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Josy 16-12-2014 01:34 PM

Anti-police posters appear outside Scotland Yard
 
http://i100.independent.co.uk/image/15360-15go6ls.jpg

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A series of anti-police and anti-consumerist posters have been spotted around London, with one even fixed behind the glass of the bus stop outside New Scotland Yard.

The posters, which are footed with the logo of the Metropolitan Police next to the words ‘totally racist’ have been seen occupying advertising space on bus stops around the capital while anti-consumerist messages have also been seen on the tube.

One such poster was even spotted outside the Met’s headquarters.

‘You’re 28 times more likely to be stopped and searched in London if you don’t have white skin, because we’re still really racist,’ says the poster.

Another reads: ‘We’ve pointlessly targeted cannabis users in Lewisham, while other people legally drink their drugs.’

A third, seen in North London, says: ‘We caused the 2011 riots by shooting dead an unarmed civilian and then lying about it. And we got away with it.’

Clear Channel, who own the advertising space, told i100.co.uk that the posters were not an official campaign and would be removed.

And anarchist magazine Strike! have since taken credit for the creation of messages, but told i100.co.uk that while they designed them, they did not put them up.

Many social media users have tweeted or re-tweeted the pictures, with some using the hashtag #ACAB, an acronym standing for ‘All Coppers Are Bastards’




Discuss?

Niamh. 16-12-2014 01:38 PM

I don't know, it's a tough one, on the one hand Police have a really hard job but on the other I firmly believe racial profiling goes on alot. The whole Cannabis users being targeted though is hardly the Polices fault, it's not down to them that cannabis is illegal and alcohol isn't :shrug:

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2014 02:03 PM

pathetic

all coppers are bastards?

disgusting idiots who put them up

Marsh. 16-12-2014 02:36 PM

Yeah, I don't think they realise that the police themselves don't actually make the laws in regards to that cannabis one.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2014 02:39 PM

"we caused the 2011 riots"


:facepalm:

Livia 16-12-2014 02:54 PM

One day the police will say, do you know what? F * * * you all, and walk away. Then we'll see who the bad guys really are.

I'm not suggesting there's not an element of racism in the police, but the only way to counter that is for more black and Asian people to join up. So why is that no happening? And who's fault is it that it's not happening?

Everyone seemingly has an axe of some kind to grind with the police. Until the day you really need them.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2014 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7421886)
One day the police will say, do you know what? F * * * you all, and walk away. Then we'll see who the bad guys really are.

I'm not suggesting there's not an element of racism in the police, but the only way to counter that is for more black and Asian people to join up. So why is that no happening? And who's fault is it that it's not happening?

Everyone seemingly has an axe of some kind to grind with the police. Until the day you really need them.

I wonder what would happen if i saw the perp putting up that poster and whilst he was doing it I drove off in his car

who would he call? :shrug:

Ninastar 16-12-2014 03:38 PM

christ i hope none of these people get mugged, raped, attacked, burgled etc... who will they call then? da awful horrid police?

GiRTh 16-12-2014 03:42 PM

Oh please. Its like people aren't allowed to protest in any way at all.

If the people putting up the signs ever needed the police no doubt they wouldn't trust them to do the job properly.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7421965)
Oh please. Its like people aren't allowed to protest in any way at all.

If the people putting up the signs ever needed the police no doubt they wouldn't trust them to do the job properly.

:joker:

the reaching...

GiRTh 16-12-2014 03:47 PM

Every time I've dealt with the police I've listened, I've heard them, I've watched them walk away thinking almost knowing that I'd never hear from them again and I was right every single time bar none.

People have the right to protest if they feel the police are not doing the job.

Nedusa 16-12-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~ (Post 7421815)

But for the purposes of balance you might say

You are 28 times more likely to be mugged/robbed/assaulted by a black man

But as we all know this is nonsense....... The number is far higher than that lol

Nedusa 16-12-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7422128)
But for the purposes of balance you might say

You are 28 times more likely to be mugged/robbed/assaulted by a black man

But as we all know this is nonsense....... The number is far higher than that lol

Before I start getting accused of racism that was my poor attempt at humour.

It has been a long day.




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GiRTh 16-12-2014 05:16 PM

Poor attempt indeed. Very poor.

