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JoshBB 12-09-2015 06:15 PM

Who do you want to see in the Shadow Cabinet?
 
From a perspective of who you'd like to see (for reasons of you liking them, not bc you want them to flop :laugh:)

I'd like to possibly see these people:

Cat Smith
Diane Abbott - welfare / education??
Dennis Skinner
Rushnaara Ali
Stella Creasy - culture maybe?
Kelvin Hopkins
Chuka Ummuna - business again possibly
Andy Burnham - would suit shadow transport minister

JoshBB 12-09-2015 06:16 PM

He's already said that Rosie Winterton will remain as Shadow Chief Whip, even tho I just googled and she slandered him tons during the election. Apparently calling to 'strengthen' opposition to him. He said he wouldn't use the Chief Whip much anyway though.

source - http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/nati...bench_options/

Pete. 12-09-2015 06:17 PM

Iconic Chukka and Diane please :love:

JoshBB 12-09-2015 06:22 PM

Liz Kendall would actually be quite good as Minister for Women & Equalities I think

When she told a journalist who asked about her weight to F off, I liked that.

Pete. 12-09-2015 06:28 PM

Yeah Liz is a good politician, I would love her to be involved somehow especially since her and Jeremy seemed not to take the leadership battle personally serious

JoshBB 12-09-2015 06:39 PM

Baroness Smith of Basildon (Angela Smith) - Leader of the Opposition in House of Lords
Lord Bassam of Brighton (Steve Bassam) - Opposition Chief Whip in House of Lords

both allowed to keep their jobs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8136683)
Yeah Liz is a good politician, I would love her to be involved somehow especially since her and Jeremy seemed not to take the leadership battle personally serious

I quite like her personality, despite her policies not being that great. She didn't get too involved with personal attacks like the other 2 did either.

Kizzy 12-09-2015 06:55 PM

Caroline Flint ... um, not sure who hasn't ruled themselves out will have a think, looking forward to hearing Joeys verdict :)

MTVN 12-09-2015 10:56 PM

No way would Liz or Chuka ever work for Corbyn

T* 12-09-2015 11:03 PM

i thought this was like a new bb twist omg

joeysteele 13-09-2015 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8136630)
From a perspective of who you'd like to see (for reasons of you liking them, not bc you want them to flop :laugh:)

I'd like to possibly see these people:

Cat Smith
Diane Abbott - welfare / education??
Dennis Skinner
Rushnaara Ali
Stella Creasy - culture maybe?
Kelvin Hopkins
Chuka Ummuna - business again possibly
Andy Burnham - would suit shadow transport minister

My hope is he leaves Andy in Health, Andy tears trips off Jeremy Hunt on this vital issue and Andy has a brilliant vision for the NHS too.

Chukka is going to the backbenches but really he has a wealth of others to choose cabinet postions for.
I'd like to see Stella Creasy get a good role and also Ben Bradshaw too,I hope he brings him to a more prominant role.
Chris Bryant I have a lot of time for as well.

It will be interesting.
I did hope Yvette Cooper would have gone for more unity and accepted some role too,I was shocked she has gone, she did say she wasn't the type to take her ball and run away,then it seems has.

Liz Kendall is no loss whatsoever to me either as to a shadow cabinet post or even from the Labour party itself.

arista 13-09-2015 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8136630)
From a perspective of who you'd like to see (for reasons of you liking them, not bc you want them to flop :laugh:)

I'd like to possibly see these people:

Cat Smith
Diane Abbott - welfare / education??
Dennis Skinner
Rushnaara Ali
Stella Creasy - culture maybe?
Kelvin Hopkins
Chuka Ummuna - business again possibly
Andy Burnham - would suit shadow transport minister

D.Abbott
She said she wants to stay on back bench.

Dennis is to Ill

Chucka and Andy have both run to back bench


Stella - Yes

arista 13-09-2015 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8136802)
Caroline Flint ... um, not sure who hasn't ruled themselves out will have a think, looking forward to hearing Joeys verdict :)



Yes Flint should be in

Kizzy 13-09-2015 01:36 PM

Lammy for housing?

