litre, 2 litres, 5, 10 ?

How very patronising of him, considering he leaves the purchase of petrol for his fleet of armour-plated Jaguars to his minions .....

Well a bit extra doesn't mean filling your tanks and more,much depends on the vehicle and what mileage you get. but to have put perhaps another 4 to 6 litres may have likely helped to get people though until the Government had its own prepared plans up and running to ensure garages got supplies in the event of a strike,
The PM was likely only meaning put a bit more fuel in your tank to see you through few days in the event of a strike, not plan for months without being able to get any fuel

I know its easy to knock PMs and Gordon Brown was also often hammered for things not always his fault but if the PM had said nothing and a strike had occurred, he would certainly now be getting hammered left,right and centre for not giving some guidance on the matter.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well a bit extra doesn't mean filling your tanks and more,much depends on the vehicle and what mileage you get. but to have put perhaps another 4 to 6 litres may have likely helped to get people though until the Government had its own prepared plans up and running to ensure garages got supplies in the event of a strike,

"4 to 6 litres" wouldn't last most commuters more than a couple of days and a business no more than an hour or two .....

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Omah

"4 to 6 litres" wouldn't last most commuters more than a couple of days and a business no more than an hour or two .....

Exactly, that is what the PM meant, just top up enough to get you through the first days of any strike until the plans he had ready to use were actioned and supplies were going back to the garages, you have actually just made the PMs point.
Businesses would have got through with care longer than a few hours, the PM wants business to thrive not be hampered.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Omah

So what's a "bit extra" ? A litre, 2 litres, 5, 10 ?

How very patronising of him, considering he leaves the purchase of petrol for his fleet of armour-plated Jaguars to his minions .....

There should be some 'green' icons for some posts,lol,they are not HIS cars,and they are only armour plated due to the several nutters about.unfortunately it is necessary.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by kazanne

There should be some 'green' icons for some posts,lol,they are not HIS cars,and they are only armour plated due to the several nutters about.unfortunately it is necessary.

But he doesn't have to worry about petrol or other trivialities, right ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Omah

But he doesn't have to worry about petrol or other trivialities, right ?

He has many more things to worry about than we dont! example being that people aren't as sensible as he thought,when he tells them to add a little extra,the silly public go into panic mode and drain the pumps,good grief what is it that people dont understand about 'adding a little extra' maybe he should throw a sickie and go relax and watch a sports function!!!!

[Kizzy]

Poor katie, fancy having him for a neighbour... I hope she has plenty of insurance in case his jerry cans explode....

[Kazanne]

You gotta laugh at the Tory bashers,IF David cameron had said nothing and there was a strike and people had none they'de be blaming him for not warning them and while we are on the subject are you reading the news on Milliband? I guess not,or maybe it's not believable when it's him,lol.

[Kizzy]

He knew exactly what he was doing kezanne....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kizzy

He knew exactly what he was doing kezanne....

He seems to be the only one that does,people just go crazy,they need to get the full picture before jumping to the wrong conclusions,all it took was common sense,I heard what he said ,seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

He seems to be the only one that does,people just go crazy,they need to get the full picture before jumping to the wrong conclusions,all it took was common sense,I heard what he said ,seems pretty reasonable to me.

One day its 'no bad thing' and the next 'it must be avoided at all costs'...make your mind up dave!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kizzy

He knew exactly what he was doing kezanne....

He seems to be the only one that does,people just go crazy,they need to get the full picture before jumping to the wrong conclusions,all it took was common sense,I heard what he said ,seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Kizzy]

What did he mean by this then?..

David Cameron told shocked Ministers ‘a bit of petrol panic may be no bad thing’ as he set out his determination to defeat the threatened strike by fuel-tanker drivers.

No bad thing eh?....give the gullible public something else to rant about. Cash for access...oh thats old news...