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Brillopad 15-06-2017 09:48 PM

Youth turnout - how labourites fell for fake news
 
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite...ake-news/19958

Interesting and ironic. :joker:

user104658 15-06-2017 09:55 PM

"Trump! Brexit! Feminism! Free Speech!"

Wherever do you find such hard-hitting journalism, Brillo. I was shook to my core by this well-written, thoroughly researched piece, I have to say.

MTVN 15-06-2017 10:04 PM

tbf if that 59% figure is right then it's an increase from 44% which is still pretty significant and will have had a big impact

Scarlett. 15-06-2017 10:06 PM

Ah yeah, the amazing well known journalistic site of spiked-online.com

Vicky. 15-06-2017 10:36 PM

Oh. Turns out Labour didn't only get votes from stupid easily led students wanting free sweeties then. Thats a shock...not

Still, youth vote is up which is fantastic.

Kizzy 16-06-2017 03:05 AM

Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised? :nono:

Mystic Mock 16-06-2017 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9363917)
Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised? :nono:

We can't win with some of the Gen-X.

Brillopad 16-06-2017 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9363382)
"Trump! Brexit! Feminism! Free Speech!"

Wherever do you find such hard-hitting journalism, Brillo. I was shook to my core by this well-written, thoroughly researched piece, I have to say.

The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.

user104658 16-06-2017 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9363931)
The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.

I didn't say anything about the figures, I was just lamenting whichever horrible angry little trog wrote the article :joker:

Northern Monkey 16-06-2017 08:42 AM

Yeah that was apparently an inaccurate figure.The media jumped on it way too quick.

Tom4784 16-06-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9363917)
Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised? :nono:

Unless they vote in the way the old generations want them to! Democracy indeed.

smudgie 16-06-2017 09:14 AM

The more people voting the better, whoever it is and whoever it is for.

user104658 16-06-2017 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9363578)
Oh. Turns out Labour didn't only get votes from stupid easily led students wanting free sweeties then.

:joker: Not Brillo accidentally posting something that invalidates her own argument in every other thread.

the truth 16-06-2017 01:37 PM

They violently attack anyone who disagrees with them..bunch of violent radical hypocrites

Tregard 16-06-2017 01:57 PM

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I have no idea why the " youth" wants to stick hundreds of billions on top of the 17 thousand billion dept we already have. They are the ones who are going to have to pay it back. Presumably they will default and head in the same direction as utopian Venesuela. How progressive. Could it be that like all "youth" throughout history they are gullible, stupid and easily led by the nose to their doom. Of course the most pampered, fat, cushioned generation in world history wont be able to cope when it all goes pete tong.Dont support euthanasia as you will probably be signing your own death warrant.
Comment by an individual who was born 34 years old

Withano 16-06-2017 02:41 PM

I never actually thought the youth alone were going to swing the vote, there was a lot of parents, and a lot of elderly that seemed to be voting Labour too. Its great knowing the young vs old divide isnt as prominent as before. Im curious to see whether the parties will do more to bridge the education divide in the next election... that seemed to be the strongest predictor this time round.

Jack_ 16-06-2017 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9363931)
The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.

I pointed out that the youth turnout figures weren't as originally reported, and indeed not as crucial to Labour's unexpected performance in this post:

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...1&postcount=38

You spent several days denigrating the young for voting for 'freebies', then when I pointed out that actually according to YouGov's analysis, the majority of those under 50 voted for Labour, you argued that these figures couldn't possibly be correct and no one could know. And now you're using those very figures - that I've already drawn attention to and you've criticised - to accuse 'Labourites' (this isn't even a thing) of falling for 'fake news'. Make your mind up.

Again, does anyone on this forum read people's posts properly?

Crimson Dynamo 16-06-2017 03:03 PM

how does one account for Canterbury?

Jack_ 16-06-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9364531)
how does one account for Canterbury?

University city, voted to remain, solid ground game coupled with Tory complacency

MTVN 16-06-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9364511)
I never actually thought the youth alone were going to swing the vote, there was a lot of parents, and a lot of elderly that seemed to be voting Labour too. Its great knowing the young vs old divide isnt as prominent as before. Im curious to see whether the parties will do more to bridge the education divide in the next election... that seemed to be the strongest predictor this time round.

That isn't really the case though, Yougov's figures show that age is still very much the dividing factor and possible more now than before

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCNyMMAXcAEnoDb.jpg:large

user104658 16-06-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9364568)
That isn't really the case though, Yougov's figures show that age is still very much the dividing factor and possible more now than before

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCNyMMAXcAEnoDb.jpg:large

Yes but a crossover age of FORTY SEVEN hardly suggests its all "students looking for freebies"... Surely.

MTVN 16-06-2017 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9364593)
Yes but a crossover age of FORTY SEVEN hardly suggests its all "students looking for freebies"... Surely.

I don't think anyone would say it was all that but the scale of support for Labour amongst young voters clearly was a big factor in this election. Look how different it is to 2015

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.ne...08/est-age.png

Crimson Dynamo 16-06-2017 03:57 PM

youthful hope and the reality of age

its usually around 30 you realise that life is unfair, people are out for themselves, you have bills to pay and people rely on you, business runs the UK not governments and what you are now is probably what you will be

so you start to vote more for yourself rather than try to change what you cannot

lol

user104658 16-06-2017 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9364644)
youthful hope and the reality of age

its usually around 30 you realise that life is unfair, people are out for themselves, you have bills to pay and people rely on you, business runs the UK not governments and what you are now is probably what you will be

so you start to vote more for yourself rather than try to change what you cannot

lol

Are you calling Tory voters selfish LT? :nono:

Also any business owner who votes in favour of austerity is... Err... An idiot. Directly voting to take money out of the pockets of his customers. Utterly daft.

Kizzy 16-06-2017 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9364046)
Unless they vote in the way the old generations want them to! Democracy indeed.

Don't you bloody start! I'm an old generation remember :laugh:


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