Liam- 16-12-2014 05:23 PM

'The police started the 2011 riots' lmao

No, the polices' actions started a protest, the aggressive chavs who saw an opportunity for free things started the riots, misplaced blame at it's best right here.

Nedusa 16-12-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7422137)
Poor attempt indeed. Very poor.

I know, my apologies ... There is no humour in Racism

GiRTh 16-12-2014 05:35 PM

I'll accept the apology in the spirit that it was given.

MTVN 16-12-2014 05:58 PM

The police aren't above criticism, and imo institutional racism does remain as well as a worrying lack of accountability

That said I strongly disagree with the 'ACAB' sentiment and I'm sure that the vast majority of the rank and file are decent people genuinely committed to protecting our streets

Livia 16-12-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Geordie Jesus (Post 7422196)
The police aren't above criticism, and imo institutional racism does remain as well as a worrying lack of accountability

That said I strongly disagree with the 'ACAB' sentiment and I'm sure that the vast majority of the rank and file are decent people genuinely committed to protecting our streets

Agree with all this. And like I said in an earlier post, the only way to stop racism within the police is to have more black and Asian officers in the force. So... why aren't there? Change things from within.

GiRTh 16-12-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7422298)
Agree with all this. And like I said in an earlier post, the only way to stop racism within the police is to have more black and Asian officers in the force. So... why aren't there? Change things from within.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/j...olice-officers

Great quote from that article.

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Young minority officers find it tough to retain their enthusiasm in a difficult environment, Wilson says. "They may witness questionable language being directed at BAME suspects and young black and Asian men being stopped inappropriately, and all this adds to a negative experience. That is not helpful. These are the very people we want to come through the ranks."

Livia 16-12-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7422312)

Yeah, I understand that... but surely it would be helpful if they could raise the numbers within the police. A good friend of mine was in the CID for a long time, and he's gay. He put up with all kinds of comments and abuse but things are improving now as the generations go on. The same with female officers, they had to run the gauntlet of sexism for years.

I have never heard the police make a racist remark. But then, I probably wouldn't, would I.

GiRTh 16-12-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7422332)
Yeah, I understand that... but surely it would be helpful if they could raise the numbers within the police. A good friend of mine was in the CID for a long time, and he's gay. He put up with all kinds of comments and abuse but things are improving now as the generations go on. The same with female officers, they had to run the gauntlet of sexism for years.

I have never heard the police make a racist remark. But then, I probably wouldn't, would I.

It was a police officer who made that comment in Jan 2013, just over a year ago. Doesn't seem, to have gotten much better, does it?

Livia 16-12-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7422346)
It was a police officer who made that comment in Jan 2013, just over a year ago. Doesn't seem, to have gotten much better, does it?

It has changed though, don't you think? I mean, it's still appalling that racism and any other kind of ism is still alive and well in the Force, but when you see and read things about how it was back in the 70s and 80s, things are better, don't you think? Sadly enlightenment is just glacially slow.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7422312)

The quote is made by Paul Wilson

" He left in (the Police) 2010, the same year he reached a non-liablilty out-of-court settlement with Scotland Yard, having alleged that his career was held back. He alleged he was made a target after writing reports outlining accusations of racial bias in the Met."

he rose to Superintendent and was a founding member and former chairman of the Metropolitan Black Police Association. So he seemed to do well for himself.

Not sure i would trust what he has to say about it what with his massive Axe he has that needs sharpened

GiRTh 16-12-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge (Post 7422371)
The quote is made by Paul Wilson

" He left in (the Police) 2010, the same year he reached a non-liablilty out-of-court settlement with Scotland Yard, having alleged that his career was held back. He alleged he was made a target after writing reports outlining accusations of racial bias in the Met."

he rose to Superintendent and was a founding member and former chairman of the Metropolitan Black Police Association. So he seemed to do well for himself.

Not sure i would trust what he has to say about it what with his massive Axe he has that needs sharpened

Why would he lie? HE doenst seem to be particularly angry as you have said he's done well for himself.

So are you saying he's lying and young officers dont have to put with horrendous racist language directed at BAME suspects and they dont have to watch Asian and black men being stopped inappropriately. Why would make up stuff like that?


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