'Mr Lammy: Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that another element of that foreign ownership is dirty money being trafficked through London from Russia and other places, with 3.7 square miles of London owned by offshore companies—we do not know whom—and that we need serious regulation?'

http://www.publications.parliament.u...50909h0001.htm

arista 13-09-2015 03:13 PM

Reports that John McDonald MP will be in his Cabinet

MTVN 13-09-2015 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8139110)
Reports that John McDonald MP will be in his Cabinet

He wants the shadow chancellor job but if Corbyn has any sense he won't give him it

This really is a turn up for the books. All these people who a few months ago were supposed to be the leading lights of Labour and their next great hope are suddenly relegated to the back benches. Corbyn has been leader for barely more than 24 hours and the party is falling apart already.

JoshBB 13-09-2015 09:45 PM

According to the wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offici...Shadow_Cabinet)

Some new appointments (and small information on them):

Shadow Foreign Secretary - Hilary Benn
Spoiler:

Son of Tony Benn. He is a vegetarian, doesn't drink alcohol.. is viewed mostly as a blairite despite his fathers' views. He had the 15th lowest expenses.


Shadow Home Secretary - Andy Burnham
Spoiler:

2nd in Labour Leadership contest. Viewed as an inbetween of socialism and blairism within the labour party. Has had several ministerial roles in the past including health, education, and culture.


Shadow Secretary of State for Justice & Shadow Lord Chancellor - The Lord Falconer of Thoroton
Spoiler:

Previously held his role as Secretary of State for Justice for just a month under Gordon Brown. Not a lot of info on him that I can find.


Shadow Secretary of State for Health - Heidi Alexander
Spoiler:

First elected in 2010, a relatively new MP. Before that she has been a councillor. She is also the chair of a pro-assisted dying group.


Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland - Vernon Croaker
Spoiler:

Member of the National Union of Teachers. Has held roles as Minister of State for Schools, and as Shadow Secretary of State for Defence.


Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland - Ian Murray
Spoiler:

Only scottish labour MP to remain, seems logical. He has been an MP since 1997.

JoshBB 13-09-2015 10:12 PM

Some more coming through:

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer - John McDonnell
Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills - Angela Eagle
Shadow Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government - Diane Abbott
Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury - Seema Malhotra
Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport - Michael Dugher

MTVN 13-09-2015 10:19 PM

McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor is a disaster. Even Corbyn's supporters were telling him not to appoint him to that role because he's too extreme

MTVN 13-09-2015 10:32 PM

For some insight on McDonnell, this is his view on the IRA:

Quote:

"It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...and.devolution

bots 13-09-2015 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 8140468)
For some insight on McDonnell, this is his view on the IRA:

It may seem perverse, but in a way I'm glad that the people with these attitudes are being brought to the fore. Previously they were hiding away, now we have a chance to remove them.

Will the labour party survive all this upheaval ? Only if it corrects itself sooner rather than later. If not there will be another party created and the party being led by Corbyn will become some left wing fringe thing consigned to the bin

arista 13-09-2015 11:54 PM

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-736x414.jpg

http://news.sky.com/story/1551925/co...shadow-cabinet

karezza 14-09-2015 11:50 AM

Fat, hypocritical racist Diane Abbott and anti-British, IRA supporter John McDonnell.

joeysteele 14-09-2015 12:31 PM

I have reservations as to the Shadow Chancellor, however I will judge him on what he says and does now, not what he has in the past.
After all look at the absolute shower we have as the current Chancellor and who outside of Labour, and in fact some in Labour, were relishing the thought of Ed Balls as Chancellor.
Overall, this is a pretty good set up so far, the previous lot all failed to get the votes needed for Labour in May.

If they desire to walk away just because a leadership result hasn't been to their liking, well loyalties to those they represent and the voters that need Labour, clearly mean a lot less than their own intentions.

Any new leader has the right to sweep clean the old guard especially if it has been a failing one too, some good appointments here really.
I am glad Andy Burnham has stuck to his word as to serving any leader that got elected.
Full credit to him I say and a very happy bye bye to the huffy ones.

bots 14-09-2015 01:10 PM

He would be mad not surround himself with "people he could do business with" and in a shadow cabinet, lack of experience isn't really an issue, i just think that the cabinet that finally gets picked will provide so much fuel for the press that they are doomed from day 1

JoshBB 14-09-2015 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 8141001)
Fat, hypocritical racist Diane Abbott and anti-British, IRA supporter John McDonnell.

She is not racist, and to call her fat is nasty and offensive. Neither is she anti-british.

On John McDonnell I cannot comment because I don't know who he is, but if Corbyn has appointed him then I doubt he is an IRA supporter.


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