Hazel getting threats over cucumber gate...
 

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Absolutely disgusting. There's no way Hazel was at all in the wrong in the argument but it's to be expected that twitter trash will hate her for anything she does. I feel awful for her, it's ridiculous the amount of **** she gets.

i am loving this:dance:

People are so stupid :bored:

You must be foul/nasty to make death threats over such trivial circumstances, it really pisses me off.

Absolute fcking saddos with no lives. Think they are brave behind a keyboard but would probably wet themselves if actually confronted by Hazel or anybody else they threaten. The scourge of the internet.

It's disgusting..but I bet these people are the same ones that tarnished her with the evil brush when Daley was expelled, 100%.

I would say so, yes. Idiots.

This is just cruel. Do people forget that these are real people?

I think a lot of girls are jealous of Hazel to be honest. I don't think Gina is, but a lot of people watching certainly are and it's becoming obvious.

Kill the cucumber!!!!!!!!

...cucumber is such an odd word when you think about it.

Hazel the homewrecker has been exposed

However questionable or not her actions in the house may be, She in NO WAY deserves to have her life threatened.

I wouldn't be a huge fan. In fact I believe the whole incident with Daley was foreplay and she only felt 'threatened' after Daley had been called to the diary room.

She is still a human being and had no malicious intent towards anyone. She may have been selfish and stupid at times but so have the best of us.

Anyone who threatens someone's life is vile.

Daley is also vile.

..it is possible that in Daley's eyes he considered it 'foreplay' but to grab a person by the throat or lay your hands on them in an aggressive manner and indicate physical violence is completely unacceptable and something that he seriously needs to address because there can be a thin line between what you say and what you do......

My initial read of the situation when I watched it was, as Rylan said, that it was 'banter' or messing around where neither party thought it was serious and both parties felt safe. After Daley got ejected I watched the live feed start to finish and rewatched the main show where he puts his hand on her throat etc. I rewatched the minutes leading up to Daley going to the diary room 2 or 3 three times. I carefully looked for any sign that Hazel was in fact in any physical or pschological danger. I looked for any sign that Hazel FELT threatened by Daley's actions. I found NO indications of discomfort from Hazel until AFTER BB called Daley to the DR and she withdrew to a chair.


I know Daley had a bit of a temper and his actions would be very frightening to most people in the run up to his ejection. I know he was drunk and annoyed at Hazel when her chatting with Charlie kept him up. I also know Hazel was flirting with him outrageously and enjoying getting a reaction out of him. As I said my read was and still is that it was banter/flirting and no one was in any danger. I've been in a few fights and walked away from a TON of them. I know when someone is seriously threatening me and when it is just banter.

This wasn't 'just part of what they do' with respect to Daley. This was something that was actively sought for by Hazel i.e. for Daley to become sexually aggressive. IMHO she led the interaction from start to finish, right up until BB intervened.

I can accept that his behaviour was unaccpetable for general viewing and that it can cause great psychological harm to many viewers who find it very disturbing. If it was a xxx rated bondage video filmed with consenting adult performers it would still be unacceptable for a general audience but fine for the target audience.

Racism is wrong. It is a highly sensitive issue for any non-white person and generally cuts very deeply. I am frankly very confused by your bringing racism in as an example. I think I see what you are saying but I'm not sure
By 'wound up' I mean sexually excited. I honestly believe that was the only 'emotion' either of them were feeling. I am no legal expert but I believe the term 'violence' would require either actual bodily harm, intent to harm or psychological harm. A hand can be placed on anothers throat by say a doctor examining a wound or performing an operation and no one would bat an eyelid. It is the perception that Daley was angry or intended to intimidate(psychological harm) or physically harm Hazel that would make his actions illegal and/or immoral or unacceptable.

