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arista 11-02-2013 03:19 PM

Social worker took the wrong child out of primary school in Hull
 
"Social worker took the wrong child
out of primary school for a supervised visit
with another child's father
Four-year-old Kenzie Joe Jubb, who
has no dealings with social services,
was removed from his nursery classroom
He was sent with a stranger to
‘see his father’ along with a
two-year-old girl they mistakenly thought
was his sister
Kenzie was driven to social services
offices before teachers realised the error


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2KbkgkiOq


Now, his parents are demanding a full
explanation as to why Kenzie,
who has no dealings with social services, was taken.
His father Alistair Jubb said: 'We are furious.
The school CCTV shows him being
away for 11 minutes, but 11 minutes
is a long time when your son is
with someone he doesn’t know.
'How did they get the wrong child?
We want to know exactly how this has happened."


What a Mess in Hull

Jesus. 11-02-2013 03:25 PM

It's an unfortunate mistake, but that's all it is. They provide this service up and down the country, and no one hears of the numerous visits a day that happen without incident.

Ammi 11-02-2013 03:27 PM

..I don't understand how the teachers took the wrong child out of class..that doesn't make any sense to me...

Jesus. 11-02-2013 03:29 PM

Maybe they didn't like him, and saw it as an opportunity for an 11 minute break?

arista 11-02-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5824874)
..I don't understand how the teachers took the wrong child out of class..that doesn't make any sense to me...


is it a color thing?


I am no racist

Kizzy 11-02-2013 03:31 PM

It was an error... nothing more. No harm came to the kid, kenzie is an unusual name though, odd to get it mixed up?

Ammi 11-02-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5824884)
is it a color thing?


I am no racist

..crikey Arista..I don't know how to reply to that...hmm, I just can't understand if the teachers introduced him to the social worker, which would be procedure...how they wouldn't know it was the wrong child...

MTVN 11-02-2013 03:37 PM

I'm sure they will later look back on this day and laugh

armand.kay 11-02-2013 03:39 PM

maybe its a supply teacher :shrug:.

Jesus. 11-02-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5824884)
is it a color thing?


I am no racist

http://videos.onesite.com/185616/cli...wny42njk21.jpg

Ammi 11-02-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 5824909)
maybe its a supply teacher :shrug:.

..LOL..probably not for much longer...

Alf 11-02-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5824848)
What a Mess in Hull

You cheeky Bast*rd

AnnieK 11-02-2013 03:53 PM

It was a mistake, fair enough....but had it been my child that had been removed from school without my consent or knowledge, I would be demanding some pretty fast answers as to how and why it could happen....also, the father who was expecting a visit must have been left disappointed too.

Ammi 11-02-2013 03:57 PM

..well, in my school it would be the custodial parent/foster parent who took the child and never the social worker, that wouldn't be allowed..but maybe things are done differently in larger town schools....

Jesus. 11-02-2013 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5824955)
..well, in my school it would be the custodial parent/foster parent who took the child and never the social worker, that wouldn't be allowed..but maybe things are done differently in larger town schools....

In some cases that isn't allowed, and visits can only take place if supervised. I used to provide staff to Social Services to cover these visits.

arista 11-02-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 5824933)
You cheeky Bast*rd


Watch your Local TV News

Ammi 11-02-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5824965)
In some cases that isn't allowed, and visits can only take place if supervised. I used to provide staff to Social Services to cover these visits.

..would they go to the school to collect the child themselves then JHC..?..I would have thought the child is brought to the visit by someone they're familiar with...that's what happens at our school anyway...

Jesus. 11-02-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5824974)
..would they go to the school to collect the child themselves then JHC..?..I would have thought the child is brought to the visit by someone they're familiar with...that's what happens at our school anyway...

It can't always work out like that, as what if the father was abusing the mother? She wouldn't want to take their child on a visit to see him. Not all families have extension of any kind, so she may be a single parent unable to get out of work, as another example.

They do have contact centres where they have childrens toys and games to facilitate family play, but I've had workers pick children up from schools and family residences. If a court has assigned the father supported visitation, then he has a right. SS just have to facilitate it in the best way they can.

Ninastar 11-02-2013 04:31 PM

This is really bad.. Maybe it's just because I work with kids only a little younger than this, but guests at work such as social workers are watched like hawks. They have to sign in and out and if they need to see a child, we need parental permission, the child has to recognise the person, etc. I don't understand why the kid didnt say anything.. He must have been upset for the parents to complain. I'd be really upset if my kid had been taken away from school with a stranger. Even if this person was a social worker, it could easily have not been. It may be just a simple mistake, but it's something that could easily have been prevented.

arista 11-02-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 5825004)
This is really bad.. Maybe it's just because I work with kids only a little younger than this, but guests at work such as social workers are watched like hawks. They have to sign in and out and if they need to see a child, we need parental permission, the child has to recognise the person, etc. I don't understand why the kid didnt say anything.. He must have been upset for the parents to complain. I'd be really upset if my kid had been taken away from school with a stranger. Even if this person was a social worker, it could easily have not been. It may be just a simple mistake, but it's something that could easily have been prevented.

Maybe he was Scared to much

Ammi 11-02-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5824993)
It can't always work out like that, as what if the father was abusing the mother? She wouldn't want to take their child on a visit to see him. Not all families have extension of any kind, so she may be a single parent unable to get out of work, as another example.

They do have contact centres where they have childrens toys and games to facilitate family play, but I've had workers pick children up from schools and family residences. If a court has assigned the father supported visitation, then he has a right. SS just have to facilitate it in the best way they can.

..I realise that, I meant the foster/custodial parent usually takes the child from the school and hands them to the social worker so they can take them to the contact centre...it makes it much less disruptive for the child as well, rather than have a stranger collect them from school, which is quite daunting anyway, especially if they're visiting an absent parent they may not know very well.....

lily. 11-02-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5824885)
It was an error... nothing more. No harm came to the kid, kenzie is an unusual name though, odd to get it mixed up?

There are about half a dozen Kenzie's in my kid's school. Must be popular in certain areas.

Ninastar 11-02-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5825020)
Maybe he was Scared to much

if that's the case, the teachers/staff/social worker should have noticed something.

Had the social worker never met the child before? They shouldn't have been allowed to take the child from school then. Unless it was a very serious case of course.


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