[Brillopad]

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite...ake-news/19958

Interesting and ironic.

[user104658]

"Trump! Brexit! Feminism! Free Speech!"

Wherever do you find such hard-hitting journalism, Brillo. I was shook to my core by this well-written, thoroughly researched piece, I have to say.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Trump! Brexit! Feminism! Free Speech!"

Wherever do you find such hard-hitting journalism, Brillo. I was shook to my core by this well-written, thoroughly researched piece, I have to say.

The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.

I didn't say anything about the figures, I was just lamenting whichever horrible angry little trog wrote the article

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The figures came from YouGov - a site whose figures/charts have been quoted by many from the Labour camp on here. Either they are legitimate or they aren't - you can't just accept them when they suit.

I pointed out that the youth turnout figures weren't as originally reported, and indeed not as crucial to Labour's unexpected performance in this post:

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...1&postcount=38

You spent several days denigrating the young for voting for 'freebies', then when I pointed out that actually according to YouGov's analysis, the majority of those under 50 voted for Labour, you argued that these figures couldn't possibly be correct and no one could know. And now you're using those very figures - that I've already drawn attention to and you've criticised - to accuse 'Labourites' (this isn't even a thing) of falling for 'fake news'. Make your mind up.

Again, does anyone on this forum read people's posts properly?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Trump! Brexit! Feminism! Free Speech!"

Wherever do you find such hard-hitting journalism, Brillo. I was shook to my core by this well-written, thoroughly researched piece, I have to say.

Just because you don't approve of the source doesn't make it invalid. It is a perfectly reasonable source and it comes as no surprise that his points on the irony of Labourites becoming the victims of their own hype doesn't sit well with Labourites.

[MTVN]

tbf if that 59% figure is right then it's an increase from 44% which is still pretty significant and will have had a big impact

[Scarlett.]

Ah yeah, the amazing well known journalistic site of spiked-online.com

[Vicky.]

Oh. Turns out Labour didn't only get votes from stupid easily led students wanting free sweeties then. Thats a shock...not

Still, youth vote is up which is fantastic.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Oh. Turns out Labour didn't only get votes from stupid easily led students wanting free sweeties then.

Not Brillo accidentally posting something that invalidates her own argument in every other thread.

[Kizzy]

Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised?

We can't win with some of the Gen-X.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is this ageism? Switched on intelligent young adults contemplating their future in this country demonised?

Unless they vote in the way the old generations want them to! Democracy indeed.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Unless they vote in the way the old generations want them to! Democracy indeed.

Don't you bloody start! I'm an old generation remember

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Don't you bloody start! I'm an old generation remember

Aren't you a GenX Kizzy? We all know it's the Boomers we have to really watch out for .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Aren't you a GenX Kizzy? We all know it's the Boomers we have to really watch out for .

Ah right

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah that was apparently an inaccurate figure.The media jumped on it way too quick.

[smudgie]

The more people voting the better, whoever it is and whoever it is for.

[the truth]

They violently attack anyone who disagrees with them..bunch of violent radical hypocrites

[Tregard]

I have no idea why the " youth" wants to stick hundreds of billions on top of the 17 thousand billion dept we already have. They are the ones who are going to have to pay it back. Presumably they will default and head in the same direction as utopian Venesuela. How progressive. Could it be that like all "youth" throughout history they are gullible, stupid and easily led by the nose to their doom. Of course the most pampered, fat, cushioned generation in world history wont be able to cope when it all goes pete tong.Dont support euthanasia as you will probably be signing your own death warrant.

Comment by an individual who was born 34 years old

[Withano]

I never actually thought the youth alone were going to swing the vote, there was a lot of parents, and a lot of elderly that seemed to be voting Labour too. Its great knowing the young vs old divide isnt as prominent as before. Im curious to see whether the parties will do more to bridge the education divide in the next election... that seemed to be the strongest predictor this time round.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Withano

I never actually thought the youth alone were going to swing the vote, there was a lot of parents, and a lot of elderly that seemed to be voting Labour too. Its great knowing the young vs old divide isnt as prominent as before. Im curious to see whether the parties will do more to bridge the education divide in the next election... that seemed to be the strongest predictor this time round.

That isn't really the case though, Yougov's figures show that age is still very much the dividing factor and possible more now than before

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

That isn't really the case though, Yougov's figures show that age is still very much the dividing factor and possible more now than before

Yes but a crossover age of FORTY SEVEN hardly suggests its all "students looking for freebies"... Surely.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes but a crossover age of FORTY SEVEN hardly suggests its all "students looking for freebies"... Surely.

I don't think anyone would say it was all that but the scale of support for Labour amongst young voters clearly was a big factor in this election. Look how different it is to 2015

[James]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think anyone would say it was all that but the scale of support for Labour amongst young voters clearly was a big factor in this election. Look how different it is to 2015

That's got to be the effect of the EU referendum.

It's kind of ironic though the switch to Labour in the vote, in that Corbyn is a left-wing eurosceptic who is likely against free trade and single markets.