This has been a fascinating debate but I'm off to bed. Hope to catch up on it later today

Daley crossed a line that took away anything that may have been playful,fun or anything of no sinister nature once he started laying hands on Hazel and also verbally threatening her.
The words,''I'll finish you'' and 'I'll nut you'' said with drink too, made this a dangerous situation completely, outside the house if seen,he would have been arrested for assault so he got off lightly.
He got off even easier with the treatment he has got from bbbots with Emma while Emma has allowed character assassination of Hazel to go on night after night.
He got ejected and rightly from the show in my view.

It is really sad to see such awful people making these threats to a woman they don't know personally, people like that should never be allowed to even use the service in my view.
As to the cucumber incident, aiming anything at anyones eyes could be dangerous especially with drink invovled.
Hazel did say Charlie hod got aggressive but in the diary room to BB she also said there was nothing malicious in what Charlie had done.

Charlie was totally wrong to even mention Daley's name and without having had so much to drink likely would not have.
In both instances at the time they occurred Hazel did little wrong and the other person did great wrong,yet Hazel is the hate figure.
To me that is as ridiculous as it is unbelievable.

In both instances, had Daley really hurt Hazel or had Charlie damaged her eye,both would have pleaded defence of being under the influence of drink.
If you cannot hold your drink and it can make you act in the way these 2 have then there is a simple answer, stick to soft drinks and grow up.

..hmm, yeah, maybe the racist thing was a bad analogy...and I understand what you're trying to say but the difference here is that those two people involved didn't really know each other well enough to know or presume to understand any sexual preferences/banter etc...and as you say they had both been drinking and things can get a bit silly when that happens but even if as you said, Hazel was a willing participant at the beginning..thinking it was all fun and a game..?...she didn't know how far Daley would go...she would presume that she was 'playing a game' with someone who has average boundaries, which would be a safe assumption, especially with so many cameras etc..but Daley overstepped the mark considerably and became threatening and quite openly so by holding her throat and talking about nutting her..don't you think that the 'average' person would find that extremely intimidating and aggressive and if you felt it was in any way acceptable in 'foreplay' you would have to know someone extremely well to know that...it's particularly disturbing behaviour that he would do that in front of 'the nation' as well....

..but to me, she did look very concerned and frightened when she sat in the chair after he'd been called into the diary room..

...anyway yes...enjoy your sleep, it's been interesting hearing your views...

I feel really bad for Hazel, the hard time she is getting is ridiculous!

The moronic majority have made their minds up about Hazel and won't give her a chance. It's even her fault when she gets savagely poked in the eye with a cucumber.

I agree,this is getting really sad for her now. She flirted heavily with a guy who was off limits and who should have made sure he stayed off limits but 'he' didn't.

Absolutely a disgrace that she has all this nonsense being thrown at her and about her,even more a disgrace is it is being allowed to be thrown at her too.

A play fight is a play fight. It started off in good spirits. And let's face it Hazel was NOT injured by that bloomin' cucumber. Charlie was NOT being aggressive, she was responding to Hazel's persistant attempt to shove a cucumber into her mouth. What this incident will now do is throw a massive shadow over any further frolics in the house. Because if Hazel is there, she will be looking out for a means of getting air-time... and if she can't find it by sexual activity, she will find it by other means. In this case a massively over-exaggerated version of the truth. For God's sake it happened on camera... the CUCUMBER DID NOT GO IN HER EYE!!!!

..I wouldn't exactly call people moronic but I think there's very little objectivity when it comes to shows like this and people have very firm favourites/least favourites and I think it's fair to say that before cucumbergate, Hazel was far less popular or liked than Charlie, so she's coming from the weaker position...

It was aimed at her eye,that is the difference, had someone bumped into Charlie at that time it could have put Hazels eye out.
Even as child,I was always told in any playfighting or fun to 'never' aim anything at someones eyes.

Charlie had a fair bit to drink, Hazel had less, Charlie is extremely unpredictable with drink.
Charlie was wrong pure and simple and even more wrong to even ever mention Daley's name never mind try to compare the 2 situations.